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deepFlaw

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I assume this is probably not the case, but does anyone know if The Shining Overlord's Sword Skill Damage upgrade applies to katanas as well? In looking through the wyrmprints, there isn't one with a katana ability/user upgrade at all despite there being one for what looks like just about everything else.. have they just not added one yet or does it fall under the same catch all?
Nope, katanas (technically called blades) aren’t considered swords. Each of the 40% weapon skill damage Wyrmorints were introduced one at a time, starting with lances if I recall currently, so the rest of the weapons will most likely get their turn eventually.
So far we have:

Lance: Dragon and Tamer (skill damage / dark res)
Axe: Kung Fu Masters (crit rate / skill damage)
Sword: The Shining Overlord (skill damage / dragon’s claws)
Bow: Forest Bonds (skill damage / striking haste)

...really seems like Lance and Bow kinda got screwed on that second ability, especially non-light Lances, huh.

And all of them can drop, fwiw. Shining Overlord is hard story, Kung Fu Masters is dragons, D&T and Forest Bonds is Void. So realistically you’d probably only end up with the latter two, but you never know.

also, vaguely off topic side note, this just reminds me of how it’s been amusing going through google translated guides for Another Eden, as it usually translates both “sword” and “katana” as... “sword”
 

Baladium

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I am soo done with this game. 12k Wyvern Prints later and all I got was only 5* fire dragons. I want Veronica. This game keeps screwing with me when I want to build out my dark team. I even have my 5* summoner ticket, but it's useless since I have all of the 5* characters on the list. It's like the game wants me to get the regular recorruring 5* heros but when limited comes in, forget about it. Especially when 5* dark are the main characters.

I guess Marth with be a good constellation gift. I am tired of Nef being my only 5* Hero for dark.
I can sympathize. 150 summons with tickets and no featured adventurers whatsoever. Got Heinwald, Nefaria, and some dragons.

I have 105k Wyrmite saved up and was ready and willing to empty most of my stash on this showcase, but now I’m hesitant thanks to my awful luck so far...
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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Just to put median pulling results into perspective, with a 0.5% pull chance, 12 tenfolds {14.4K Wyrmite) only gives you about a 50% chance of specifically rolling Veronica, even factoring in pity rate. Additionally, you’d need 39 tenfolds for a 90% chance of landing her, 78 tenfolds for a 99%. Even then, one out of every hundred people are gonna be unlucky enough to still not get her after those 78. Either way, gacha gonna gacha.
 
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Einbroch

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It's the Cygames way. They're mega generous in terms of rolls and not having a lot of P2W mechanics, but their rate ups are literally the worst in the business.

Great for casual players and those that don't unit chase, but horrible for those who want a specific unit.
 

Josh378

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Oct 27, 2017
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I can sympathize. 150 summons with tickets and no featured adventurers whatsoever. Got Heinwald, Nefaria, and some dragons.

I have 105k Wyrmite saved up and was ready and willing to empty most of my stash on this showcase, but now I’m hesitant thanks to my awful luck so far...

It sucks that the next event, I already have every character/dragon, so I can skip it easily. I soo want Veronica since I couldn't get the 5* new years Dark hero NOR the last 5* dark event characters. What's funny is that when I do pull 5*, it's always either a Dragon I don't have yet (don't need on team) or a 5* character I don't have (don't need on team). I wish you luck. If you can pull a Veronica for me, I would be happy for you.
 

Gun Dog

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Oct 27, 2017
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I feel incredibly lucky that I got all 3 FEH characters in two tenfolds, I've never gotten a rate up banner 5* adventurer except for Gala Ranzal and Dragonyule Cleo. Veronica is my first natural 5* Dark character as I've missed all the other ones.
 

ElFly

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Oct 27, 2017
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And everytime they add a new unit, the chances of getting the one you want drops a little.

Thus I promoted Botan to hold me over to my next good dark unit. I know my sazanka is better, but outside the golems, I dislike how axes play. Oh yeah I have Veronica but ugh, rather play melee.
 

Busaiku

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ugh, I really hope I can get Veronica with my next Daily Pulls abd Wyrmite.
I don't want to drop another $240...
 

Drax

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's the Cygames way. They're mega generous in terms of rolls and not having a lot of P2W mechanics, but their rate ups are literally the worst in the business.

Great for casual players and those that don't unit chase, but horrible for those who want a specific unit.
To be fair rate ups in this game aren't as bad as granblue.

We do not talk about sariel.
 

abellwillring

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thanks all for the scoop on the wyrmprints!

I can sympathize. 150 summons with tickets and no featured adventurers whatsoever. Got Heinwald, Nefaria, and some dragons.

