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Do you think it's important to watch Captain Marvel before Endgame?
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Yeah, basically. Films are made for as broad an audience as possible. The last thing Marvel Studios would want is people being scared to pay money to watch a film because they might not have seen enough earlier films to let them understand it.
As I said earlier in the thread, Avengers was the first film in the MCU I ever saw. I was confused for the first few minutes but then Helicarrier. Then there was plenty of time for exposition and by the time the film ended I felt I knew and cared about all these new people. I never thought somebody called, of all names, Captain America would become one of my favourite cinematic characters.
Plot wise it doesn't really feel too necessary. You should be fine. I'm glad I watched it though as it was a fun movie and it'll make me feel more invested in the character going into Endgame.
The "Nah you dont actually need to watch the movies to understand stuff" posts explains why we have threads like the Civil War one where people are complaining about there being no stakes or ramifications for stuff that happens. Half the people probably arent even watching the films. Just catching one here and there; then wondering why they don't understand the impact stuff like the Accords has had on the characters/team.
Doubt it. Here's what you need to know: Carol Danvers aka Captain Marvel had some wacky hijinks with Nick Fury in the 90s, beated up the bad guys, and then fucked off to space for 25 years.
If every single movie needs to be watched to understand a comic book movie where cgi heroes fly around and cause explosions, it's been poorly told.
Had this argument at work recently.
I say no*
*unless it is absolutely vital you want context for her origin story...which doesn't seem very connected to Infinity War. Useful for sure but I believe can be seen after Endgame just as well.
Others argued it is necessary to see first due to some real minor spoilerish things that I didn't think made much of a difference from a blind watch point of view.
If able, see it.
If not, do not stress. See it later, you'll be fine.
I say no*
*unless it is absolutely vital you want context for her origin story...which doesn't seem very connected to Infinity War. Useful for sure but I believe can be seen after Endgame just as well.
Others argued it is necessary to see first due to some real minor spoilerish things that I didn't think made much of a difference from a blind watch point of view.
If able, see it.
If not, do not stress. See it later, you'll be fine.
There is absolutely nothing in Captain Marvel that is necessary to understand the conclusion to this storytelling arc.
It's really not that crucial to Endgame. I'm a huge MCU buff, as many people on this forum are, and really liked Captain Marvel, and Carol herself, but all the movie will give you is a sense of who Carol is before going into Endgame, and you'll be more invested in her character. I don't think anything will be lost on you when you go watch Endgame really. Don't be bummed out. It's very much contained in its own little corner of the MCU which is the 90s.
You don't even know what's in the movie. You have no idea if this is true or not. It's a guess at best. And its honestly exactly what Im talking about.
It would take nothing more than
a team member getting bodybagged and turning green for someone who saw Captain Marvel to smile and enjoy it, and someone who didn't to go "Huh?".
Thats a little off topic though so Ill leave it be.
The events can be skipped, but it's the only way to know who Carol is.
So it's a little more important than watching The ant-man films or Black Panther (which had their relevant bits happen in Civil War) or Guardians of the Galaxy V.2 (which only really matters to explain why Nebula is a guardian in Infinity War and who Mantis is.)
So it's a little more important than watching The ant-man films or Black Panther (which had their relevant bits happen in Civil War) or Guardians of the Galaxy V.2 (which only really matters to explain why Nebula is a guardian in Infinity War and who Mantis is.)
Nah. It's one of the weakest MCU movies and there's nothing much in it that'll tie into Endgame that a few lines of exposition won't cover.
In my opinion -- no. Just knowing she's top tier strongest Marvel character and was away from Earth until Nick Fury paged her back will likely be enough.
Even at three hours, I doubt that there will be a lot of time devoted to developing CM's character. But then again, Thor had a huge character arc in IW so who knows?
Even at three hours, I doubt that there will be a lot of time devoted to developing CM's character. But then again, Thor had a huge character arc in IW so who knows?
No. First, what the fuck are stakes? The viewer just wants to inhabit the universe and see cool stuff happen.
Second, you can watch a film with a knowledge of the genre and it will probably help you to understand it. Like, in Avengers, a valuable thing is stolen and a crisis is created so there are two problems: avoid the crisis (run away) and then retrieve the thing of value.
