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Pablo Mesa

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Nov 23, 2017
6,878
I really need to focus on finishing the silver/gold event rewards, but I can't be troubled to go beyond 3000 for gold and with Special raid's appearance being reduced so greatly, it's taking so long to grind more of them. I know the silver testaments are decently important so I'll probably finish off silver at the very least. I doubt I'll go the full 4500 for gold though.
At leadt you can solo Standar and noob raids
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
13,076
Actually finally made some more progress in golds while multitasking today (which is to say I just played a few minutes of another game between rounds...). I’m at 2k gold; pushing harder tomorrow should get me within reach... worst case Monday I’ll use some honey/dust to be safe. I’m still just kinda annoyed at myself for doing Standards early on because I’m at 700 silver, so reaching 3k gold will definitely get me past 1k, and meanwhile I’m not halfway done bronze so it would have been way more useful to have run that instead...
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
1,861
Since weekly reset is soon, decided to get the 3 HMS Weekly Chests now. Been raid grinding, and the release of Smash has made it a lot harder for me to dedicate as much time to Dragalia as usual. I can start that game up thinking I’ll play it just for 10 minutes or so, and then 4 hours pass, wasting a lot of potential Stamina/Wings because their full on both my accounts. Either way, decided to see if the HMS pug experience is any different compared to before the raid. Also, image posting isn’t working for me, so here‘s an imgur link of my 3 Clears.

HMS Weekly PUG Clears

1st Team Makeup was Vanessa and 2 Mikoto’s. Game was pretty straightforward. Vanessa has the role of “tanking” by getting the aggro of Midgard, so his spitballs and Tempest attacks would hit towards to wall and away from everyone else.

2nd Team Makeup was 3 Mikoto’s. Everyone was pretty overgeared, so it was completed really quickly.

3rd Team Makeup was Ezelith, Vanessa, and Mikoto. This was the hardest of the three, mainly because I had to keep using my 1st skill on the stunned Ezelith to make sure Tempests and spitballs wouldn’t kill them. I guarantee the run would have failed if a less geared/experienced Verica was playing, because there were multiple times I had to use my regen heal on Ezelith while everyone else was full health, and furiously rebuild my regen heal again before Midgard did more full team attacks. An Ezelith playing perfectly leads to fine runs, it’s just Ezelith’s who aren’t on top of their game who can lead to a lot of runs ending early, even if Vanessa/Euden/Mikoto take many more hits during a run.

Overall, the runs were fine, not too different from what I’m used to. I overgeared my Verica specifically for runs like my third clear, where I can essentially “heal” carry some teams to makeup for some lack of skill. Thankfully my skills haven’t gotten too dull from not doing HMS daily like before. I still personally find this content the most fun, and am definitely looking forward to the next High Dragon.
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
1,861
Now THAT'S a person who really loves playing Ezelith, and knows HMS timings perfectly with the way they use Howling Meteor to DPS and dodge every Overdrive Trident Tempests. It's like the Euden's who can Exalted Fire dodge, but to an even more absurd degree.
 

deathkiller

Member
Apr 11, 2018
318
Got a Dragon unbinding stone and can't decide whether I wanna use it on Agni or Cupid -_-
From GBF the general rule is that you don't use stones to unbind until you have enough to fully unbind the dragon since you don't know when you will get extra copies and the full unbind gives a very big buff.
 

deepFlaw

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,076
Listen, you don’t need to tell me about Smash, it’s almost 4 AM because of it...

somehow I actually played enough earlier that I didn't waste any energy, though of course now I have to quickly spend some wings on dailies...
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
1,861
Got all the Bronze and Silver Emblems on my F2P no pulls account without any stamina/wing regen items. I would have finished it off a lot sooner had Smash not come out.

Overall, it wasn’t too difficult. I didn’t manage to get no deaths or the epithet on EX, but I don’t really care about 10 wyrmite or the epithet since I don’t spend Wyrmite and epithets are just cosmetic. While there’s technically Gold Emblem reward for up 4.5K, 4.2K is the last with dragon fruit while 4.5K has exp crystals, which I already have an over abundance of. Since I’m literally 7 Gold Emblems away from 4.2K, I’ll just be doing the raid dailies and otherwise be done with the event on my alt and continue working on crafting my first 5* weapon, unless I find it particularly difficult to spend my wings.

Definitely looking forward to the next event, chapter, and above Master difficulties for my alt, while I’m looking forward to the next High Dragon on my main.
 