I have 105k Wyrmite saved up and was ready and willing to empty most of my stash on this showcase, but now I’m hesitant thanks to my awful luck so far...
Boy that is tough. I got Veronica and Marth (think I've gotten him at least 3 times now) very early on, but have not been able to get a Fjorm yet. I did finally get another 5* on a summon today.. my first Pazuzu.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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I did 2 or 3 more 10s when I rated up and got a Gilgamesh dupe, which is pretty good even if not quite as lucky as the ones I did at the start of the banner.

Still not sure if I wanna do more; I don’t need the non-Marths and I’m just happy I got him (even if I actually need him the least, he’s just the most amusing to have) but limited is limited, and another good dark ranged unit would be nice...

well, we’ll see on Monday; another 10 or 20 can’t hurt at least
 

Baladium

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Just to put median pulling results into perspective, with a 0.5% pull chance, 12 tenfolds {14.4K Wyrmite) only gives you about a 50% chance of specifically rolling Veronica, even factoring in pity rate. Additionally, you’d need 39 tenfolds for a 90% chance of landing her, 78 tenfolds for a 99%. Even then, one out of every hundred people are gonna be unlucky enough to still not get her after those 78. Either way, gacha gonna gacha.
*palms start sweating profusely*

I wish you hadn’t shared the math with me. lol My heart goes out to anyone that’s been on the losing side of those odds. (And for all I know, that could be me by the end of this event...)

It sucks that the next event, I already have every character/dragon, so I can skip it easily. I soo want Veronica since I couldn't get the 5* new years Dark hero NOR the last 5* dark event characters. What's funny is that when I do pull 5*, it's always either a Dragon I don't have yet (don't need on team) or a 5* character I don't have (don't need on team). I wish you luck. If you can pull a Veronica for me, I would be happy for you.
Hey, thanks! :D It’s all but guaranteed they’ll do a re-run of the FE characters in the future, so if you can’t get her in this event, I’m sure you’ll be able to eventually. :)

How many summons did you do so far?

Boy that is tough. I got Veronica and Marth (think I've gotten him at least 3 times now) very early on, but have not been able to get a Fjorm yet. I did finally get another 5* on a summon today.. my first Pazuzu.
I know this is crazy talk, but they should have a system in place where if you summon dupes of a 5 adventurer a certain number of times, your next summon would be a guaranteed 5 that’s not currently in your roster. Wishful thinking, yeah, but not entirely unreasonable.
 

Rixa

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Oct 26, 2017
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lol My heart goes out to anyone that’s been on the losing side of those odds.
FEw days ago I stopped to tenfold I got from rewards I had 2 non ssr multipulls, did the tenfolder -> Got 5th dupe of Fjorm. Back to almost 3k Wyrmite collected and accepted the truth I don't get Marth and will not blow more multis to this banner and just keep collecting Wyrmites for future banners.
 

Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
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For me, as much as I really want Veronica, it's just not worth chasing it on a three-way banner. If I could spark her or something that'd be a different story, but since I can't, and with her competing with Marth and Fjorm who I already have, it's just too dangerous for me to pull. I have Curren and Heinwald as my 5* dark characters, as well as a promoted Sazanka, so I'm okay on that end.

Still, I'd love to have her but I'm going to resist. Just a few more days of temptation...
 

Mr. Virus

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Oct 27, 2017
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Managed to get enough wyrmite for a final 10 pull and Fjorm came home~! Got all the FE characters now so quite happy :). Not sure about where to put her though, as my Burn Res team has Elisanne on it and not sure who to shuffle off for Fjorm.

Let's see if I can restock for the Gala now though, ho boy.
 

Kenai

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Oct 26, 2017
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After blowing pretty much everything I had and failing to get Curran and then Gala Ranzal I was surprised the game gave me Fjorm and Veronica almost immediately. I did get a dupe Fjorm trying to get Marth but then he showed up on a single ticket pull after I traded in some badges, and I've still got 6k wyrmite, 2 10 pull tickets and 20+ singles. I'm not expecting this kind of luck in the game ever again (I would trade them all for G. Ranzal tho, no lie).

I also agree with whoever said weapon and crafting U.I. stuff could use an update, it's a bit of a nightmare sorting though all of these weapon drops and coordinating who gets what. That and some of the weapon skills seem like legit garbage to me, why would they reward me with a lame AoE dmg skill for my healer after spending all those resources on the high level staves? That's why I kinda laughed when my bf (the crossover renewed his interest, hasn't played since last year) was complaining about the Folkvangr not having an active weaponskill on it, I think the passive's great compared to most of the alternatives on the 5* weapons...
 

riveria

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Oct 25, 2017
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I spent all my resources trying to get all the limited adventurers and I'm still missing one of them. I'm now reading some of the dragon stories to get enough wyrmite to be able to do one last ten pull summon before the banner ends. Gacha games can get harsh, damn.
 

riveria

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Oct 25, 2017
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The sad thing is that the removal of the wyrmprints from the pool make it seemingly really easy to get everything basically. During this banner, I quickly got the 4* units I was still missing since the start and it gave me a lot of good stuff aside too. But now I see that not much has changed after all. The game is not going to change or react in any way to my current situation. I'm a bit frustrated by this outcome, but if I cave in on this last attempt, it will mean that I'll be probably not be able to do a pull at all on the next banner, and that would be a first. I guess I'm giving up. While I write this, the music for the dragon stories sounds in background, making it all a bit more sad.

