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Do you think the next PlayStation's launch will be as successful as the PS4's in sales? POLL
- Thread starter DrDeckard
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I see no compelling reason why not. Sony is so far ahead of the pack in terms of global mindshare I really see no realistic scenario where MS could supplant them.
MS are going to be a lot more smart, savvy, efficient, better messaging, amazing exclusives, affordable hardware, more powerful, then what they had with the X1.
At least in the UK and NA and Latin America I think Sony lose ground at launch
At least in the UK and NA and Latin America I think Sony lose ground at launch
you've gotta figure MS is going to have a more compelling sell this go around compared to the Xbox One in 2013
of course, but Sony is also probably aware that mS won't back down and will have to counter to make the Ps5 as attractive as possible. and for the most part this year so far, Ps4 has still been successful so that momentum can still ride in their favor partly early next gen.
This generation has been more about attrition for Sony. I think launch numbers wont be aligned and that by the third month their will be a stark comparison. Unless Momentum and mindshare swing heavily for XBOX (outside the context of forums like this) it'll be a blowout.
Then there's those launch exclusives...
Then there's those launch exclusives...
sure, was just answering why more people would go with MS this go around. it'd be hard for them to anywhere but up compared to the Xbox One in 2013.
Exactly. Let's imagine that Sony does as great a job with messaging on the PS5 that they did with the PS4 at launch. And at the same time imagine that Microsoft actually does a good job with the next Xbox's launch. All things being equal, couldn't we expect some of those people that switched to the PS4 this gen to move to the Xbox next gen? Of course, not all things are equal (exclusives, services, cost, etc.), and Sony has done a great job the entire gen, but Microsoft has completely turned things around (aside from the high quality exclusives) so I think it'll be much more of a competition next gen.
If it launches with great software, at a reasonable price, greatly enhanced features and maybe cheaper online services and access I think that it most definitely will.
Wouldn't those very same people lose their purchases in the transition? They would and that itself would likely be enough to keep them within Sony's ecosystem unless PS5 is terrible in various aspects...which is unlikely.
No, cause MS isn't going to bring out Don Mattrick and the always-online DRM bullshit like the last generation.
If anything, it could be arrogant Sony's return in some way. There is already some concern that if they go with a SSD solution, they'll want to go with proprietary storage for expansion that you'll need to buy from them. Turning the PS5 into the Vita.
As much as SSD as standard will be good, people will want to plug in their 3~5TB externals.
If anything, it could be arrogant Sony's return in some way. There is already some concern that if they go with a SSD solution, they'll want to go with proprietary storage for expansion that you'll need to buy from them. Turning the PS5 into the Vita.
As much as SSD as standard will be good, people will want to plug in their 3~5TB externals.
Ps4 launch games was killzone and knack? What came the year after? Really don't remember. The order 1886 ?
What if horizon zero dawn 2 is a launch game and god of war 2 is in a near launch window? And the last of us and dead stranding are cross gen with better versions on ps5 ?
Who in their right mind wouldn't want to buy it?
What if horizon zero dawn 2 is a launch game and god of war 2 is in a near launch window? And the last of us and dead stranding are cross gen with better versions on ps5 ?
Who in their right mind wouldn't want to buy it?
It's hard to know before we know the price and the state of the competition (Xbox), but the PS brand has only gotten stronger since PS4 launched.
Because some think Sony only sells this much due to luck. So they think next gen it's downhill for them.
I think its gonna do a bit less than PS4 did around launch(~1 year), but catch up with strong midgen(second/third year).
After that i dont really know, since by then Streaming services+the infrastructure to support them might be strong enough actually affect console sales, while mobile gaming might have come far enough to even appeal to that ever crucial demographic that tends to buy consoles only late gen when its mature and cheap.
The reason for the lower start is imo PS5 will have much more competition, on several fronts.
In the traditional MS/XB markets(so mostly USA) they will have to face a much stronger XB in both message, marketing and focus.
In the regions that are usualy PS dominated, i think they will face the same issue apple is now facing, being that PS4/PS4 Pro are so good and popular that less people will upgrade like they did from PS3 to PS4.
I think there PS5 will compete with PS4 still being good for many, and even for the people that do want to upgrade from their base PS4, PS5 will have to compete with PS4 Pro.
Then there is Japan, where it is incredibly likely that PS5 will perform worse than PS4, even if it does better worldwide.
