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Do You Ever Feel Bad for Killing Enemies in Games?
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Lately all the time (and pretty much only in one game)! I personally can't wait for games to advance to a place where almost every enemy can be defeated using non lethal means if you're capable enough.
The thing that made me realise this was playing red dead 2 recently. I'm a bad guy in that game and I'm shooting police and law men. I felt bad killing those people, I mean some of them are just down and out dudes trying to make a living and they got popped in the head by some crazy gunmen running through a town blasting people.
It's funny I never really thought about it until I played red dead. Run and gun all the time and not Care, I think it's got something to do with the realism and detail that games can capture these days.
At some point I believe society is going to have to re look at violence in games. It's always been ok because it's just a game, it's just ones and zeros when it comes down to it but as games become more and more real the violence becomes more and more confronting and more precisely simulated. I love Violence and gore in games, and maybe I'm just getting old and crotchety but I feel like MK11 takes things to far and I could not ever imagine myself saying something like that when I was younger.
The thing that made me realise this was playing red dead 2 recently. I'm a bad guy in that game and I'm shooting police and law men. I felt bad killing those people, I mean some of them are just down and out dudes trying to make a living and they got popped in the head by some crazy gunmen running through a town blasting people.
It's funny I never really thought about it until I played red dead. Run and gun all the time and not Care, I think it's got something to do with the realism and detail that games can capture these days.
At some point I believe society is going to have to re look at violence in games. It's always been ok because it's just a game, it's just ones and zeros when it comes down to it but as games become more and more real the violence becomes more and more confronting and more precisely simulated. I love Violence and gore in games, and maybe I'm just getting old and crotchety but I feel like MK11 takes things to far and I could not ever imagine myself saying something like that when I was younger.
In most games not really. The ones that have "developed" enemies are usually ones that let me hack around it by stealth/hacking/speechmaking.
The closest thing I can think of is that I used to feel bad for beating up R. Mika in Street Fighter V bc when you hit her she actively says "It hurts!"
But that went away bc she's an annoying character >:(
The closest thing I can think of is that I used to feel bad for beating up R. Mika in Street Fighter V bc when you hit her she actively says "It hurts!"
But that went away bc she's an annoying character >:(
I think the first game to make me care might be Watch Dogs Legion since every character you kill is a potential recruit.
No but I sometimes feel bad for killing real people in Destiny multiplayer.
First off I know how uniquely frustrating multiplayer against humans can be. Going back to street fighter 2. People would get so mad losing in the arcades in SF2. I remember once this big kid trying to intimidate me cus I kept beating him. The more he lost the harder he'd slam his fists on the machine in anger. And I lose plenty so I know....
So if I'm having a good game and just dominating people in Destiny crucible, sometimes I feel bad. Some of those people could even be handicapped (mentally or physically) in some way. You dont know. They could be having a really bad day, and you are just beating them down.
One time in D1 I was playing rumble and I kept matching up with this particular girl (she had mz in her GT). I'm not good, but I was dominating these lobbies. I was killing her over and over, directly in 1v1 after 1v1 (I wasn't seeking her out mind you, just happened that way). I started to feel weirdly bad about it. I googled her GT, found her twitter account, she was a middle aged lady who had quite a few tweets mixed in about being depressed, things like if I dont talk to you today hope you understand, etc (I know it was her because she had tweets about Destiny too).
Yeah, really weird huh? I FELT like this person I was shooting in the game was going through something, as i killed her over and over in game, and sure enough she was.
*shrug*. Well, nothing came of it beyond that. And I haven't felt those sad feelings for my opponents in a while...
First off I know how uniquely frustrating multiplayer against humans can be. Going back to street fighter 2. People would get so mad losing in the arcades in SF2. I remember once this big kid trying to intimidate me cus I kept beating him. The more he lost the harder he'd slam his fists on the machine in anger. And I lose plenty so I know....
So if I'm having a good game and just dominating people in Destiny crucible, sometimes I feel bad. Some of those people could even be handicapped (mentally or physically) in some way. You dont know. They could be having a really bad day, and you are just beating them down.
One time in D1 I was playing rumble and I kept matching up with this particular girl (she had mz in her GT). I'm not good, but I was dominating these lobbies. I was killing her over and over, directly in 1v1 after 1v1 (I wasn't seeking her out mind you, just happened that way). I started to feel weirdly bad about it. I googled her GT, found her twitter account, she was a middle aged lady who had quite a few tweets mixed in about being depressed, things like if I dont talk to you today hope you understand, etc (I know it was her because she had tweets about Destiny too).