But you know why we watch the MCU films? It's because they're well written, well cast, well directed and well acted. You get Samuel L Jackson and Robert Downey Junior and some other superb actors into the same room with an exciting script, you have a winner.
I believe it is.
I believe the essential films to watch in the MCU leading up to Endgame are:
1. Ironman
2. Ironman 2
3. Captain America 1
3. Thor
4. Avengers
5. Guardian of the Galaxy
6. Captain America 2
7. Avengers 2
8. Civil War
9. Dr. Strange
10. Thor 3
11. Black Panter
12. Captain Marvel
You can skip films like Iron man 3, Thor 2, Ant-man, etc.
I believe the essential films to watch in the MCU leading up to Endgame are:
1. Ironman
2. Ironman 2
3. Captain America 1
3. Thor
4. Avengers
5. Guardian of the Galaxy
6. Captain America 2
7. Avengers 2
8. Civil War
9. Dr. Strange
10. Thor 3
11. Black Panter
12. Captain Marvel
You can skip films like Iron man 3, Thor 2, Ant-man, etc.
if your worried it might have had some critical plot points that might be important, nah. You are ok if you miss it.
Compared to something like Ragnarok or Civil war, CM felt pretty self contained origin story with a few fun nuggets attaching it to MCU events since its a technically early in the timeline but thats it.
Im sure knowing who the heck CM is is important for Endgame but thats it.
Compared to something like Ragnarok or Civil war, CM felt pretty self contained origin story with a few fun nuggets attaching it to MCU events since its a technically early in the timeline but thats it.
Im sure knowing who the heck CM is is important for Endgame but thats it.
Yeah, I know. The question you are answering is something like "how could I approximate your appreciation of the MCU, Padawan?" The question that was asked is really "I can't realistically watch this film before I see Endgame, would I be missing much?"
We may have our own answers to the latter question, but as somebody who has spent an entire lifetime (six decades and counting) catching up with film series through sequels, the plain fact is that the exposition will be enough in any competently produced film.
As somebody who watched Doctor No and From Russia with Love in the cinema as a child, I question whether anybody would seriously suggest that one must actually view Ursula Andress rising from the sea in order to appreciate Casino Royale.
All you need to know about Carol is:
1. Who she is.
2. What her powers are.
3. Who she is aligned with and what her motivation is.
That can all be summed up in a paragraph or two.
Anything else is irrelevant, with respect to Endgame's plot.
It is a good movie though. Just not essential to make Endgame work.
All the other MCU movies worked fine without knowing Capt. Marvel ever existed. She's coming in now because there's no known counter for the Infinity Guantlet that anyone knows about. In fact, we still don't even know if she is the "one". Which means we'll probably get the blanks filled in DURING Endgame. So, if you're up on all the other movies, you should be good.
1. Who she is.
2. What her powers are.
3. Who she is aligned with and what her motivation is.
That can all be summed up in a paragraph or two.
Anything else is irrelevant, with respect to Endgame's plot.
It is a good movie though. Just not essential to make Endgame work.
All the other MCU movies worked fine without knowing Capt. Marvel ever existed. She's coming in now because there's no known counter for the Infinity Guantlet that anyone knows about. In fact, we still don't even know if she is the "one". Which means we'll probably get the blanks filled in DURING Endgame. So, if you're up on all the other movies, you should be good.
Carol was a superhero in the 90's, she has tons of power, she's been gone for awhile. That's pretty much all you need to know. It's a good movie, but you can skip it and not miss more than a couple of call backs.
No, not at all. I'm sure Endgame will act like you should know who Captain Marvel is, but that's it. She is strong and awesome and went away for a while.
Not really. Nothing in Captain Marvel seems like it would directly tie into Endgame, nor did she interact with anyone besides Fury.
Also, if is does happen, I'm sure there will be exposition explaining it.
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um I would, like I said in the op you might not have read I don't wanna watch it dubbed in German which is literally the only option here in Tyrol (Austria). I would have to travel to Munich or something to see it.
