2/7 is when Cohen testifies before congress. Nobody outside of Mueller's office has any idea when his report will be finished, regardless of any reporting you may hear on the matter.
Ahh thank you. That'll be something to see either way.
2/7 is when Cohen testifies before congress. Nobody outside of Mueller's office has any idea when his report will be finished, regardless of any reporting you may hear on the matter.
You are right. I was wondering how Trump and his followers would spin this but they have. They are attacking the credibility of Buzzfeed saying people go there to find out if martians are real not news. We need another big news organization to corroborate this to deliver the final dagger otherwise this will be another dossier.
Lol yep.Lol, some of you have the patience of a gnat. Of course they're going to spin, it's their only move left. The 24-hour news cycle was a mistake.
Lol, some of you have the patience of a gnat. Of course they're going to spin, it's their only move left. The 24-hour news cycle was a mistake.
Plenty of you are panicking at the thought of Republicans and Trump spinning this when it ultimately doesn't matter. If Mueller's report comes out with undeniable proof of several crimes being committed, it won't be up to voters. It's a criminal matter, not a political one.
Congress can 100% see the real one. They have subpoena power. The general public is a different story.I hope this isnt from the wh. Is t
That report -- can be modified/held back by the AG though, i saw in the OT.
Also, congress might not see the classified version?
Can someone let me know If i read shit wrong?
What about the AG modifying the report? Aint that legal for them to do? Mueller has to hand it into the AG right?
What about the AG modifying the report? Aint that legal for them to do? Mueller has to hand it into the AG right?
He still can't edit the original and let's be real only Trump is dumb enough to try to edit out incriminating info.What about the AG modifying the report? Aint that legal for them to do? Mueller has to hand it into the AG right?
If they subpoena Mueller himself and ask him to testify it doesn't really matter what the AG does, right?
I don't know. Thats why I was asking about the AG's power over the situation. That all sounds like a vastly longer process, which we will probably have to go through because Agent Orange is a fuckstain.
How does Trump get charged via muellers report ultimately? Whenever the truth surfaces. Who is going to bring charges for say conspriacy/etc? The House? or the Senate? Or .. the FBI? I mean how does that go down.
The house impeach the president, the senate then 'passes' the impeachment. Gop has the majority in the senate. They won't impeach Trump.
except the justice department is of the opinion it's unconstitutional to indict the sitting president so in the end it's a political matter. if trump were to win a second term he may even outrun the statute of limitations on some things.Plenty of you are panicking at the thought of Republicans and Trump spinning this when it ultimately doesn't matter. If Mueller's report comes out with undeniable proof of several crimes being committed, it won't be up to voters. It's a criminal matter, not a political one.
It's still a pretty huge dealThe house impeaches the president, the senate then 'passes' the impeachment. Gop has the majority in the senate. They won't impeach Trump.
Removal will only be possible under impeachment if enough Republicans break rank and side with the Democrats.
The house impeaches the president, the senate then 'passes' the impeachment. Gop has the majority in the senate. They won't impeach Trump.
They could impeach him right now if they wanted. They're waiting for Mueller to finish because until Mueller's report is out, it's a blindly partisan move, even despite the many, many justifications for it.
Once the Mueller report comes out, if it has enough evidence of criminal wrongdoing, the impeachment will be much easier and some Republicans will likely be forced to break ranks with McConnell and Trump to save themselves. Removal will only be possible under impeachment if enough Republicans break rank and side with the Democrats.
Alternatively, they can just throw it to the state level and let New York throw the book at him.
The house impeaches the president, the senate then 'passes' the impeachment. Gop has the majority in the senate. They won't impeach Trump.
If the republican party wins again, he's gonna get pardoned by the next president. There's just no way he's gonna (fully) pay for these crimes. Don't get your hopes up. Look at Nixon.Fuck impeachment. How about the crimes we all know he is guilty of? The Senate is not going to impeach him, they are traitors. So the crimes, how is he going to be held responsible for them.
Can they do this even if McConnell doesn't break rank? What if he says, "I and many Americans believe the President is above the law, and should be allowed to kill children in the White House if he wants to. I'm not allowing an impeachment."
