Does Apex kill Anthem?

How does the success of Apex affect your outlook on Anthem?

  • I like Apex and I'm still hyped for Anthem

    Votes: 321 20.8%
  • I didn't care for Apex and I'm getting Anthem

    Votes: 174 11.3%
  • I like Apex and am staying away from Anthem for now

    Votes: 748 48.6%
  • Waiting for Anthem reviews and Digital Foundry testing to see if frame rates improved

    Votes: 297 19.3%

  • Total voters
    1,540
Oct 25, 2017
4,166
Not really. One is PVP and the other is PVE. People can easily play both.
There's only so many hours people have devoted to gaming. Saying they technically can play both means nothing if they're going to use all their free time on one. World of Warcraft is an MMO, but I garuantee you it zapped a lot of money from other genres/games that they would have spent on otherwise. These are both high profile mutliplayer shooters, some people don't care about the distinction they just want their shooter fix with the friends.
 
Oct 27, 2017
183
There's only so many hours people have devoted to gaming. Saying they technically can play both means nothing if they're going to use all their free time on one. World of Warcraft is an MMO, but I garuantee you it zapped a lot of money from other genres/games that they would have spent on otherwise. These are both high profile mutliplayer shooters, some people don't care about the distinction they just want their shooter fix with the friends.
It was also a game that offered pvp and pve, and required a great deal of time and effort in both aspects to remain competitive. I don't really see any reason why someone with say, 10 hours of gaming time a week wouldn't be able to play both these games without much worry of falling behind.
 
Nov 10, 2017
226
The option on the vote for me would have included tired of battle royal games. Waiting to see how Division 2 and Anthem turn out independent of what digital foundry says. I don't mind no pvp in anthem, but I can't imagine there will be enough pve content to keep people there.
 
Oct 25, 2017
873
There's only so many hours people have devoted to gaming. Saying they technically can play both means nothing if they're going to use all their free time on one. World of Warcraft is an MMO, but I garuantee you it zapped a lot of money from other genres/games that they would have spent on otherwise. These are both high profile mutliplayer shooters, some people don't care about the distinction they just want their shooter fix with the friends.
Thats the way i see it, entertainment money and time is limited. And f2p multiplat games have an enormous advantage when it comes to getting friends to play with each other.
 
Apex is a completely different game for a different audience. The Division 2 is the one Anthem needs to watch out for the most; it comes out just three weeks afterwards, and has the advantage of being a sequel to a game whose gameplay/mechanics have been honed considerably over the course of its lifespan.
 
Oct 25, 2017
873
It was also a game that offered pvp and pve, and required a great deal of time and effort in both aspects to remain competitive. I don't really see any reason why someone with say, 10 hours of gaming time a week wouldn't be able to play both these games without much worry of falling behind.
Do many ‘gamers’ play more than one game at a time? I dont.
 
Nov 17, 2017
157
Apex is a completely different game for a different audience. The Division 2 is the one Anthem needs to watch out for the most; it comes out just three weeks afterwards, and has the advantage of being a sequel to a game whose gameplay/mechanics have been honed considerably over the course of its lifespan.
Have you read any of the comments in this thread? That argument doesn't stand.
 
Oct 31, 2017
12
Everything battles for your attention. Games are different, but how much time will be consumed by one over the other? The two different styles (pvp vs pve) attract different crowds, but that venn diagram overlaps quite a bit. They are not exclusive. I'll probably be going 70/30 Anthem/Apex.
 
Oct 28, 2017
409
They'll be some overlap, but for the most part they're different games going after different audiences.

I've gotten less interested with competitive multiplayer games over time, while I've grown more interest in co-op titles and single-player. I'll give Apex Legends a shot sometime this week, but I'm not really expecting much from it. Anthem though I liked quite a bit, and will be a thing I can play with my friends. I'd rather fly around like iron-man than play another battle royale game.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,727
Tuscaloosa, AL
There's only so many hours people have devoted to gaming. Saying they technically can play both means nothing if they're going to use all their free time on one. World of Warcraft is an MMO, but I garuantee you it zapped a lot of money from other genres/games that they would have spent on otherwise. These are both high profile mutliplayer shooters, some people don't care about the distinction they just want their shooter fix with the friends.
Anthem isn’t going to have anywhere near the content or replayability that something like WoW would have. There’s not going to be enough either way to seriously hurt anthem. Anthem is being hurt by a laundry list of other reasons.
 
Oct 26, 2017
1,451
Curious. Are there Apex commercials blazing right now? I've seen a ton of Anthem commercials lately. Maybe marketing will keep Anthem afloat or with early access coming up, if it comes out the gates looking good, it could change people's mind about the state of the game. BioWare seems to be aggressive with post launch content.
 
Oct 27, 2017
183
Do many ‘gamers’ play more than one game at a time? I dont.
Sure? Why not? The only thing preventing you from doing so is personal choice. Right now I'm playing through the KH series, splatoon 2 mp, and have been messing around in a little bit of division 1 with a couple friends.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,464
What does one have to do with the other?

A third person PVE only mech loot grind game vs. an FPS pvp BR game..? what?

Can we ask if Apex is affecting peoples' Sekiro hype while we're at it?
 
Oct 27, 2017
183
What does one have to do with the other?

A third person PVE only mech loot grind game vs. an FPS pvp BR game..? what?

Can we ask if Apex is affecting peoples' Sekiro hype while we're at it?
This is what gets me, why aren't there threads asking if apex cut KH3s sales short? Or if it killed Red Dead Onlines community? Hell, wouldn't Apex be just as damaging to destiny and the division 2 as it is to anthem?
 
