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Donald Trump portrayed as a figure of fun just makes me want to die

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I saw someone on my facebook promoting a comedian friend's one man show in which he plays a "hilarious spitting image of Donald Trump". I have seen Baldwin's SNL routines portraying Trump. There was an advert for cable TV in the UK that had an animated Trump giving it the "This cable TV network is the best, believe me, trust me, it's the best" routine.

Is it just me that does NOT find Trump to be a figure of fun? He is a monster. Am I supposed to be like "lolololol he separated thousands of young children permanently from their parents and left them confused and alone in cages lololol". I just don't find this shit funny any more. There's nothing amusing about him AT ALL. He certainly isn't an amusing caricature to sell cable TV with.
 
takriel

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That's what they want you to think. Belittlement.
 
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Jonnax

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Yeah, he doesn't care that you laugh at him.
He's in power, and he can say whatever he wants.
 
jaekeem

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I mean you can hate and make a joke out of him

They don't have to be mutually exclusive. It would be exhausting to dwell with a constant, humorless rage over all his bullshit
 
skipgo

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There's an aspect of acceptance and normalization in parodies that really rubs me the wrong way.
When some of the horrible things he says or does get boiled down to a punchline it detracts from some of his horrible actions and things he said and makes it digestible and funny instead of gut wrenching and revolting.
 
striderno9

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Throughout human history, artists of all types have been using their craft to speak out about tyranny. An artist might draw him as a monster, a musician makes a song about him, a comedian makes fun of him.
 
Melkezadek

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I've actually had to dial back late night talk shows because I can't even stand joking about this fuck anymore. People are suffering and I'm out of chuckles.
 
Shelbyville Milhouse

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Fact: Doing "The Trump voice" isn't funny anymore and stopped being funny like a month after he won.
Make fun of him in another way, preferably without infering that he is gay, thanks.
 
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skipgo said:
There's an aspect of acceptance and normalization in parodies that really rubs me the wrong way.
When some of the horrible things he says or does get boiled down to a punchline it detracts from some of his horrible actions and things he said and makes it digestible and funny instead of gut wrenching and revolting.
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I think you nailed part of my problem. It's the normalization. If a political point is being made and a piece is satirical, i get why a work exists... But if it's just an amusing voice to get laughs or sell a product, then that's not right at all.
 
Ravelle

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It was funny the first couple months but then Trump himself became a parody of himself.

But yeah, the trump impressions were all over the place, on every comedy show, every late night host show, skit shows etc. It got old super fast.
 
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They don't tell about all the terrible stuff in foreign media. He is definitely portrayed as a complete idiot.
 
Gakidou

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Yep i totally feel you on this. People say making fun of him is what he hates, and i'm sure that's true, but at the same time a lot of the fanfare clearly benefits him.

Though he hates mockery, he never really asks to be taken seriously either. He, or at least his marketing, clearly plays into the idea that hes "fun", an entertainer, shameless liberator of taboos and some all-american dreamer and party lover wherever it might benefit him. Remember when he bought that stupid mcdonalds feast? I think a lot of his voters saw Trump as this rebellious choice that made a statement against traditional politics, putting a big theatrical "personality" in the seat of power instead.

But we can't just "oh, you!" away all this violation of human rights. Clowns are funny at a circus, they're not as funny in an operating theatre.
 
Kthulhu

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God_Of_Phwoar said:
I think you nailed part of my problem. It's the normalization. If a political point is being made and a piece is satirical, i get why a work exists... But if it's just an amusing voice to get laughs or sell a product, then that's not right at all.
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IMO Trump was normalized long before people started doing stand-up about him.
 
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God_Of_Phwoar said:
I saw someone on my facebook promoting a comedian friend's one man show in which he plays a "hilarious spitting image of Donald Trump". I have seen Baldwin's SNL routines portraying Trump. There was an advert for cable TV in the UK that had an animated Trump giving it the "This cable TV network is the best, believe me, trust me, it's the best" routine.

Is it just me that does NOT find Trump to be a figure of fun? He is a monster. Am I supposed to be like "lolololol he separated thousands of young children permanently from their parents and left them confused and alone in cages lololol". I just don't find this shit funny any more. There's nothing amusing about him AT ALL. He certainly isn't an amusing caricature to sell cable TV with.
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All presidents are parodied. Bush was the "lovable idiot" and he started an illegal war that changed the landscape of the region for quite some time.
 
lowmelody

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Things not only get desensitized with repeated banter and jokes but also it also puts it on the fast track to becoming passe with immediate normalization by ppl that otherwise hate him.