Yeah, really weird huh? I FELT like this person I was shooting in the game was going through something, as i killed her over and over in game, and sure enough she was.
*shrug*. Well, nothing came of it beyond that. And I haven't felt those sad feelings for my opponents in a while...
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Started Paper Mario The Origami King tonight. I really didn't want to kill that first Goomba. He was very nice to me before he got transformed. :(
For some reason I always felt bad for the Blackwatch dudes in Prototype. You pick them up and they're like "You're just bringing my boot to ball level!" and I'm like gosh darn it.
It lasts for like a zeptosecond but still.
It lasts for like a zeptosecond but still.
Depends.
Deus Ex, after the early game plot-twist? HELL NO, anyone who gets in my way after that point is a vile piece of shit who knew what they signed up for and is paying the price for it. I play that shit in Sephiroth-Mode once I get the Dragon's Tooth. Paint the Room Red until every last Fascist is dead.
In other games, I'm largely just indifferent though, nothing personal.
...But god-damn do I revel in passing down the righteous law in Deus Ex. Some of the most genuinely fucking evil villains and henchmen in a game ever who are overdue to get what they deserve. I don't think I've seen a game since with villains that truly match the depths of depravity that Bob Page and Walton Simons go to. Not even the two prequels, but they do at least enhance things for the original game through what details they add.
Deus Ex, after the early game plot-twist? HELL NO, anyone who gets in my way after that point is a vile piece of shit who knew what they signed up for and is paying the price for it. I play that shit in Sephiroth-Mode once I get the Dragon's Tooth. Paint the Room Red until every last Fascist is dead.
In other games, I'm largely just indifferent though, nothing personal.
...But god-damn do I revel in passing down the righteous law in Deus Ex. Some of the most genuinely fucking evil villains and henchmen in a game ever who are overdue to get what they deserve. I don't think I've seen a game since with villains that truly match the depths of depravity that Bob Page and Walton Simons go to. Not even the two prequels, but they do at least enhance things for the original game through what details they add.
If they are bad guys I'll do it usually no problem. If they are innocents like random civilians or random non agressive wildlife I straight up refuse to do it unless I literally can't progress without it
MGSV mostly. In games that feature tons of nonlethal options and don't present adversaries as cartoonish baddies it generally feels a bit better to do nonlethal.
Nah video games have conditioned me to not feel anything. lol Though, i don't go out of my way to kill animals or regular civilians unless they get in my way.
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No and not animals either.
I abhor violence in real life but these are and never have been real
The sort of person who feels bad killing polygons is the same person who hates an actor because they played an evil character in a film.
I abhor violence in real life but these are and never have been real
The sort of person who feels bad killing polygons is the same person who hates an actor because they played an evil character in a film.
Video games condition you to not feel bad by presenting morally repugnant enemies.
Even games attempting to deconstruct violence like TLOU2 still provide you with relatively villanous enemies (zombies, scars and WLF) so you don't feel too bad.
And also people tend to lose empathy when the enemy attacks them. I felt really bad the first time I killed a dog in TLOU2. Or its owner. Really bad. Then I stopped feeling bad the first time one killed me. From that point on the four legged little fuckers always died first.
Even games attempting to deconstruct violence like TLOU2 still provide you with relatively villanous enemies (zombies, scars and WLF) so you don't feel too bad.
And also people tend to lose empathy when the enemy attacks them. I felt really bad the first time I killed a dog in TLOU2. Or its owner. Really bad. Then I stopped feeling bad the first time one killed me. From that point on the four legged little fuckers always died first.
the only enemy i ever felt a bit bad about killing was Sif in Dark Souls; most bosses you attack are bearly phased and then when they reach zero health the just die and dissolve. With Sif you can clearly see him acting more and more injured as the battle goes on until he died...I was just like "come on man, just let me pass!"
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You know what, I should put in my copy of GTAV tomorrow and go on a spree.
Nope.
Unless the game's story intends you to feel bad, I guess.
All the time honestly.
If they're animals, if they're docile monsters, if they're cute weak monsters.
It took me weeks to kill a turtle for the shell in the forest.
Heck, I even feel bad for attacking Tea's Shining Friendship in Duel Links.
I rarely feel bad about killing people in video games, though I would probably feel bad if you had to kill a child in any game.
If they're animals, if they're docile monsters, if they're cute weak monsters.
It took me weeks to kill a turtle for the shell in the forest.
Heck, I even feel bad for attacking Tea's Shining Friendship in Duel Links.
I rarely feel bad about killing people in video games, though I would probably feel bad if you had to kill a child in any game.