To fair, gran turismo has never been know for its environments, or any racing sim.
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Do you think big leaps in gaming are over?
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To fair, gran turismo has never been know for its environments, or any racing sim.
Take a game like battlefront, where they used photogrammetry, I mean you can't get much more real then real.
Kinda odd to start a thread about the future of video games and being dismissive to the first talking point.
VR has issues in its current state, but none of those issues seem impossible to overcome with time. My phone can run GameCube games, I find it hard to imagine there won't be near-portable (or 'vr gaming standalone devices') in the future, hitting that cost effective price point for mass consumption
RTX is already quite the leap.
AI is next.
Better realistic physics and perhaps deteriation systems.
Binaural audio.
Better VR.
Virtual assistants.
Holographic systems.
Perhaps even 4D in house.
Motion pads or exo skeletons for gaming.
Lmao at those who think Gaming wont stop evolving or there is not a next big leap available. There is always something to be achieved on the horizon.
Hell I'd buy a Smelly Cap. If someone farted ingame I should smell it irl. šš½
AI is next.
Better realistic physics and perhaps deteriation systems.
Binaural audio.
Better VR.
Virtual assistants.
Holographic systems.
Perhaps even 4D in house.
Motion pads or exo skeletons for gaming.
Lmao at those who think Gaming wont stop evolving or there is not a next big leap available. There is always something to be achieved on the horizon.
Hell I'd buy a Smelly Cap. If someone farted ingame I should smell it irl. šš½
As if people hold "current" gaming in high regards :) Dsnt most movies/tv serials show gamers as someone still living in a basement...playing games alone? I won't be allowing my kids to "drown themselves" in any gaming environment for too long anyways. And PSVR specifically mentions an age limit...minimum 12 years iirc.
But its a completely different discussion. Peace!! :)
lol, VR is the ultimate goal of video games, its inevitable. Of course it could take another 20 years or something until we get there.
As for traditional games, there is still a ton that can happen with animations, physics, AI etc.
I've spent virtually every gen since Atari 2600 thinking it couldn't get any better than what we currently had. That we'd reached the peak of possibilities.
Decades later I stopped even considering that. We simply have no idea what's gonna come down the road in the future and change everything as we know it.
Decades later I stopped even considering that. We simply have no idea what's gonna come down the road in the future and change everything as we know it.
What makes you say that? I think virtual reality headsets will always be seen as corny by a lot of people, and mainstream gaming has always involved sitting in front of a TV since its inception
they could just be glasses or even lenses at some point. it only involved sitting in front of a tv/monitor because thats the only way it works.
making you feel like youre in the game has always been the goal.
What's the general trend? Because comparing the last two decades I think it's wild how fast technology and innovation is continuing to move.
Streaming games hosted in massively powerful data centers might actually lead to some pretty huge jumps and changes in experiences. Physics, number of NPCs and players.
As VR gets more powerful and self contained I could see it taking off too. The Quest is a start in that direction for sure.
As VR gets more powerful and self contained I could see it taking off too. The Quest is a start in that direction for sure.
Astro Bot is third person and probably the most immersive VR game there is
its still about feeling like you are there
Unless we hit the tech singularity, I think the large leaps are over. Nothing will ever change the industry that quickly, everything will just be a slow march forward. Even if VR does take off into the mainstream, it's been such a long time coming that it'll never feel like a 'leap', just a natural progression.
No decent local multiplayer experience means its not the ultimate goal of video games lol.
I think the next leap will be high framerates.
edit: Mainly because next gen systems will be using Ryzen 3000 processors and those are pretty damn good at high frame rates. Also because Sony and Microsoft have talked up high frame rates. 4k 120fps would be great, but I don't think that's remotely realistic.
edit: Mainly because next gen systems will be using Ryzen 3000 processors and those are pretty damn good at high frame rates. Also because Sony and Microsoft have talked up high frame rates. 4k 120fps would be great, but I don't think that's remotely realistic.
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For me big leaps in Mobile is over. New ones have tech I don't even need.
Big leaps in Gaming will come in the form of VR, whose limits are truly endless. To have diminishing returns in VR is to have 100% human biology integrated for gaming experience (safely). So yeah, that pit is looking pretty deep.
Big leaps in Gaming will come in the form of VR, whose limits are truly endless. To have diminishing returns in VR is to have 100% human biology integrated for gaming experience (safely). So yeah, that pit is looking pretty deep.
it's not "the future", it's a new form of video gaming that presently has some great exclusive games, and the future of it is extremely exciting to me (a lifelong video game enthusiast). I don't know or really care about what the bar for "mainstream" is.
it's already been, to me, the biggest tech leap in a very long time, and the path forward for future VR tech is clear
big jumps are hard because games are already extremely expensive and take a lot of time to make.
We would need a better and faster way of realizing the vision of creators into games, but I wouldn't even know where to start.
