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Ryo Hazuki

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I've seen this blowing up for the past day on Twitter and thought I'd make a thread on it. The biggest streamer on Twitch is getting some backlash for mocking Chinese players in his live streams by attempting to imitate their accent and language by making random sounds. It surfaced with the tweet below:




Mocking Asian accents is known as "Ching Chong" and people are calling out Dr Disrespect for doing this on his streams. The argument is it's incredibly impressionable to the young people watching him and obviously this could be harmful to Asians.

Here's an article about how harmful it is from NPR which features the author of the Tweet above: How 'Ching Chong' Became The Go-To Slur For Mocking East Asians

There's a longish Reddit thread going on about it here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Livestream...respect_gets_called_out_for_being_racist_for/

I found a video of Dr Disrespect addressing this in a video where he calls it his "hybrid language" and that Asian people at conventions come up to him and ask him to speak to them in "Chinese". You can see that here at 6:22 in:



Funnily enough in this same video he defends PewDiePie for using the N word by saying it was heat of the moment and that doesn't make him racist. Starts at about 2 minutes in:
A lot of the defensive comments are saying he's just playing a character so it's not racist. You can see some of the other responses in the Reddit and Twitter threads above.

Update: Dr Disrespect responds to the Tweets above on his live stream, calls him an "idiot" who is "desperate for attention" and "clueless":

https://clips.twitch.tv/LitigiousJollyJellyfishArgieB8
 
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Funnily enough in this same video he defends PewDiePie for using the N word by saying it was heat of the moment and that doesn't make him racist. Starts at about 2 minutes in:
A lot of the defensive comments are saying he's just playing a character so it's not racist. You can see some of the other responses in the Reddit and Twitter threads above.

I'd like to quote a post by Htown from the old board which I find is always applicable in these threads:

Racism is weird. Everybody knows it totally exists, but when you look at any specific situation, racism is never involved. You can know that it exists, but when you look for it, it turns into something else.

Racism is quantum locked. It doesn't exist when it's being observed. The moment it is seen by any living creature, it freezes into a coincidence.

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but it's not racist because some asian people say similarly-mocking things and at least one chinese person found it funny!

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Funnily enough in this same video he defends PewDiePie for using the N word by saying it was heat of the moment and that doesn't make him racist. .

And that's the only thing you need to know in order to make up your mind about this guy. Defending the weasel of PDP in this way after his racial slur became the de-facto echo chamber defense that all the racists and closeted racists in youtube used in order to justify it. Similar to southern rednecks defending confederate monuments because "it's the legacy".
 

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Has he done it this week since he's returned? Honest question. If he hasn't maybe it's something he's trying to clean up.

If he has then yeah this is a bad look.
 

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Yayyyy Face of Twitch getting thousands of dollars in a single stream ignoring Pewdiepie comments, being racist, annoying and teamkilling :D :D :D :D :D
 

PSqueak

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I for one im shocked that someone called Dr. Disrespect, working in a medium known for scummery, turned out to be disrespectful!
 

Noctis

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still boggles my mind someone donated 5000 to him the other day.. i wouldn't pay a streamer a cent to play or let alone to watch him play.
 

AxeVince

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His excuse sounds like "I have asian friends that laugh at this so it's okay" :/.
I don't think mocking someone for their accent is very constructive, and when you do it to entertain 12yo, they will probably imitate you in doing so, probably in worse situation which will make other people suffer.

Get your sh*t together Youtube/Twitch creators.
 

Virtua

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So hes trolling other players by speaking fake Chinese and pretending to be a Chinese player? What's the bit here?

I'm assuming it's because Chinese players have higher lag and Americans don't like playing against them..

I guess it's just like the Ugandan knuckles thing. Immature humor that's also probably harmful.
 

Nephtes

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Absolutely terrible.

On a related note, can we get people outside of the US to stop being culturalist towards us by putting on fake cowboy accents when imitating Americans? Most of us don't sound like we're from Texas...
Some of us sound like we came from Jersey.

I'm also looking at you fake Russian, Indian, and Boston accents... Consider yourselves on notice.
 

SageShinigami

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still boggles my mind someone donated 5000 to him the other day.. i wouldn't pay a streamer a cent to play or let alone to watch him play.

I feel like you wanting streaming to fail has zilch to do this thread.

Anyway, this is disappointing. I was actually wondering if the guy was good or not but...I guess not?
 
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Goddammit.

Stop expecting random assholes who somehow got famous playing video games on the internet to be paragons of virtue or even remotely self-aware. These are the same people who abuse and harass women and minorities over anonymous voice chat, they just ended up getting an audience where they can't do it anymore because they're not anonymous. Eventually, the mask cracks.

Stop looking up to these people.
 

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People should watch all the clips linked before driveby posting and defending this idiot this disrespect guy going too far and done it so many times it's ridiculous fuck him
 

Mahonay

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Man who behaves like an absolute asshat, to entertain 12 year olds online, mocks Chinese language. I'd be more surprised if this was something he didn't do.
 

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Can't say I've ever watched this guy, but I'm also an adult.

The Chinese stuff is a bad look but can we drop the narrative that watching streamers is only for kids? For a forum about videos games, something that took years to shake that stereotype, there sure are a lot of people here spouting that.
 
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He defended PDP a long time ago so it was well know he was terrible.
Still crashed twitch after ending his hiatus that started when he cheated on his wife
 

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I'm glad that I can truthfully say I have no idea who likes these idiots or why. I'm always surprised how intensely people love these spazzy pieces of shit. Annoying as hell.
 

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Surprised people take this seriously or think it has any affect on the life of any chinese speaker. People way too quick to call people racists which really dillutes the meaning.
 
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Because most people pretend to be good. Opinions and all obviously but I firmly believe most "good people" are just as big of racist hypocritical a-holes as anyone else.. they just are better at watching what they say unless it's around friends lol. I don't think all people are like that... But working in an area that is "highly" different in religious beliefs and backgrounds and races... Most people are exactly the same.. and mocking others religion or race is just a "joke" to them. And no.. they are not all just white racists... It's anyone
 

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The Chinese stuff is a bad look but can we drop the narrative that watching streamers is only for kids? For a forum about videos games, something that took years to shake that stereotype, there sure are a lot of people here spouting that.
I watch Twitch. But guys like DrDisrespect and PewdiePie have a very clear younger demographic.
 
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