They don't sell dvd/bluray with language options and you can't acquire it on the internet in English?
I'd put Ant Man and The Wasp on there as well. Those quantum shenanigans and Ant-Man being a (as far as we know from the trailers) fairly significant character.
The 007 comparison isn't really the same though, as Bond movies are usually pretty self contained. It's not different chapters of a bigger soapy story. There is nothing in Doctor No that is of any importance for or ties into Casino Royale. The MCU has more of a soapy structure, where the ensemble episodes push a general story further, and the individual ones take into account what happened before (but still usually tell self-contained stories that aren't essential to getting the whole overarching story.) I mean, I've seen all MCU's to date except for Incredible Hulk, and most I've only seen once. I've forgotten most of them almost completely, and I still have no problem whatsoever to follow the new ones.
But I totally agree with you on exposition. If it is important to understand a story a good film maker will make sure it is explained. If it's not important and just a little nod, it's fun for the fans. And because these MCU-movies (even the ensemble films) are written as stand alone stories with a clear new conflict and a beginning-middle-end-structure, you can kind of hop in anywhere in the series you want. Especially the stand-alone films are usually little more than back story. You don't need to know how or why Thor is on a space ship in the beginning of Infinity War for instance, or how Black Panther became the king of Wakanda. The movie tells you they are, and the reasons aren't actually all that important for the central conflict of IW.
With no stakes people mean that because of the serialised nature of the story, there often is no real sense of danger and events are brushed of sooner or later. The ramifications are often just the new conflict to resolve in the next one, in a perpetual circle. Of course there are personal ramifications, and I think Civil War is one of the better ones in this regard (even though afterwards they did so little with it. Even in IW they just keep Cap and Iron Man apart, in stead of forcing them together).
I don't totally agree with the sentiment the MCU has no stakes, but it does feel more like a soap structure to me where you know there is no end in sight (Endgame will probably be the first to change that). One if its main problems is that it sometimes quickly reverts the conclusion of previous films. Homecoming Ends with Peter realising he is better suited to be friendly neighbourhood spider-man in stead of an Avenger, only for IW in the first 15 minutes to completely revert this for instance. Because of stuff like this, it can feel like big conclusions and arcs don't really matter, because everything goes back to the status quo anyway.
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the movie doesn't release until June or something for home media/digital downloads.
If by acquiring it on the internet you mean downloading a cam rip yeah no thanks, first of all the quality of cam rips is downright insulting your senses and second of all I do wanna pay for it I just don't want to pay for a inferior dubbed version that would make me cringe myself to Wakanda.
Anyway I'm glad the majority is saying it won't be that crucial, I'll just read a synopsis I guess.
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This is true. I saw no other movies before Infinity War and I enjoyed it a whole real lot but it's almost pointless to watch End Game without seeing IW.
If those are your options I'd watch the dub just to get the vibe and plot. Does it have English subs? Even if not it'll be better than reading a plot summary.
You'll miss out on some humour, that's all.
You don't even need to read the synopsis probably. It takes place almost 30 years before Endgame, and it doesn't seem any of the main plotpoints or reveals tie into it in any way. It's an origin story of a hero that will show up in Endgame. There is not much more to it
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lol nah man German dubs actively make my hair stand up, it's either completely laughable or pure cringe. I wouldn't need English subs, German is my native language.
Then Jesus f'ing Christ watch it, man!!
It's one of the best MCU movies and an excellent lead-in to Endgame.
I mean... I just watched Captain America First Avenger and Captain America The Winter Soldier for the first time having seen every other MCU film.
It's essential. Not only is it a great movie, but I can't imagine going into Endgame without knowing Carol or her relationship with Fury. She's obviously going to play an important role in the plot and having her just come out of leftfield would be jarring.
I loved the film, especially Carol's relationship with Fury and the way Brie Larson played the character. Had a ton of fun at the theater and so did everyone that was there with me.
I loved the film, especially Carol's relationship with Fury and the way Brie Larson played the character. Had a ton of fun at the theater and so did everyone that was there with me.
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I'm telling you, the German dub would totally ruin it for me. It's like this with every movie, I only watch movies in German if it is originally German.