That's why I've never enjoyed the weak and feeble late night talk show jokes about him. Even though they were at his expense, the are usually the first low hanging fruit that is purposefully light enough for "All politics are bad" Steve not to change the channel.

Fascism isn't a genre of comedy. Unless it's packaged in measured doses. But then it's just poison.
 
DiceHands

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I agree. There was this comedy central cartoon show that they put the pilot out for that was a depiction of trump in the white house. It was actually pretty funny because it ripped on him and his family really hard (especially his sons).

But the problem was that it humanized trump too much. It showed him as a complete buffoon, but it didnt really leave the impact of how awful he is. I am pretty sure this is why they didnt make it a full series.
 
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It does seem like the media is complicit when they portray people like Trump and Boris like this. The media knows how to demonise people, it can do it just fine when its people they don't like, like the left, say they are consorting with terrorists, and communist etc and call them the devil.

But it seems like Trump get's away with it for some reason. He's stupid so he gets away with consorting with Russia, he's stupid so somehow he gets away with tearing children away from their families. He's stupid so he gets away with destroying the environment. You can be stupid and nasty and malevolent and a cunt. He's stupid so lets just laugh at him and all the evil shit he's done. And who's even the stupid one in this case, the one at the top laughing at everyone below him, or everyone below happily laughing and suffering under him.
 
Mr. X

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Anything that hurts his feelings is cool with me but yeah, mocking his speech is stale especially when Trump manages to speak worse than any parody of him can.
 
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At a base level, the only reason he has power is because people broadcast his bullshit. For people like this, even satire is a vehicle of sorts. I wish there was a way society could put him on mute and just get rid of him in the next election (which making sure he doesn't destroy everything while he is there).
 
Tedmilk

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I hate it too OP. It comes across to me like they're making light of the atrocities he commits - they're normalising his behaviour instead of drawing attention to how horrific it really is.
 

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I got to that point with W. for sure. I couldn't even watch the Daily Show make fun of him because I was so angry.
 
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Actually, what I hate most isn't people making fun of him (laughing at someone robs them of the fear and admiration they want), it's that he's permanently damaged the English language as a whole.
 
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I think there are strong paralels between this situation and movies like The Great Dictator.

This is particularly enlighting about the value of humor as a weapon:

During the film's production, the British government had announced that it would prohibit its exhibition in the United Kingdom, in keeping with its appeasement policy concerning Nazi Germany.[33] But by the time the film was released, the UK was at war with Germany and the film was welcomed in part for its obvious propaganda value.
 
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lowmelody said:
Things not only get desensitized with repeated banter and jokes but also it also puts it on the fast track to becoming passe with immediate normalization by ppl that otherwise hate him.
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Yup. Using comedy to point out the lies and crimes only lets him further ignore the accountability. It's all part of the "fake news" from his viewpoint.
 
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Robdraggoo said:
Oh yes he does. It's actually the only real thing that gets under his thin skin. He can't stand anyone making fun of him.
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I think he just ignores it. Or he is protected from it by his yes men and doesn't even see it. Trump and Republicans just ignore what they don't like, or just hand wave it off as nonsense or fake news. People are not getting under his skin as much as they hope.
 
Digital Dinosaur

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Trump is a unique problem because he was a celebrity target of mockery and ridicule for decades before he became a fascist political figure. Comedians have kept Trump jokes in their back pockets for a rainy day since the 80s.

Thus it is difficult to untangle regarding Trump as one big joke from seriously dangerous things Trump is doing. Even many people who hate Trump seem unable to really feel the gravitas in what Trump is doing as president.

I kind of think if Trump hadn't been such a joke already, satire of his political activities might have come across as more biting and eye-raising.
 

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Parch said:
I think he just ignores it. Or he is protected from it by his yes men and doesn't even see it. Trump and Republicans just ignore what they don't like, or just hand wave it off as nonsense or fake news. People are not getting under his skin as much as they hope.
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Have ever read a trump tweet?
 
Vonocourt

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Parch said:
I think he just ignores it. Or he is protected from it by his yes men and doesn't even see it. Trump and Republicans just ignore what they don't like, or just hand wave it off as nonsense or fake news. People are not getting under his skin as much as they hope.
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Dude was routinely tweeting about SNL for their weak ass jabs, even when it was a re-run.
 
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Comedy is a coping mechanism for dealing with all the shit in the world. If you don't like it, then go look at China, where they banned Winnie the Pooh because people were making jokes comparing him to their President.
 

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It's a form of appeasement. I don't like it, either.
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It's not appeasement. It's just another art form with there take on the current political climate. Happens im music, film, painting and all other art forms. Comedy has been used in America for this same purpose since the 1800s with cartoons in newspapers. And dating back to the Roman Empire.
 
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