Do you want Melee attacks in Resident Evil?

[AdaWong]

With Resident Evil's recent emphasis on horror, it took away some of the defining characteristics of the Action RE's: the melee attacks. And with the remake of Resident Evil 2 running on the RE Engine -- which also hosted RE7, a game with almost no Melee attacks apart from its DLC -- it was expected that melee attacks wouldn't return. Especially since the stun-and-kick formula takes away from the suspense and fear the game's atmosphere wants to instill in you, naturally.

However, with the recent demos of RE2, it got me thinking how an action-style RE melee attack would look like running on this magnificent engine...

From the recent demo, here's Ada breaking a zombie's neck then punching the shit out of them after:

Can you imagine what HUNK's Neckbreaker, Jill's Cartwheel Kick, Ada's Fan Kick or Leon's Suplex would look like running on an engine like this? Do you want Melee attacks back or do you enjoy the current state of them being limited to cinematic and break-free situations?​

 

[TripaSeca]

I'd like melee if it wasn't almost guaranteed that I'd take a hit whenever I use it.
Maybe I just need to gitgud

 

[Deleted member 679]

Shooting a weak point and then using a melee finisher adds soooo much to the gameplay.

I don't mind if RE2 specifically doesn't have it, but I hope they come back in the next mainline game.

 

[AgentStrange]

Nah I prefer Brawl attacks

 

[How About No]

I would rather it be how it is in RE2make

That said even if we continue in the RE7/RE2 trajectory I wouldn't mind certain characters getting more melee movesets...ala Chris' punch on Not a Hero

 

[-JD-]

So ya'll just want RE5 and 6 again, huh?

 

[AdaWong]

I'd like melee if it wasn't almost guaranteed that I'd take a hit whenever I use it.
Maybe I just need to gitgud

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Wait, do you mean the opposite? BC melee attacks in RE4-6 make you invincible. I would actually LOVE if melee attacks weren't invincible, that would make for an awesome balance IMO. Furisco

 

[HStallion]

RE4 through 6 were full of this kind of stuff.

 

[Booga]

I think RE4's system but with slightly more realistic melee attacks. Like, I would have had characters find and hold onto a practical Melee ( lead pipe, police baton, hatchet etc) and when they stagger the enemy they can button prompt a hard melee blow to the enemies head, with a 25% chance of head crackin. So it would ultimately be as effective and fun as RE4, while still falling in line with the slightly more grounded combat of RE2 REmake.

 

[FluffyQuack]

I dunno if melees would work well in a slow-paced RE game like RE2 remake, but I do know that I want another acton RE game with a focus on melees. I miss mercenaries mode.

 

[How About No]

I would rather it be how it is in RE2make

That said even if we continue in the RE7/RE2 trajectory I wouldn't mind certain characters getting more melee movesets...ala Chris' punch on Not a Hero

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Like I could totally see Jill doing some kicks n punches in an RE3 remake

Edit: Even after the site overhauls inself I STILL CANT FUCKING EDIT DKFDJKFSF

 

[Lynchian Anomaly]

I don't mind melee attacks not being in a horror focused entry like this.

I miss suplexes and DDT's tho.

 

[i'm not a rob0t]

no its too violent

 

[Reddaye]

If it's a last line of defense, like when a zombie has grabbed you. TLoU actually had a pretty good system for this, that I think would work pretty well in an older style RE: limited amount of melee escapes based on a particular item. Works well with a more resource focused style of game IMO.

 

[Ardiloso]

I like the RE 4 and 5 aproach. 1 button for knife as melee and moves triggered by actions (ie, shoot in the face or knees than action button to melee)

 

[dlauv]

I like melee in RE, but it needs to be implemented more like RE4 and 5 (and 7's dlc) than it is in RE6, where it's more for tactical splash damage and ammo saving than just something to spam on each and every enemy for a time bonus.

 

[Randam]

I wouldn't mind some "realistic" melee attacks.
No suplex or roundhouse kicks though..

 

[How About No]

If it's a last line of defense, like when a zombie has grabbed you. TLoU actually had a pretty good system for this, that I think would work pretty well in an older style RE: limited amount of melee escapes based on a particular item. Works well with a more resource focused style of game IMO.

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pretty much what's in RE2 yeah? With the return of defense items like daggers and grenades

 

[Furisco]

Wait, do you mean the opposite? BC melee attacks in RE4-6 make you invincible. I would actually LOVE if melee attacks weren't invincible, that would make for an awesome balance IMO. Furisco

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One way of adding melee attacks to a survival horror RE is to remove their iframes and make you use them strategically instead of spamming it left and right.

I'd actually love to see them trying it, could be a lot of fun.

 

[Deleted member 43872]

Sure, I guess? It's fun, and it fits the camp tone.

But really, I want a beat-em-up that plays like Resident Evil. RE4-6 built and refined a clever, intense design for modern beat-em-up play in 3D, but because they're entries in a horror shooter franchise they couldn't go all the way, and the gestalt design of those games was increasingly messy and confused. I'd love to see the RE6 melee model spun off into its own franchise, like Devil May Cry spun off from an RE4 prototype.

 

[Skyball Paint]

Really depends on the game.
action movie RE? Hell yes
Survival Horror RE? Not so much.
Any enemy loses their ability to intimidate you if you can fucking suplex them.

I'd like melee if it wasn't almost guaranteed that I'd take a hit whenever I use it.
Maybe I just need to gitgud

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the melee moves in 4 are so absurdly safe. Ganados cannot hurt Leon through his shield of big dick suplex energy

 

[Reddaye]

pretty much what's in RE2 yeah? With the return of defense items like daggers and grenades

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Yeah, basically. Is that a thing in the remake? I've been avoiding media for the game. It worked pretty well in REMake from what I remember, and fits the resource management that I like in older Resident Evils.

