DOAX:VV sets a new low on Sexualization of women including minors (NSFW)

Ferrs

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Oct 26, 2017
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But people posting screenshots and saying “does this look like an adult to you?!” All I can say is it looks like a young anime character. She doesn’t look like a real human at all. Saying a woman looks like a child for being more petite is patronizing as hell.

The game itself looks pretty lame though.
The problem isn't simply the looks. Speaking about the fighting game because I dunno about this shit, but she also acts like a kid, and wears infantilized outfits.
 

Mesoian

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Oct 28, 2017
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Are there any examples of dudes in the hot tub together?
In this game? No.

In games, you should play Asura's Wrath, but even then, it's very...


Regardless, none of you should be surprised as these are the people that worked with Playasia to try and convince dumb right wing gamers that the SJW's were going to take their games away or thought it would be a good idea to have Gravure models play with each other on an announcement stream. This sort of behavior, content and demeanor is hat in hand for the DOA teams and the people overseeing them.
 

Bass2448

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The problem is obviously Marie Rose. I mean, I know a girl that’s 21 and looks 15 but it’s pretty obvious who Marie Rose is supposed to appeal to.
That’s the shittiest part about this. There are women out there in their late 20’s that look 14. Is no person allowed to be sexually attracted to that late 20’s woman just because she’s petite? However we know what the hell the developers were trying to do with Marie rose. It’s sinister and blurs the lines that I’m talking about here. Marie rose is a huge problem in regards to what little morality DOA has. I really don’t understand why these games continue to get away with the “looks 14, but is 21” crap .
 

Mesoian

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Don't see the problem....

Do you blame the game that has over-violence content/feature? No

But you blame the game like DOAX VV...?

I mean... that's how they sell this game. People buy this game for this, people play this game for this.
I mean, there are several dozen discussions on this board alone about egregious violence in games so....

But that doesn't have anything to do with this subject, so I don't know why you're already dabbling in whataboutisms, except to deflect from the fact that everyone already knows the score when it comes to the DOA franchise.

What in the fuck even is this? A bathing sim?

This is just an excuse "game" for creeps right?
A porn game for people who are freaked out by full nudity, but have a raging voyerism fetish.
 

Crossing Eden

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Oct 26, 2017
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I point out the creepiness of their spinoff shit not absolve the ip of it, take your eye roll elsewhere. I know this unheard of for some of you, but it’s not a crazy concept that people dismiss a lot of shit for the actual mechanics in a fighting game.
I'm talking about the spinoff. People try to genuinely convince others that the game that literally has pole dances in it that they play it for the gameplay.
 

Famassu

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Oct 27, 2017
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Pretty much this. I am not sure why pure fanservice games should be banned if they clearly communicate that the game is all about that so everyone buying one knows what they get. Of course with Marie Rose they are going over the line though like you said.
I think with DOA people take issue with the fact that this is being done to excisting characters who, while sexualized, are otherwise used in the context of a fighting game and as such retain some form of... value outside of being sexy, not just things to oggle at. Other than the gross sexualization of children, I don't think people would otherwise give a fuck if a lame game like this existed outside known franchises.
 
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I'm by no means trying to defend this filth, but let's be fair for a second here. When people introduced me to Riley Reid's work back in the days, I thought they were kidding me because I thought they went pedo. Similar issue, so this is not something that can only be related to Japan, but Japan has the habit of really pushing things to the extreme.
 

BeaconofTruth

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I'm talking about the spinoff. People try to genuinely convince others that the game that literally has pole dances in it that they play it for the gameplay.
Then allow me to further clarify, that unlike the fighting game crowd, the spinoff crowd saying that shit is full of shit lol.

Those other shits are more blatantly soft core porn.
 

Bhonar

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You know, I honestly wouldn't have a problem with the game if it wasn't for Marie Rose. It's an overly sexualized game, but that's exactly what they sell it as. They're not pretending to be something else and they're not making up some "ashamed of your words and deeds" bullshit.

But Marie Rose just pushes the shit way too far. She's a fucking little girl and they put her in that shit. It's just plain fucked up and there is zero excuse for it.
I completely agree. I like T&A and sexualization a lot, and as you said it's not like they are hiding it with excuses.

But not on characters that look 13 years old, that's really lame

Actually I wish they would make all the girls around 25-30, I think that's when women look the best
 

Lulu

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is cringest thirsty nerd gamer shit imaginable. If you play this you deserve an L.
 

Skyebaron

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Loli's over 21 or even those over 1,000 years old should be banned. Come on, we know why your pedophilic ass is creating, drawing or watching that.

Its too bad, cause DOA is a great fighting game.
 

Mesoian

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I just want to reiterate.

Porn is okay
Smut is okay
It's fine to have sexual attraction of the human form
It's fine to make content for people who want to "admire" the human form.

:👏: STOP :👏: PUTTING :👏: CHILDREN :👏: IN :👏: GAMES :👏: DESIGNED :👏: PURELY :👏: TO :👏: ILLICIT :👏: SEXUAL :👏: DESIRE

I get that it happens a lot in japanese media. I get it's possible to have a body that doesn't conform to the natural standards of what an adult body is. I get that you can use lore to contextualize or handwave the age of your cast if you decide to.

Stop it.
You''re not cute.
You're not slick.
You're not clever.
You are a pedophile.
 

Kewlmyc

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why do some people respond with a completely useless comment like this, as if it justifies it?

The OP knows is "fan service." That doesn't make it okay to design characters specifically to look as if they are underage and then put them in situations like this. It's gross.
I don't think that poster was trying to justify it or say it's not gross. It's more like it's to be expected of the franchise at this point so it isn't surprising. It's not a new low when it's been at the bottom of the barrel for a while now.
 