Can the other Republicans bypass him, or does he basically control the Senate?
Fuck impeachment. How about the crimes we all know he is guilty of? The Senate is not going to impeach him, they are traitors. So the crimes, how is he going to be held responsible for them.
For one the the investigation is still going on.Why is it any time these threads happen, people get upset at people for saying nothing is going to happen. Then when a week goes by and when nothing has happened, another story pops up and its the same shit all over again.
It's almost like people forgot about the dozen's of other controversies that were sure to take down trump over the last 2 years....We get it. Trump is corrupt. We all knew this from day one.
The fuck. Nobody has corroborated McClatchy's reporting on Cohen and he himself has denied it repeatedly post-indictment. Corroboration matters. Especially when one of the authors has a checkered past.
Honestly, is there any reason to trust Mueller more than any other Never Trump Republican? Like, maybe he'd have a little more sympathy toward trump than Trump deserves because he's a lot more like a generic republican than the drama surrounding him might suggest. I mean, this is Bush's 9/11 FBI director who's done a lot more to hide information from the public in that situation.
I don't think he'd ever purposefully run interference for Trump, but maybe he wouldn't hurry to finish the report in time for anything political to be done about it, or give trump the benefit of the doubt to not include some incriminating things and leave obvious outs for Trump, or not give that much of a fight to Barr burying the worst stuff. It's not like all those furled eyebrows from other republicans toward Trump are fake either, it's just you're a lot more likely you end it there when you overall see him as an ally more than an enemy.
I feel much safer letting the media and democrats handle the problem that only has a political solution that republicans will likely always oppose.
At this point I think they could have him on tape shooting someone and the McConnell Mafia would still have his back.They will if the evidence is overwhelming and as horrible as expected. Just like Nixon.
You read it right. That was the concern raised with Barr.That report -- can be modified/held back by the AG though, i saw in the OT.
Also, congress might not see the classified version?
Can someone let me know If i read shit wrong?
The point of having any right-of-the-political-spectrum people on the side of justice and the rule of law is how to avoid this being bogged down into partisan accusations.
The "11-13-17 Angry Democrats" or "Still mad Hillary lost" ring a bell? It's Individual Ones last redoubt of spinning this as a political play and not him being above the law. Having GOP/independant join with but not take the side of Dems/liberals is excellent.
Whoa there buddy. First, let's not throw the term traitor willy nilly. Second, it the Republicans in the senatFuck impeachment. How about the crimes we all know he is guilty of? The Senate is not going to impeach him, they are traitors. So the crimes, how is he going to be held responsible for them.
At this point I think they could have him on tape shooting someone and the McConnell Mafia would still have his back.
Unless the base turns on Trump, of course. But that's a big "if." Even if we find blatant corruption (and I think we will) his base will likely just shrug it off and say "Everyone takes money for favors, that's just how it is."
Impeachment and removal doesn't seem like the likely path. However if he's facing an unwinnable election and the possibility of serious criminal charges when he becomes a civilian, he may opt to step down to get the Pence pardon or risk the wrath of a democrat-appointed justice department.
Michael Del Moro @MikeDelMoro
When pressed by Chuck Todd just now to confirm or deny, Lanny Davis says Cohen told him that they're not going to comment on the BuzzFeed story. Davis does say that Cohen said the story did not come from Cohen.
Michael Del Moro @MikeDelMoro
Davis says "I cannot answer that" when asked if there are other crimes (not yet public) which Cohen committed that the President directed him to do.
Katie Rayford @katie_rayford
When pressed about Mueller's filing and why the information in @BuzzFeedNews' new bombshell investigation wasn't in it, Lanny Davis continued: "The absence of something doesn't always infer something...we know that Mr. Mueller did not disclose everything in his filings..."
Meet the Press @MeetThePress
WATCH: Cohen's advisor, Lanny Davis, responds to Buzzfeed report: 'The story stands on its own' #MTPDaily
I think his base of idiot voters will back him no matter what. But the politicians in Washington? Nope. While there are a few that would fall on a sword for Trump, I think most secretly can't stand him. If that tide has a valid reason to turn on him I think they will. They are all weak, it wouldn't even be that hard.At this point I think they could have him on tape shooting someone and the McConnell Mafia would still have his back.
