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What does "protagonist" mean?

  • The main playable character/lead/hero

    Votes: 144 92.9%
  • Any of the playable characters

    Votes: 11 7.1%

  • Total voters
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Nov 13, 2017
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Here's an even better debate.

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vestan

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I mean in general I use protagonist(s) to refer to leading character(s). A work of fiction can have dozens of protagonists.

If identifiable, I'll use main character to refer to a singular character that most of the story is experienced from the PoV of.
 

Hate

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Oct 26, 2017
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Yeah, I use protagonist. I usually use cast or party member for everyone else.
 

BDS

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Oct 25, 2017
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The protagonist is the main character of the story. A protagonist is one of many characters who are roughly equally co-leads in a work.

For example: Iron Man is the protagonist of Iron Man 3. He is a protagonist of The Avengers.
 

Crayolan

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've never seen someone use protagonist for anything but the main character, though some games can have multiple protagonists.
 

Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
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The first. But some stories have co-protagonists.

...Is this about Wild ARMs from the other thread, OP? :P
 

Jessie

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Oct 27, 2017
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I use it for the lead characters. Like I'd consider both Joel and Ellie to be the protagonist, because Ellie is playable for a while and the game is as much about her journey as it is about Joel's, even if Joel is the framing device.

For an ensemble, like Final Fantasy VII, I'd call Cloud the protagonist because the game is focused on him.
 

McNum

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Oct 26, 2017
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The protagonist doesn't even have to be the character you play as. Your character can be in a supporting role plot-wise.

It's better to not mix the terms, I think.
Protagonist is the lead of the narrative.
Playable characters are the characters the player gets to control.

A character can be both, but these are technically two independent aspects of a character.
 

Bit_Reactor

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Apr 9, 2019
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There are plenty of characters in games/media, they tend to only have 1 or a few Protagonists. Calling all the main cast of FFIX protagonists (as much as I love them) would be overdoing it a bit. But ultimately it's all splitting hairs.
 

Runner

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Nov 1, 2017
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Vaan is a viewpoint character the same way that Watson is - nobody would argue that Holmes wasn't the protagonist of the novels but they follow Watson.
 

bunkitz

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Oct 28, 2017
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Definitely the first. You can have multiple playable characters and some or all of them could share the role or protagonist if they're written as equal leads in the story, but there are instances where a playable character will simply be there as just that. Another playable character. Take Kingdom Hearts III for example. Riku is certainly not a protagonist, that role solely belongs to Sora.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Master Chief, Cortana, and Sgt. Johnson are all protagonists in my opinion. Each has an active role in the games.

Games like Deus Ex and Dishonored, at least with Corvo in the first game, tend to have a single protagonist.
 

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It means the first option, but the answer to the question in the title is that no, I usually don't. I call them the main character or whatever.
 

Phil32

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Oct 28, 2017
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The leading, primary character you play as in the game is the protagonist or hero. I like using the word "protagonist" for some fun alliteration like with Mario, such as "our portly plumber protagonist..."
 

Leviathan

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Oct 28, 2017
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Do people really use the word deuteragonist? I thought it was just a cool word in technical glossaries that nobody actually uses in real life.
I use it, very helpful for moments like this. I feel like it's fairly self-defining and it's frequently applicable.

Master Chief, Cortana, and Sgt. Johnson are all protagonists in my opinion. Each has an active role in the games.

Games like Deus Ex and Dishonored, at least with Corvo in the first game, tend to have a single protagonist.

MC is the only protagonist there, Cortana is a main character (specifically the deuteragonist), and Johnson is a supporting character.
 
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Disclaimer

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Oct 25, 2017
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Here's an even better debate.

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Vaan, while important for how he impacts Ashe and how his orphaning contextualizes the struggle, simply acts as the player's avatar, because he's the one to whom exposition and explanations are offered.

Ashe is certainly the leading heroine, for all Balthier's talk. It's chiefly her story — just look at the focus of the opening cinematic.

Anyway, for the OP: it depends. Some games have ensembles so evenly important that there's no one protagonist. Others have different leads depending on the act. So "protagonists" can be right, even in that sense.
 

Crayon

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Oct 26, 2017
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I use protagonist in the context of a story, not so much a game. Of course, most of the time the protagonist of the story is incidentally the player character.

For instance, the paddle in arkanoid is not a protagonist.
 

SuperRaddy

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Oct 27, 2017
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Main character, hate the use of protagonist in video games... when did this start happening as it just seems of someone wanting to give videos games a classier image...

Never heard of anyone referring to the main character as protagonist when growing up. Mario, sonic... are these protagonists or main characters ?? Lol
 

Leviathan

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Oct 28, 2017
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Main character, hate the use of protagonist in video games... when did this start happening as it just seems of someone wanting to give videos games a classier image...

Never heard of anyone referring to the main character as protagonist when growing up. Mario, sonic... are these protagonists or main characters ?? Lol
You make it sound like "protagonist" is uppity. It's a very simple, basic word in any narrative context. Class isn't really relevant.
 

Hate

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Oct 26, 2017
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Main character, hate the use of protagonist in video games... when did this start happening as it just seems of someone wanting to give videos games a classier image...

Never heard of anyone referring to the main character as protagonist when growing up. Mario, sonic... are these protagonists or main characters ?? Lol

I read a lot of books so I use protagonist. Also I vaguely remember some narration of stories in tv at the start introducing the main character as a protagonist of the storyl
 

Phellps

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Oct 25, 2017
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Main character, hate the use of protagonist in video games... when did this start happening as it just seems of someone wanting to give videos games a classier image...

Never heard of anyone referring to the main character as protagonist when growing up. Mario, sonic... are these protagonists or main characters ?? Lol
It's the same thing?
 

Leviathan

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Oct 28, 2017
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Could be and I'm not arguing that 😀

I'm just trying to point out when did it start to become more of a term for the main character in a video game rather than main character ?

I just don't use it or like it that's all. Not trying to argue anyone is right or wrong 😀
I don't think the balance of usage has shifted at all, except maybe in proportion to a rise in the number of games coming out with a greater focus on narrative. I guarantee people have been using the term protagonist since games have had stories.

And the word's meaning really isn't ambiguous, or something to argue. It's definitely a right or wrong thing.
 
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SuperRaddy

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't think the balance of usage has shifted at all, but perhaps in proportion to a rise in the number of games coming out with a greater focus on narrative. I guarantee people have been using the term protagonist since games have had stories.

And the word's meaning really isn't ambiguous, or something to argue. It's definitely a right or wrong thing.

I think the balance of usage has changed though. At least I never used it as a child or in my teens or even in my 20's, but I could be from a different generation to you. Or culturally from where I'm from (my local set of friends) it just wasn't used. I can't remember what main characters were referred to in video game magazines when I was a kid I can't back this up with facts other then my memory / perception of my past.

Main characters ftw!!
 

More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think the balance of usage has changed though. At least I never used it as a child or in my teens or even in my 20's, but I could be from a different generation to you. Or culturally from where I'm from (my local set of friends) it just wasn't used. I can't remember what main characters were referred to in video game magazines when I was a kid I can't back this up with facts other then my memory / perception of my past.

Main characters ftw!!
The main character usually is the protagonist, but not always.

Also games with a focus on narrative have gotten more popular and commonplace since the 90s