But in all honesty I am happy with games. If I look at God of War, Prey, Red Dead Redemption 2, The Last of Us, Uncharted and many many many more I think we are already experiecing something amazing. There is always room for improvement and things will go forward, but I think the noticeable differences between each generation will get smaller and smaller.
We would need a better and faster way of realizing the vision of creators into games, but I wouldn't even know where to start.
But in all honesty I am happy with games. If I look at God of War, Prey, Red Dead Redemption 2, The Last of Us, Uncharted and many many many more I think we are already experiecing something amazing. There is always room for improvement and things will go forward, but I think the noticeable differences between each generation will get smaller and smaller.
local multiplayer is like 1% of gaming nowadays
sad but true. even coop focused games like the new wolfenstein or racing games dont have split screen anymore.
Personally I didn't feel a massive leap from last generation to this one. Sure there's still room to improve, but I don't really expect to have a "WOW!" sort of moment from a graphical upgrade at this point.
Yeah, I think there's a misconception that "gameplay" hasn't changed much basically since 2004. But if you go back and play games like Morrowind or the PS2 God of War games, there's SO MUCH that has changed. Developers have gotten so much better at the "feel" of combat (Sekiro!), the blending of controlled cameras and cinematics (Spiderman!), companion characters, etc. Some of that is just experience and design, but a lot has to do with hardware capabilities too. The advancements in dynamic animation that enable the clashing swords in Seikro would not feel the same on PS2 or PS3.
Nah, just because we can't currently see it doesn't mean it won't happen.
I remember playing Oblivion when it came out on the 360 and thinking "How is any open world game going to top this?". You look now at the likes of Witcher 3 & RDR 2 and see how much further the genre has progressed in just one generational leap. With the advances in technologies I can't see why we couldn't see something amazing with the next machines, especially when it looks as though they're a bigger leap over the current ones than the PS4 and XB1 were over the PS3/360.
I remember playing Oblivion when it came out on the 360 and thinking "How is any open world game going to top this?". You look now at the likes of Witcher 3 & RDR 2 and see how much further the genre has progressed in just one generational leap. With the advances in technologies I can't see why we couldn't see something amazing with the next machines, especially when it looks as though they're a bigger leap over the current ones than the PS4 and XB1 were over the PS3/360.
When people say co-op they mean sports games, a really big part of the market.
I think in terms of visuals we are starting to reach diminishing returns on console. Most console games now run at resolutions above 1080p. I think the next big leap will be games running at a native 4k resolution while maintaining a solid 60 fps. Of course im sure things like texture detail can always improve but everything looks so good now its hard to see how. its not like the end of last generation where you could tell that those ancient boxes were struggling to run alot of modern 3rd party games without massive visual sacrifices.
I don't think we'll ever be as wowed by visual leaps as we have in the past i.e 2D to 3D and SD to HD. I'm sure there's impressive visual tech still to come but we've seen so much by this point each knew thing will be cool but not mind blowing.
I think there are some leaps to be made in gaming though aside from visuals. The first game that comes out with truly special crazy good AI will be huge.
I think there are some leaps to be made in gaming though aside from visuals. The first game that comes out with truly special crazy good AI will be huge.
Visually, yeah, I'd say so. Diminishing returns and all that. There just isn't very much further for visuals to go, but I'm also slightly older and find myself impressed by how good most of the games I play these days look, regardless of platform (that includes Switch).
And that's not even getting into the truly stunning graphics we've seen this gen, like in Horizon: Zero Dawn or Spider-Man for example. When I behold games like those, I can't ever imagine wanting or especially "needing" games to look even better, and I don't see how they could by any meaningful degree anymore.
I also have zero issues going back to 8-bit and 16-bit graphics and still appreciating those visuals too, though, so maybe I'm not the right audience for this question.
And that's not even getting into the truly stunning graphics we've seen this gen, like in Horizon: Zero Dawn or Spider-Man for example. When I behold games like those, I can't ever imagine wanting or especially "needing" games to look even better, and I don't see how they could by any meaningful degree anymore.
I also have zero issues going back to 8-bit and 16-bit graphics and still appreciating those visuals too, though, so maybe I'm not the right audience for this question.
I hope not,I've been told for a long time how bad the cpu's are in consoles......I'm expecting great things next gen.
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Doesn't matter how good the graphics are when we're still controlling the game with a game pad
I expect a decent leap, not huge, but still obvious. In all fairness games look amazing these days, so the upgrades will be based more around lighting and particle effects than pure graphical prowess.
At least that is my thinking.
At least that is my thinking.
Came across similar threads last year but this is the most recent.
This is the next big leap, not just in terms of the end-user experience but game development itself. Some of the more rote tasks like asset creation could be partially automated, allowing development budgets to be used on something else, be it making more games or improving the areas where automation is less effective.
*asks about new technology*
*shits upon whats actually taking advantage of that new technology*
Like...huh?
People said the same thing when we saw the first PS4 games, and now look at late ps3 vs late ps4 or pc with rtx vs. 2013. This is totally bunk.
