Yeah the responses in this thread are crazy weird..I play both types of games and am not alone...Netflix said recently they are more effected by Fortnite then like competition...People only have so many hours, could see an impact imo.
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Does Apex kill Anthem?
- Thread starter GUNDAM STARDUST
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Totally understand. The poll though... I think there may be more impact than you think
I don't see this as having any impact whatsoever on Anthem's sales, but I do see a lot of people making a false connection between *poor* Anthem sales (if it sells poorly) and the release of Apex.
One is a competitive multiplayer BR game that is F2P (meaning, it's not even taking money out of peoples' wallets), and the other is a cooperative looter shooter with no competitive aspect whatsoever.
The only thing they will compete for is peoples' time.
One is a competitive multiplayer BR game that is F2P (meaning, it's not even taking money out of peoples' wallets), and the other is a cooperative looter shooter with no competitive aspect whatsoever.
The only thing they will compete for is peoples' time.
Yeah but there's also different people with different interests. I don't think the people who are so into Apex they'll dump a ton of money into it are the same people that'll buy Anthem day 1.
No. They're different games. Don't think you can directly compare a PVP FPS and a PVE TPS. They both scratch a different itch.
True, but some people like both.
And there is only so much time you can play a games.
That's the problem for me.
I would love Anthem, but now i rather wait until the controls feel better on PC.
Or hope i get it cheap on Xbox later. But I'm now against my initial plan of subscribing to Origin Access Premier for the early access on PC.
They scratch very different itches. Cool loot game with no PVP vs a PVP battle Royale game.
I like Apex alright and will still get Anthem if it reviews ok and some friends get it.
I like Apex alright and will still get Anthem if it reviews ok and some friends get it.
GaaS by design is about retaining players, incentivizing sticking with one game instead of moving on. It's not a complete overlap, there are obviously people who just want PvE or PvP but they're both games geared toward playing with friends and I doubt there will be many people trying to keep up with both.
How the fuck does a PvP BR kill a PvE looter shooter? They're in almost completely different spaces.
I'm playing Anthem to explore a world, experience a story, and be a mecha wizard. For me, the appeal is very different between the two games. But we all only have limited time, so I do understand the concern. I personally just don't view them in the same manner.
Also for me (maybe not true for the general populace), I have no issue with picking up one of the games later. Even if I'm too busy to play one at launch, I wouldn't worry about trying it out later. (I get that for multiplayer-dependent games, being there at launch is a good time to play, so maybe I'm approaching this in the wrong way.)
Also for me (maybe not true for the general populace), I have no issue with picking up one of the games later. Even if I'm too busy to play one at launch, I wouldn't worry about trying it out later. (I get that for multiplayer-dependent games, being there at launch is a good time to play, so maybe I'm approaching this in the wrong way.)
It wont kill it thats Bioware and EA´s job but its gonna take a good chunk away from it thats for sure.
I don't think Apex completely killed hype for Anthem - as the beta for Anthem did a very solid job of kneecapping my interest on it's own. Slow combat, awful UI, and uninspired visuals just gave me nothing to latch onto. It's the perpetual boredom of Destiny, with the mild thrill of Bungie's combat completely excised.
You are missing the option "Was never interested in Anthem or BR games but now I like Apex" :)
I picked the third option.
I'm very anti-mp anti-fps usually but it's done well in apex. The ping system is a godsend for those of us that hate chat and voice in modern times.
I bought the founders pack a bit earlier today.
I picked the third option.
I'm very anti-mp anti-fps usually but it's done well in apex. The ping system is a godsend for those of us that hate chat and voice in modern times.
I bought the founders pack a bit earlier today.
Yeah, that was a bit of a shitpost — that's on me.
The choices pack so much assumed knowledge into them that it's hard to work out what the results will mean. Like, a "I'm waiting for reviews" option with no qualification, and/or a "I don't think this affected my excitement either way" option might give you a better picture of how people are feeling. Even if that's boring, it'll filter out all the people who don't really give a shit who might just pick an option for the hell of it (ie the "Thor dark world" choice).
It's a bit premature to even gauge Apex's ability to retain its own players, much less how it will impact Anthem. From personal experience Apex went from "wow fun!" to "over it" in less than a week. I know I won't be the only one. Additionally, we don't even know the overlap of audiences interested in both.
The only thing I know for sure is there's no way on hell Apex "kills" Anthem and can only conclude the title was made for clickbait.