Unless the base turns on Trump, of course. But that's a big "if." Even if we find blatant corruption (and I think we will) his base will likely just shrug it off and say "Everyone takes money for favors, that's just how it is."
Impeachment and removal doesn't seem like the likely path. However if he's facing an unwinnable election and the possibility of serious criminal charges when he becomes a civilian, he may opt to step down to get the Pence pardon or risk the wrath of a democrat-appointed justice department.
Given how quickly some of them started sucking up to him when he got the nomination - after, you know, accusing their fathers of plotting murders and calling their wives ugly - they'll go wherever the wind is going, regardless. They have no loyalty to him or anyone else. So we'll see...I think his base of idiot voters will back him no matter what. But the politicians in Washington? Nope. While there are a few that would fall on a sword for Trump, I think most secretly can't stand him. If that tide has a valid reason to turn on him I think they will. They are all weak, it wouldn't even be that hard.
Yup exactly. They are all opportunistic leaches. Right now Trump still has enough control to keep them at bay. But as soon as all these illegal things come out as facts with real proof... they'll know he's done and flee for the exits.Given how quickly some of them started sucking up to him when he got the nomination - after, you know, accusing their fathers of plotting murders and calling their wives ugly - they'll go wherever the wind is going, regardless. They have no loyalty to him or anyone else. So we'll see...
lol
Evan Rosenfeld @Evan_Rosenfeld
Fox News: @greggutfeld says it "doesn't matter" if BuzzFeed report that Trump ordered Michael Cohen to lie to Congress is true (ignoring 18 U.S.C. § 2b): "It doesn't matter if the story is true or not. Because it was originally about collision & it's not even about that anymore"
It's absolutely an insane argument. Like someone being investigated for insurance fraud and in the course of the investigation they find out the person has murdered several people. But nah, no insurance fraud so all good, carry on. That's just not how things work.But it literally is. He was instructed to lie about the meeting to cover up collusion.
It's amazing how blatant and easily refuted their "arguments" are. They're not even trying anymore.
lol
Evan Rosenfeld @Evan_Rosenfeld
Fox News: @greggutfeld says it "doesn't matter" if BuzzFeed report that Trump ordered Michael Cohen to lie to Congress is true (ignoring 18 U.S.C. § 2b): "It doesn't matter if the story is true or not. Because it was originally about collision & it's not even about that anymore"
It's absolutely an insane argument. Like someone being investigated for insurance fraud and in the course of the investigation they find out the person has murdered several people. But nah, no insurance fraud so all good, carry on. That's just not how things work.
Old Republicans are not the same as Today's Republicans.Why were the Republicans able to impeach Nixon, but they refuse to impeach Trump?
Like I try to follow US news but I can't think of why they wouldn't? Are they afraid of losing the Trump base, because whatever corrupt garbage they want to peddle, I'm sure Pence can do too.
Why were the Republicans able to impeach Nixon, but they refuse to impeach Trump?
Like I try to follow US news but I can't think of why they wouldn't? Are they afraid of losing the Trump base, because whatever corrupt garbage they want to peddle, I'm sure Pence can do too.
Why were the Republicans able to impeach Nixon, but they refuse to impeach Trump?
Like I try to follow US news but I can't think of why they wouldn't? Are they afraid of losing the Trump base, because whatever corrupt garbage they want to peddle, I'm sure Pence can do too.
Why were the Republicans able to impeach Nixon, but they refuse to impeach Trump?
Like I try to follow US news but I can't think of why they wouldn't? Are they afraid of losing the Trump base, because whatever corrupt garbage they want to peddle, I'm sure Pence can do too.
Why were the Republicans able to impeach Nixon, but they refuse to impeach Trump?
Like I try to follow US news but I can't think of why they wouldn't? Are they afraid of losing the Trump base, because whatever corrupt garbage they want to peddle, I'm sure Pence can do too.