 

[Dreamboum]

No thanks. It was cool for a decade+, let's try something else

 

[AdaWong]

Nah I prefer Brawl attacks

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I'm more of an Ultimate gal myself!

So ya'll just want RE5 and 6 again, huh?

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I dunno if melees would work well in a slow-paced RE game like RE2 remake, but I do know that I want another acton RE game with a focus on melees. I miss mercenaries mode.

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I honestly wouldn't label RE2 as slow-paced per se. It's definitely slower than RE4-6 but it's much more upbeat than RE7 -- in combat at least, there's a lot of running and shooting and dodging and breaking free.

I agree on the mercs part, I'm devastated that it's confirmed to not be back here. :(

 

[Ultimadrago]

I'm not pre-ordering Resident Evil 2! Gimme that big price drop down the line!

Also, yes, suplex all of the zombies.

 

[Furisco]

I wouldn't mind some "realistic" melee attacks.
No suplex or roundhouse kicks though..

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What's not realistic about suplexes ?

 

[Vert1]

I want remakes of Resident Evil games that mirror Resident Evil [GC], and the same goes for Resident Evil sequels.

 

[Deleted member 1102]

Other than HUNK's necksnap, no.

 

[How About No]

Yeah, basically. Is that a thing in the remake? I've been avoiding media for the game. It worked pretty well in REMake from what I remember, and fits the resource management that I like in older Resident Evils.

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[Deleted member 7130]

IDK, about a suplex... I wouldn't mind a sensible punch or kick though. I think the mood they got going with REmake2 wouldn't jive with WCW ring moves.

 

[FallenGrace]

How else would I break necks as Hunk?

 

[AdaWong]

The "NO" camp is catching up.... Let's prove them wrong you guys!

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[Static]

So ya'll just want RE5 and 6 again, huh?

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Yup.

 

[SofNascimento]

The "NO" camp is catching up.... Let's prove them wrong you guys!

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You forgot the best one ever:

 

[Igniz12]

I prefer the RE4 fork of the franchise so yes I would like them to be in. RE2 Remake is trying to go back to the more survival horror route and that's cool to but I love how the melee moves gave a bit extra personality and added an extra layer to the gameplay for each character.

 

[Gelf]

No. Especially not powerful melee as it would break the point of resource management if you can just kick the shit out of everything with no ammo.

 

[thepenguin55]

I feel like the melee combat only makes sense when you're making a bombastic action game. Even then, I'm hitting a point now where I'm finding myself kind of sick of that combat flow. I think Doom actually does the RE-style melee combat better because it keeps the flow of combat fast largely due to every melee attack in Doom being a finishing blow and due to most of the animations just being much faster. AND EVEN THAT is a mechanic I don't love.

The "run up to the enemy and press the corresponding button that appears onscreen" feels like very PS2-era game design to me. Essentially it feels like a vestige of early context sensitive game design and Capcom's use of that in the Action RE games is something I've just grown really tired of. I don't hate it but Capcom putting out RE7 made me realize just how tired and old Action style RE games were starting to feel. Capcom putting that style of RE on the shelf for awhile (until they have something truly new and fun to bring to it) feels like the right move to me.

 

[Randam]

What's not realistic about suplexes ?

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Do you/Can you do a suplex? Me neither.

 

[Toni]

Have them work exactly like the Last Of Us and I'm good.

 

[GymWolf86]

not in a more "realistic" game like this.
some basic moves with the knife and i'm ok.

 

[Yukari]

Make Sense that RE 2 Remake and RE 7 Main did't have Melee Attack since It's First times that Character met B.O.W.s

 

[Geist 6one7]

Thread needs more Wesker melee.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

So ya'll just want RE5 and 6 again, huh?

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Absolutely.

 

[Yukari]

So ya'll just want RE5 and 6 again, huh?

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And RE 4,REV1-2 didn't have it ?

 

[Garrod Ran]

Give HUNK the SPD, you absolute cowards

 

[TheMadTitan]

Yes. It doesn't even have to be the RE4-6 kind of melee. It could be toned down to where it's only good for staggering versus killing enemies outright. You know, MGS5 style CQC that can only be used if you stagger an enemy, but their heads don't explode.

Hunk can get the RE6 style melee because he's Hunk, but everyone else should be able to punch, kick, and push, but still feel vulnerable doing it.

 

[-JD-]

Guess I shouldn't be surprised by the poll results and some of the preferences here since RE4, 5, and 6 are the the top 3 top-selling games in the RE franchise.

 

[nded]

Maybe find a sweet spot between flailing around with a knife and doing izuna drops on zombies. Engaging at close range should be risky, but doable.

 

[TheBeardedOne]

Being able to push a zombie off of you and cause slight damage? Sure. Melee combat? No.

 

[Evolved1]

If I had to do it in say RE3make... melee would have to be realistic and it would have to be set up by a dodge-counter or precision shot to stagger. I would give Jill a basic dodge ability you could use to counter an enemy attack (ala RE6) but it would be a tighter window and get tighter with each successive attempt. I might even let her grapple/push off human zombies that are countered or staggered. Most important though... NO INVINCIBILITY during melee. You can get interrupted or damaged by mobs. I'd also make the basic zombie more aggressive for balance.

I think this would be a good compromise and skill based but hard to abuse. That would be my rough draft anyway.