The only thing I know for sure is there's no way on hell Apex "kills" Anthem and can only conclude the title was made for clickbait.
no. but the combination of Anthem and Apex kill Destiny 2. barely played it this month because of these games.
im sure Apex hurt division 2's beta. I forgot all about it. Crackdown in trouble...but that was always in trouble
im sure Apex hurt division 2's beta. I forgot all about it. Crackdown in trouble...but that was always in trouble
As an old man that occasionally yells at passing clouds I just can't get into basic BR gameplay loop cause well, I suck and die too much lol. So that being that, I don't care for the nature of waiting for current round to end for respawn inherent to BR games so Anthem appeals to me a lot more. Plus dat verticality is pretty sweet. In my limited time with Apex though it really is one of the best feeling shootbangs I've played, got that wonderful Titanfall DNA in it. The movement, performance, and responsivenss is just leagues above other stuff out there, I wish more games could capture Respawn's control model.
How have you clocked up over 100 hours in a week? Consider going outside from time to time.
My point is the audience for both games is completely different. The people who want a F2P BR aren't the same people that want a $60 loot shooter. Sure there is some overlap, but I don't think it's big enough to kill one game or the other.
Didn't even think about this, but yea, I've been in Origin a whole lot more lately (doubt I even opened it in 2018) due to Anthem and now Apex. I think they are two very different games. I'll play Apex for the competition, and Anthem for the loot grind.
IKR biased much?
But nah, Anthem and Apex have nothing in common...what a ridiculous question.
No it isn't.. I am in both games camp, as are a couple of my friends... Are you guys seriously arguing there is no over lap in these two games or that BR is 100% casuals?
I think it's easy to say that because they're kind of different genre, there's little crossover, but I think it's gonna hurt anthem in it's infancy. Fact is, most people just want a game to shoot and talk over at the same time, both Apex and Anthem serve that purpose. One is free and has a bunch of great press, while the other is $60 minimum and has had nothing but poor press, on top of a demo that performed terribly.
Lots of people are hostile to Anthem. It doesn't have much to do with Apex. Anthem's problem is that its demo was a big mess.
(And also that people here really hate Bioware and/or EA, but that's less relevant to the actual success of the game)
Makes sense that a competitive battle Royale FPS would take away from the same exact people as a cooperative PVE TPS looter shooter
I don't understand this. Positive user engagement across social media for Anthem is very high from everywhere I've looked from Twitter to Facebook to YouTube...
And Battlefield V is very active as well. Tons of people play it.
I liked the little I played of Apex but the game is def out of my league. Even the folks I usually play OW and WF with are wary of getting into Apex. We all aged into the comfort of Co-op and easier FPSs and everyone in my gaming group is looking forward to Anthem. So different target audiences, I believe.
I will jump late in the bandwagon though: Apex ping system needs to be replicated EVERYWHERE. It's better than mic comm, no more stoned or salty comments, just straight info.
I will jump late in the bandwagon though: Apex ping system needs to be replicated EVERYWHERE. It's better than mic comm, no more stoned or salty comments, just straight info.
I love Apex but I'm really hyped and excited for Anthem, there's just something about the gameplay, the mix between flying, feeling like Iron Man, the controls, the pretty graphics that is such an amazing experience for me. I played on PC with a controller and 60+ FPC mind you.
I had RE2Remake ready to play for that weekend but I spend all of it playing Anthem instead. I need to organize my time between Metro, Anthem and Apex and RL after the 15th.
I had RE2Remake ready to play for that weekend but I spend all of it playing Anthem instead. I need to organize my time between Metro, Anthem and Apex and RL after the 15th.
Anthem has actually been generating a ton of good press over the past month or so. The VIP demo was their first real misstep (and a substantial one).
Hell, even YouTube comments are positive for Anthem.
The mentality these days that a game most be blowing up and if doesnt the game is dead is so weird. Like there is not middle road.
It will take away some Sales from Anthem for sure. Not sure of how much Twitch contributes to sales but I assure you, no one is dumping Apex for Anthem atleast for the next month. So, Anthem's first week sales will be soft.
Also, the MP Beta didn't really impress a lot of people, reaction was mixed which will also make its launch sales weaker.
For Bioware's sake, I hope it reviews and sells great.
Nah. Competitive shooters and loot shooters are very different things. There will probably be some overlap that gets people to shift priorities, but I don't think it's some sort of deathknell for one or the other.
The only thing that can kill Anthem is Anthem.
The only thing that can kill Anthem is Anthem.
Third-person games make for pretty bad FPSes, to be fair.
It's completely killed any interest I had in Anthem or Division 2. Having too much fun with Apex right now to drop $60 on either game.
I'm not saying there is no overlap. I'm simply saying it's not big enough to hurt Anthem or Apex.
Destiny and The Division are far bigger threats to Anthem than Apex is. The majority of the people who are gonna buy Anthem day one and buy microtransactions are gonna be people who like loot shooters, not Battle Royal fans.