Oct 27, 2017
604
New York, NY
Curious. Are there Apex commercials blazing right now? I've seen a ton of Anthem commercials lately. Maybe marketing will keep Anthem afloat or with early access coming up, if it comes out the gates looking good, it could change people's mind about the state of the game. BioWare seems to be aggressive with post launch content.
The marketing push should definitely help. Though the first few times I heard that commerical I had to do a double take in my head that they weren't talking about Apex.
 
Oct 27, 2017
327
I don’t enjoy Battle Royale games so Apex was never really for me. I wish Anthem was s single player game with optional Co-Op but as a whole it holds greater appeal to me.

I wish I could understand the fervor around BR games, but I just find them boring.
 
Oct 25, 2017
512
I'm struggling to think of any GaaS games I DIDN'T regret buying at full price, so Anthem is gonna be a no from me until it matures a bit - Apex certainly helps fill the time, but isn't a huge factor
 

nss

Member
Apr 10, 2018
70
I wish I hadn’t preordered Anthem. I wanted a game to keep me occupied til Sekiro and figured Anthem will be good enough to do that with nothing else really enticing me right now. Now I have effectively zero interest in Anthem (unless it somehow reviews in the 90’s) as I found my game to tide me over.

Sure EA got my money, but it’s being redirected to the wrong studio, I’d much rather that money go to Respawn.
 
Oct 25, 2017
25
For people like me who work with time for one game it hurts. I’m not going to invest in anthem when I could be improving my shooting in apex ahead of a battle pass release in March. I can’t speak for everyone but it’s the safe choice now that games are released a year early. I can already see the kotaku article a year from now about how much anthem has changed since the release date and how it’s a perfect time to jump back in.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,545
Anthem will live or die of its own accord. A free-to-play, first person Battle Royale game will probably have very little to do with it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
498
Not for me, but I haven't been good at PVP shooters for several years now. PVP has been my least favorite part of shooters ever since I quit playing Counter-Strike 1.6. I enjoyed my time in Apex but I was below average and don't have the time or desire to try and improve.

Anthem being PVE only and loot-centric are potential selling points for me. Early word of mouth from beta testers is giving me pause, but not Apex.
 
Oct 30, 2017
972
I don't think those 2 games for the majority share the same playerbase/interest at all.

It rather would actually help imo if people use their Origin on PC now more and see the subscription model EA is offering where you can test out Anthem and all other games for kinda cheap.

I will play probably both.
Apex is just a side game with no real progression or even an Elo System that gives you good matchmaking because i can play in one game against Shroud and in the next one against people playing like they use a WiiMote.
Its more a game to mess around in like all BR Games where the outcome doesn't matter.

Anthem is a LootShooter RPG with Progression and Endgame Raiding where investment and engagement for people that intend to play longer(i will quit once DMC5 is out) is key to getting somewhere and not being left behind.
 
Oct 25, 2017
9,722
Kill Anthem? Nah. But EA dropping a hot triple-A shooter days before Anthem is not gonna help it, that's for sure. They may be different games but one of the core design elements of today's GAAS shooters is player engagement. A lot of people are addicted to Apex and many will not want to drop that for Anthem.
 
Nov 13, 2017
276
I think there is a possibility of Anthem being DOA because of Apex, but then again, I thought Anthem would perform very bad before Apex came out.

A bit confusing of why EA released Apex at this point in time.
 
Feb 10, 2018
7,651
I think it was pretty dumb releasing the games so close.
While the games are different, they are still squad based shooters that do attract the same audience.
 
Dec 29, 2017
223
The biggest problem Anthem has now is the fact it cost £50. Surely lots of gamers are now questioning why 1 game is free and another is going to cost them.
 
Oct 29, 2017
312
Do many ‘gamers’ play more than one game at a time? I dont.
I play 3-4 I suppose.

Right now I have a Civ 6 game on the go (this is the only constant)
Apex a shed load load on the PC
Ass Creed Odyssey on the Xbox X downstairs
Will start up anthem in a couple of days too

So yep!

And to answer the topic nahhh - for me personally they are totally different types of things. Anthem I am hoping will scratch my diablo itch I always have. Apex is something different entirely I didn't realise I even still had within me.
 
Oct 28, 2017
1,018
Do many ‘gamers’ play more than one game at a time? I dont.
Yes? I thought this was the norm. Hell, I juggle maybe 10 different games a week.

There was a decision on here maybe last year where I realized that most only play one game at a time which isn't something I've ever done, going back to the days of the C64.
 
Oct 29, 2017
4,621
IMO Yes, they got in too late, trying to go after the "Destiny" style of mp game expecting the audience to be huge + stay around, and now that Fortnite and things have come on the scene and then EA literally just dropped a new BR game that has gained a massive audience I think it absolutely did hurt Anthems chances of catching the mp shooter audience.

There's still gonna be plenty of people that will play it at release, but I expect it to drop off fairly soon while the numbers on Apex go up.

I don't know why EA would release a game so close to another game knowing it might affect its sales, didn't they do that with Titanfall 2 releasing near BF1 and shit?
 
Oct 28, 2017
1,033
MK | UK
I think Anthem seemed pretty dead with or without Apex

I've really seen no one actually be excited about it, just curious I guess
This site has been pretty lively with hype for it, especially around the recent private and public betas.

It's an odd poll. The option "I like Apex and I'm staying away from Anthem for now" doesn't suggest there's any causality there. You could both like Apex and be staying away from Anthem for a variety of reasons unrelated to eachother.

It really doesn't mean Apex is "killing" Anthem.