Ekid

Member
Dec 21, 2017
523
So tomorrow we should have some info about the next update/event and summon showcase (maybe only Tuesday for this one).

There was a theory on Reddit that the next event could be a collaboration with Daoko since her new album, that features her drawn in DL art style as a preorder bonus, comes out 12/12, right when the current event end.
It would also explains why there is no break between the end of the current event and the beginning of the next one.

Granted it would means no Christmas event until later in the month which would be weird, unless the Daoko event is shorter than usual.
 
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deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
13,076
The Daoko theory has felt weird to me cause it’s pretty arbitrary beyond the fact that the album was delayed to that date. I feel like that kind of thing is something they’d want to advertise and build up hype for in advance, because they could get her fans who don’t play DL interested in the game that way. So I expect her to show up as a unit eventually, just... not quite this time around. And maybe that’d be a “buy the CD for her” sort of thing anyway? GBF does that, doesn’t it? Or was that just character costumes...? I forget what people said about it.

Rather, I’d be happy with it happening now. I just think it’s much more likely the case that there’s no event, but instead cramming in a week with High Mercury + story before Christmas? Since we know that’s supposed to be the middle of this month (which, how, how does time pass this fast). I dunno what that means for what the showcase is, of course.
 

Ekid

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Dec 21, 2017
523
Chapter 7 is planned for the end of the year unlike the next high dragon trial which is mid-December, so probably not until after the Christmas event.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
13,076
Oh, huh, I hadn’t realized they weren’t planned for the same time. Though I guess that depends on how you interpret “the end of the year”. It would make sense to have both given how chapter 6 worked, but who knows. I guess we’re already just assuming it’ll be Mercury...

I guess the showcase could be like... rate ups on existing things of the element good against the dragon? But that could be weird; if it’s indeed Mercury, that’s kinda a repeat of Wind Bows Forever soon after the facility event...

it’s probably just a normal showcase that’s short just because, or something; we’ll know soon enough
 

Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
6,535
The more think about it the more I believe the DAOKO character might be a free unit, maybe released in a collaboration event before the Christmas banner. They probably won't make her a 5* because of this, but I can see them giving her away as a 4* to all players, and maybe have a simple story event to along with it.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
13,076
Did Special with Discord people so I was listening to a podcast during it. Did forget to get back to game audio so I had to wait at the end for lines to clear, which is usually fine, but this time...

it didn’t show me my rewards, just this, but I lost access so despite the message I think it maybe stole 100 gold from me, lol

I only had 10 blazion after; does special usually give more? If so, I did get nothing. If not, maybe I’m solid.
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
1,861
Did Special with Discord people so I was listening to a podcast during it. Did forget to get back to game audio so I had to wait at the end for lines to clear, which is usually fine, but this time...



it didn’t show me my rewards, just this, but I lost access so despite the message I think it maybe stole 100 gold from me, lol

I only had 10 blazion after; does special usually give more? If so, I did get nothing. If not, maybe I’m solid.
Just did an EX on my alt, only rewarded 10 Blazon, so I think you’re good.
 

LiQuid!

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Oct 26, 2017
2,583
Trying to pull the last bear dragon thing I need to max unbind and he's being so stubborn. Down to about 200 items left in the current draw pool w/ no bear and have gotten so sick of running this raid.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I’m ready for this event to be over lol. Hopefully they give us a big update on what’s to come, because this event I feel has sapped a lot of enthusiasm the game had.
 

Ahri

Lying PR
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
205
After playing approx 4/5h everyday a bit more than a month, and spend a decent amount of money, I didn't find the will to grind this event. Just want to auto-raid.

I sure hope the next events will offer a bit more variety...
 

Moara

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,098
5 copies to uncap a dragon is too much for how damn grindy blazon summons are. They really need to decrease the amount of filler there is in those, or just make the dragon rate higher. I've farmed a decent amount every day and I only have 3 copies. There's no way I'm getting the last 2.
 

mjc

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
3,008
Yeah I'm losing steam and interest farming this raid to try and get five copies of the event dragon.
 