Japan has been moving away from Home consoles for a long time, and with Nintendo now having combined their Software that dominates the Japanese SW market( for example,of the combined million seller SW total 76% came from Nintendo/TPC and that does not even include SW on Nintendo systems that is not Nintendo/TPC published) with the portable Hardware that rules Japan, PS5 has much more competition than the PS4 had with the failure that was WiiU, and the 3DS that dominated HW, but didnt have the juice to run anything even remotely high end.
I hope PS5 can grow beyond PS4, but PS4 was really successfull this gen( and i say that as someone from a country that usualy has like 80% of sales being from Sony). From my personal experience, i have several friends and family members who dont really follow gaming that much, but have a ps4, who got the info about PS5 from me tell me that they dont really see the need for a PS5, since their PS4 is still great for them.
But i personally have gotten back into gaming a lot in the recent years, and i think i might pick up a PS5, even though my last home console(i dont really consider Switch one since it essentialy replaced my 3DS) was the XB360, so maybe there is indeed growth to be had for PS5.
Gen 7 had a recession, but was the most successfull generation for literally every console/handheld manufacturer.
MS sold more consoles than OG XB and XB1 combined.
Sony sold more consoles/handhelds combined than any other generation(unless PS4+Vita somehow sells another 50m before the generation ends).
Nintendo sold 250m devices, more than any manufacturer ever did(and probably will).
After that i dont really know, since by then Streaming services+the infrastructure to support them might be strong enough actually affect console sales, while mobile gaming might have come far enough to even appeal to that ever crucial demographic that tends to buy consoles only late gen when its mature and cheap.
The reason for the lower start is imo PS5 will have much more competition, on several fronts.
In the traditional MS/XB markets(so mostly USA) they will have to face a much stronger XB in both message, marketing and focus.
In the regions that are usualy PS dominated, i think they will face the same issue apple is now facing, being that PS4/PS4 Pro are so good and popular that less people will upgrade like they did from PS3 to PS4.
I think there PS5 will compete with PS4 still being good for many, and even for the people that do want to upgrade from their base PS4, PS5 will have to compete with PS4 Pro.
Then there is Japan, where it is incredibly likely that PS5 will perform worse than PS4, even if it does better worldwide.
Japan has been moving away from Home consoles for a long time, and with Nintendo now having combined their Software that dominates the Japanese SW market( for example,of the combined million seller SW total 76% came from Nintendo/TPC and that does not even include SW on Nintendo systems that is not Nintendo/TPC published) with the portable Hardware that rules Japan, PS5 has much more competition than the PS4 had with the failure that was WiiU, and the 3DS that dominated HW, but didnt have the juice to run anything even remotely high end.
I hope PS5 can grow beyond PS4, but PS4 was really successfull this gen( and i say that as someone from a country that usualy has like 80% of sales being from Sony). From my personal experience, i have several friends and family members who dont really follow gaming that much, but have a ps4, who got the info about PS5 from me tell me that they dont really see the need for a PS5, since their PS4 is still great for them.
But i personally have gotten back into gaming a lot in the recent years, and i think i might pick up a PS5, even though my last home console(i dont really consider Switch one since it essentialy replaced my 3DS) was the XB360, so maybe there is indeed growth to be had for PS5.
Gen 7 had a recession, but was the most successfull generation for literally every console/handheld manufacturer.
MS sold more consoles than OG XB and XB1 combined.
Sony sold more consoles/handhelds combined than any other generation(unless PS4+Vita somehow sells another 50m before the generation ends).
Nintendo sold 250m devices, more than any manufacturer ever did(and probably will).
What does turned things around when looking at sales numbers the gap to Sony and even Nintendo only got bigger. Where is the group which is basically just waiting for to get a the Xbox?
I don't think PS5 is going to be AS successful as PS4 at launch, but serious question why would anyone with a PS4 and library switch to Xbox if PS5 is BC? I am not saying no one will obviously but my question is what is making you think a lot of people will?
I guess it depends on how you define launch. I think at the start, given how much goodwill Sony has generated, they can definitely exceed PS4 numbers (pending supply) while the competition also does extremely well. But I think over time, assuming the competition remains competitive we'll see different ceilings and things taper off faster.
We're approaching a very interesting time where all three competitors will be delivering products that are going to be very appealing to the consumer presumably without any major mistakes, but it's also a time where things don't reset just as easily as generations past. I'm curious to see what that all means going forward.
We're approaching a very interesting time where all three competitors will be delivering products that are going to be very appealing to the consumer presumably without any major mistakes, but it's also a time where things don't reset just as easily as generations past. I'm curious to see what that all means going forward.