RM8

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K-T has way more creativity when it comes to creepy garbage than when it comes to adding anything novel to DOA6.
 

Mesoian

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I didn't get into that beta, but I really hope they do something with the female outfits for Nioh2 so we don't get more of the above.

K-T has way more creativity when it comes to creepy garbage than when it comes to adding anything novel to DOA6.
See I don't think that's true. I think that this is the laziest you can possibly get when it comes to making smut because it's rubbing up against the concept of being completely safe while still going "teehee, do you see the titties? Teehee...they're bouncing".

It's weak unimaginative garbage.
 

SimonM7

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DOA was always a fighting game with playboy bunnies. I can get mad that an ostensibly for-everyone fighter like Street Fighter 5 has aggressive POV dives into people's cleavages that assume everyone playing it is into boobs, but I can't really get upset that the titilating boob fighter has titilating boob things going on.

And the whole age issue is a pretty pointless thing to argue about. They can say any of their various pretend ladies is any age, and there are plenty of women who look infinitely younger than they are. It doesn't help that basically all anime faces look like children either way, and I think that's mainly what's causing the jarring imagery, honestly.

You can spot what this game is from a mile away and avoid it. I'd direct my anger at the games that honestly should be for everyone, like Soul Calibur and Street Fighter, which are so aggressively in-your-face male gaze driven these days that I've completely lost interest.
 

Pickle

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This game is not available outside asia. I dont get the OPs take or need to advertise something ERA wouldnt have to be exposed to for anything other than trigger material
 

Transistor

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Oct 25, 2017
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I thought this game was banned on ERA.
Nope. This is the list of banned games from the FAQ:

  • Dungeon Travelers 2: The Royal Library
  • Gal Gun
  • Hatred
  • Huniepop
  • Monster Monpiece
  • Negligee: Love Stories
  • Omega Labyrinth Z
  • Senran Kagura Burst Re:Newal
  • Shinobi Refle: Senran Kagura
  • Super Seducer: How to Talk to Girls
  • Super Seducer 2
  • Tits N Tanks
  • Mary Skelter 2
 

Zukuu

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I never understood the general problems with DoA. Why can't sexy games exist? Y'all pretend the porn industry isn't one of the biggest on earth? Sex is a natural, human thing so why not have it in games that are appropriately age restricted?

I don't follow the series but upon looking up Marie Rose, she at least doesn't look younger than say, Kasumi or anybody else. So where is that minor thing coming from? Is her age confirmed somewhere?
 

Rickenslacker

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Oct 25, 2017
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This isn't really much of a new low although I'm on board with feeling pretty skeevy with DOA ever since the inclusion of Marie Rose. Some anime girl cheesecake is whatever, but adding her is pandering to an audience that adds some real discomfort when I just wanna see balloon boobs have minds of their own and jiggle about.

Anyways, as for a new low, I wouldn't really call it as much. VV is for Asian regions only IIRC, and lolicon pandering weirdness is nothing new there.
 

RM8

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I never understood the general problems with DoA. Why can't sexy games exist? Y'all pretend the porn industry isn't one of the biggest on earth? Sex is a natural, human thing so why not have it in games that are appropriately age restricted?

I don't follow the series but upon looking up Marie Rose, she at least doesn't look younger than say, Kasumi or anybody else. So where is that minor thing coming from? Is her age confirmed somewhere?
Marie Rose acts and dresses like a toddler, the developers know exactly what they're doing. She throws tantrums toddler style, she has childish swimsuits (one of them with a pattern of unripe strawberries, go figure).
 

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I don't follow the series but upon looking up Marie Rose, she at least doesn't look younger than say, Kasumi or anybody else. So where is that minor thing coming from? Is her age confirmed somewhere?
They might somehow look old enough to you, but to most people (myself included), this is what a child looks like:

There are two of those characters. Nyotengu, who is definitely depicted as mature. The more ambiguous one is Kanna, who is 1014 but she looks like this:
The "some adults look young like that" argument doesn't hold much water for 2 reasons.
1. A lot of similar games sadly do sexualize (more) explicitly child-like characters (both in appearance and behavior).
2. The game does nothing whatsoever to my knowledge to alleviate the notion that this is a child and not a petite adult
 
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Ganado

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How do you guys even find out about shit like this? Is it maybe someones guilty pleasure?
 

ZeoVGM

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I never understood the general problems with DoA. Why can't sexy games exist?
That isn't what most people are saying. Perhaps read the thread? It's very clear what the main issue is.

I don't follow the series but upon looking up Marie Rose, she at least doesn't look younger than say, Kasumi or anybody else.
You're either naive or lying to be argumentative.
 

Tohsaka

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hardly surprising since it's just a nonce game. I don't even know how they keep making them they can't sell that many, surely. Maybe someone from sales-era knows? that's their thing.
This is a f2p gacha game. They make all their money selling swimsuits and new characters.

Are there minors in DOA?
No. A lot of people think Marie Rose looks underage, but none of the characters are under 18 in their profiles.
 

PCPace

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Probably cuz Japan society is sexually repressed. So they get it from their media.
This is kind of a harmful generalization of Japanese society. This series and other similar media are not representative of Japan as a whole, they are a niche product for a niche audience. Please be careful in generalizations of an entire country's culture based on anecdotal evidence.

Japan has problems with depictions of women and women's rights issues, and even ones unique to them, but so does literally everywhere. This particular example is not a fair representation.