Pablo Mesa

Banned
Nov 23, 2017
6,878
the problem this event for me was that the boss was too unbalanced (they make it a HP sponge) so farming him was a real pain in hte ass.

way more HP than previous bosses and no Damage WP
 

okita

Member
Oct 25, 2017
443
I got the Dragon MUB (he doesn't even have a place among my party lol), almost finished everything need only a few silver emblems , but yeah the copy paste and duration of the event is kinda bad we need new meaningful content ASAP

Edit: we got 500 wyrmite as gift nice :)
 
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Pablo Mesa

Banned
Nov 23, 2017
6,878
I got the Dragon MUB (he doesn't even have a place among my party lol), almost finished everything need only a few silver emblems , but yeah the copy paste and duration of the event is kinda bad we need new meaningful content ASAP

Edit: we got 500 wyrmite as gift nice :)
hopefully this month we get mega mercury. chapter 7 and the fabled Maze type event.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
13,076
I seriously hope they rethink the EX rate and how much HP the boss has.

I’ve still been able to end up sorta casually getting what I want (1k/1k/3k) right at the end again, or at least I’ll have that by when it ends tomorrow night, but it was more tedious this time. The EX change + the hosting change actually made raiding worse than it was with no gain to the player, and Sabnock is just boring to fight over and over.

At least with challenge battles it’s always snappy and I feel some sense of actual accomplishment every time when I get a great time. For raids, the boss attacks and learning what to do is neat at first, and then it just becomes hoping nobody else fucks up so badly that the fight takes even longer, which was particularly bad this time. Not to mention the waiting for people + the loading to get in...
 
May 1, 2018
563
Got the Twinkling Sand.

My desire to be efficient wants to get to at least 3600 golds since Expert gives a decent amount of silvers too, so that I don't grind Standard as much and get some succ fruit.

Honestly I do find this more boring than Challenge Battle, and Hypnos was kinda the same, just faster. In Challenge Battle, all the variables are in my control to get it as fast as possible. The problem is Challenge Battle events fuck up the stamina/wing balance, and are harder for newer players. I think they should change hosting to using wings just because then they can do all this event stuff that messes with the balance more freely.
 

Yari

Member
Oct 25, 2017
833
Glad im not the only one feeling that way. I lost all interest to grind this event pretty early on. Still dont know how I made it this far. Raids felt incredibly slow without the wyrnprint we are usually given. I know why they did it, but it definitely didn't make it more fun.
 
May 1, 2018
563
The boss has too much HP because they gave it too much HP. Saying it's because of print changes is an assumption. There are a dozen reasons they could have done it.
 

Moara

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Oct 25, 2017
9,098
This raid was the only one I wasn't able to get the Epithet for as well, despite light being my best element. They really need to tune things for the next one.
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
1,861
A big factor to why this event felt more grindy I feel is Elias. Not only does he not have 2 damage skills, he needs synergy otherwise his 2nd ability will rarely activate, on top of being a a defensive bow unit, resulting in having the lowest Strength in the game. A 4* elemental weapon also only gives HP up. As a result, you have many new players just not doing nearly as much damage as previous raids with Celery and Melsa if they decided to main the event character this time around. I legitimately think Luca is a better DPS.

On top of that, I realized towards the end that Euden is legitimately a better DPS on my no pulls FPS account, literally almost double Luca and Elias’ Strength because 1) Pele gives 30% Strength MUB compared to Jupiter’s 10% Strength and HP, 2) I have him 5* promoted, giving him extra stats, 3) Euden has more Strength mana circle nodes than both Lucas and Elias by being classified as an Attack unit compared to Support (Lucas) or Defense (Elias), which means facilities and Pele give even more additional Strength, and 4) his facilities are more leveled up in preparation for HMS. The fact that the event character is seemingly less effective than even 3* options (Irfan, Raemond, even Malora are all better for DPS) isn’t ideal.

Not even mentioning the fact that it’s odd to have an event character be the exact same weapon/element combo as a story character. I hope future event characters don’t double up like this, since it limits how much some players can play if they’re fairly unlucky with pulls.
 

Drax

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Oct 25, 2017
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Elias is horrible, the boss has a ton more hp, loss of buff on wyrmprint, Nerf to ex rates.

It was all too much and it hurt the experience.
 
May 1, 2018
563
This raid was the only one I wasn't able to get the Epithet for as well, despite light being my best element. They really need to tune things for the next one.
I got the epithet from being picky about groups and forfeiting when it went over time (I didn't host so the others could still complete those raids). Didn't take toooo long. Then I got epithet time in a random group later lol.