I voted no, but only for the alleged slightly higher price points. In terms of relative success, I say that it matches, but the actual number of units might be a smidge lower.
I also believe that there's a significant portion of the user base who are not tired of the current consoles.
I also believe that there's a significant portion of the user base who are not tired of the current consoles.
I'm predicting Sony prepares over 5M PS5's to be shipped for launch quarter. Depending on how manufacturing goes, maybe close to 6 million. They were already shipping 4.5M for PS4's launch, +5M Should be the expected launch sales for PS5.
2021 sales I have no clue on. Could be worse than PS4 because the next Xbox is a more popular console compared to the XB1.
PS4 was supply constrained until March 2014, I think PS5 won't have that problem in 2020.
2021 sales I have no clue on. Could be worse than PS4 because the next Xbox is a more popular console compared to the XB1.
PS4 was supply constrained until March 2014, I think PS5 won't have that problem in 2020.
People referring to the MS turnaround always mean the perception turnaround and not sales. MS is largely in the same situation they were at the start of the generation sales wise, with some key bumps around the holiday time.
And that lack of broader appeal, that lack of appeal for Xbox outside of two or three countries, that's what makes it a tough journey for them next-gen.
Power doesn't mean anything when you only compete in a few markets.
Don't care what MS offer I have over 100 games on ps4. if even half of those work on ps5 I won't bother with Xbox since I never got one this gen
Revise history? You seem to not get tired of being wrong all the time. The launch numbers are there and for the first 36 months the Xbox one was outpacing the Xbox 360 and was sticking very close to the PS4 in the US and UK or in the Xbox tier 1 launch countries.
This is impossible to guess right now. Without prices from each camp and launch dates, I would not hazard a guess.
Here in Italy is really simple: it is called PlayStation, it will play FIFA with better graphic. Sony is going to sell every unit they can put on the market. X-Box is basically an unknown brand.
Why are you worried? Did they give you any indication they won't call it ps5 or is it because of that stupid thread on era about Sony changing ps5 name lmao?
Like they will throw away the ps brand after it worked wonders for them lol some of y'all takes are too funnny
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I voted no based off the idea that it's going to be more expensive, which I think will turn be a turn off for them having as many early adopters.
Yep , it's cool I will be able to play my ps4 games on ps5
find it stupid people think most ps4 install base will go to Xbox lmao when most People were shouting all gen they care about their purchase
Why tf would anyone start over or buy the opposite system first when they got 0 purchase or few shit on there.
Keep in mind PS3 sold over 80M with the problems that console had. Don't think it's hyperbolic to say the only thing stopping a dominant PS console is Sony doing something stupid. MS will be more competitive next gen i agree . Still don't think that will affect anything globally.
My personal opinion is ultimately we do have to wait to see how they introduce the consoles and what controversies come up to ultimately say. But I'd say with what we know now, it's quite possible. With BC, they are going to have the effect that it will be easier for the many people who already got PS4 this generation to just stay in the ecosystem and buy the next playstation. That being said, I'm not sure consoles will benefit as much from that as smartphones as I think people see consoles already as their own seperate thing and are used to them being seperate. That's changing but it's not taken for granted that you stay in the same ecosystem near as much as it is with cellphones.
Also, the playstation name is pretty powerful. They've only had one playstation that didn't do well or as well as the competition and that mostly was in the US/UK that we saw that. And it still bounced back to be at least a decently good choice (as in it still got good third party seport and good first party games). Sony so far other than one misstep has shown they usually know what they're doing when it comes to consoles (not so much handhelds but Nintendo tends to dominate there).
The PS5 will do great, but they won't have the lack of Nintendo and the constant dunking on MS this time around. I'm buying one no matter what with the BC and VR working, but I'm hoping MS comes out swinging.
I mean, looking at my Xbox ready to install list from Oldbox, 360, and One I've got something like 500 some odd games ready to go. If I go by my PS4, I still have a big library but it's not 3 gens worth.
If the Xbox is the "better" system, that's what I'm buying first. People have more than one console, it won't just be cut and dry like that. Hell I jumped from MS to Sony last gen but got back on.
I mean, looking at my Xbox ready to install list from Oldbox, 360, and One I've got something like 500 some odd games ready to go. If I go by my PS4, I still have a big library but it's not 3 gens worth.
If the Xbox is the "better" system, that's what I'm buying first. People have more than one console, it won't just be cut and dry like that. Hell I jumped from MS to Sony last gen but got back on.
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