My Light team is... weirdly good, but definitely not the best. I have HEli who's better than Julietta and Hildegarde for the raid. I also have Maribelle who is Top 2 most useful off-element 5*s (the other one being Ezelith). But I don't have Amane or either Light attack dragon, and my strongest weapon is a single 0UB 5*T2 (I should probably just bite the bullet and make Compass Needle, since it's much more likely I'll end up making it than Gae Bolg -> Water Lance... though now it hardly seems necessary). I'm running Elias despite having no other energy units, since I felt like he'd still be better than Linus...? I might be wrong on that just due to weapon types and a second nuke, but oh well, he's a defense unit with a defensive passive. Axes are better against crowds, and he's not a Force Strike axe so he won't chew through the OD bar.
 
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Parshias

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Oct 25, 2017
661
I didn't exactly notice the raid boss being an HP sponge myself, but I went on the wiki real quick to check and whoo boy they did not balance this boss well. Clearly they didn't take into account removing raid print damage bonuses.

Expert Sabnock has more than 100k more HP than Expert Hypnos, and no damage boosting wyrmprint. Absurd.
 
May 1, 2018
563
It's because he doesn't have Ascension.

And/or because Hypnos was fragile.

And/or because the playerbase is generally stronger now so they wanted to balance for that (Phraeganoth had even less HP).

And/or because they removed the print bonus.
 

abellwillring

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Oct 25, 2017
1,275
Austin, TX
Trying to decide if it makes sense economically to get a 4th smithwyrm. It’d cost 400 or I could quick finish one for 28. How many do most of you have? 3 generally has seemed fine to me.
 

jonjonaug

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Oct 25, 2017
1,511
I didn't exactly notice the raid boss being an HP sponge myself, but I went on the wiki real quick to check and whoo boy they did not balance this boss well. Clearly they didn't take into account removing raid print damage bonuses.

Expert Sabnock has more than 100k more HP than Expert Hypnos, and no damage boosting wyrmprint. Absurd.
While true, the fight also doesn't have any kind of extended "stop fighting the boss to hit other stuff" segment like the last two raids
 
May 1, 2018
563
4 is great. 4 buildings needed at max level for High Midgard.

I feel like I don't have enough rupies, medallions and maybe even orbs to keep up on 5. It would probably just go to upgrading the Dragon Tree until that maxes out.

3 is probably optimal if you don't mind waiting longer before you can really start on 5* weapons. Which doesn't actually matter much if you can't farm the stuff to upgrade dojos and altars for High Dragons that fast. So... it might be worse if you use the 30-Day Recovery Pack since that lets you farm quite a lot more.
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
1,861
Managed to get the 4.5K Gold Emblem reward for my no pulls account, even though I REALLY don’t need exp crystals anymore. Did my HMS Weekly chests today. Now that I’ve finished the raid completely on both accounts, I may go back to daily HMS PUGs.

HMS Weekly PUG Clears


1st Team Makeup was an Ezelith and 2 Mikoto's. Ezelith played well enough that I rarely needed to use my skill to un-stun her. Howling Meteor is quite a good skill for spitball baiting.

2nd Team Makeup was a Vanessa, a Sinoa, and a Mikoto. The Vanessa was somewhat undergeared, only around 1700 Strength, but Sinoa buffs are really good for offsetting that. Getting Strength ups and Crite rate ups along with skill damage do-ability made it so it was a really smooth run overall. Sinoa got hit a couple times, but I healed her well and since she’s ranged, I had more wiggle room in waiting to cure her.

3rd Team Makeup was funnily enough 2 Euden’s and a Vanessa, I guess proving that clearing with 2 Euden’s is possible, even without a Mikoto. The higher Might Euden was skilled at dodging purple Tempests with Exalted Fire, adding extra DPS. We cut it really close, like a handful of seconds before time’s up, but the run also wasn’t flawless with them getting hit a lot.

Overall, pretty solid runs, was fun seeing 2 Euden’s willing to give it a go. Looking forward to the next High Dragon Trial.

Someone did the math, and apparently when a fire facility comes out, a Euden can hit the HMS minimum without being fully unbound (all 50 mana nodes unbound). They need the non-Eldwater 5th Mana Circle nodes, altars and dojo’s at 30/30 and 16/18, Lvl 80 5* elemental weapon, maxed Glorious Tempest, and lvl 100 MUB Pele. I’ll get my Euden on my F2P account to that and just wait for that fire facility, since I’d rather use my Elwater for more 5* promotions. I may try to do HMS with Vanessa’s before then if my Strength isn’t too low, we’ll see.