Those dragon stories I read were good though.
 
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Numberfox

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The Wyrmprint removal helped a lot with making it so you’re going to get way more useful stuff compared to before per Wyrmite spent since if you don’t have a huge collection, you’re way more likely to get adventurers and dragons you didn’t have which would have previously been Wyrmprints. It’s amazing for new players who are basically guaranteed to get new interesting stuff every time they get a 5* now. However, the featured rate-up chances are still the same, so specifically chasing anything hasn’t changed at all. The FE banner gives extra emphasis to this fact by having 3 limited 5* adventurers people want to chase. It’s gonna be especially rough chasing the last adventurer since if you already own 2 of them, you’re gonna get Elwater 1/4 of the time whenever a 5* pops up.
 

Zeno

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The Wyrmprint removal helped a lot with making it so you’re going to get way more useful stuff compared to before per Wyrmite spent since if you don’t have a huge collection, you’re way more likely to get adventurers and dragons you didn’t have which would have previously been Wyrmprints. It’s amazing for new players who are basically guaranteed to get new interesting stuff every time they get a 5* now. However, the featured rate-up chances are still the same, so specifically chasing anything hasn’t changed at all. The FE banner gives extra emphasis to this fact by having 3 limited 5* adventurers people want to chase. It’s gonna be especially rough chasing the last adventurer since if you already own 2 of them, you’re gonna get Elwater 1/4 of the time whenever a 5* pops up.
Yep. I spent about 10k wyrmite and 3-4 10x pulls and only got one. I only got another because of the premium summon. Not gonna summon any more (other than daily deal) for the last one.
 

Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
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Given how useful the Heroes Arrive wyrmprint is, I'm tempted to get a a couple copies beyond my MLB just so I can run it on more than one adventurer. It might be nice to use on the AI for wave-clearing events, now that they use their force strikes more often...
 

Faenix1

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Oct 27, 2017
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I spent all my resources trying to get all the limited adventurers and I'm still missing one of them. I'm now reading some of the dragon stories to get enough wyrmite to be able to do one last ten pull summon before the banner ends. Gacha games can get harsh, damn.
Yoooo. I had no idea those stories gave anything, had enough for two ten summons and actually got what I wanted. 😂
 

Divvy

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Oct 25, 2017
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After trying and failing to complete Alfonse's trial with Veronica like thirty times, I decided to kit up Alex on a whim. Completed it in two tries XD
 

Busaiku

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Oct 25, 2017
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Welp, after 28 10 pulls with no Veronica, I'm done spending money for another good while.
Was thinking of going for the $240 to try, but I know I won't get her.

So around like 40 10 pulls and 40 singles on this banner total.
 

Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
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Welp, after 28 10 pulls with no Veronica, I'm done spending money for another good while.
Was thinking of going for the $240 to try, but I know I won't get her.

So around like 40 10 pulls and 40 singles on this banner total.
I'm sorry.

You're definitely doing the right thing, best to cut your losses now. I hope you got some useful stuff along the way, at least. Just think, if we had the spark system you would have been well beyond the point of being able to spark her. :/

Edit:

I'm over ten million valor now and I'm still grinding Alberion Front. The insignia trade is too good.
 
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Rayen

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Oct 29, 2017
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I spent all the wyrmrite I had, at least 15 ten pulls and didn’t get one of the FE characters. I did get a bunch of people I didn’t have though since I’m still new, including Vixel and Prometheus who I really wanted.

Just very disappointing to do the event stuff, get all of that wyrmrite and just watch all of it turn into eldwater. Ugh. I used it to turn some of my cute three and four star boys into five star boys, so it went to good use I guess.
 

Vilifier

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Oct 25, 2017
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I pulled Fjorm today and joined the 2/3 FEH Pull Club. I was hoping for Veronica; but knew deep down she wasn't coming home. My 50MC Xainfried is now at risk of being forever benched.
 

mockingbird

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm sorry.

You're definitely doing the right thing, best to cut your losses now. I hope you got some useful stuff along the way, at least. Just think, if we had the spark system you would have been well beyond the point of being able to spark her. :/

Edit:

I'm over ten million valor now and I'm still grinding Alberion Front. The insignia trade is too good.
Yeah the rewards are too good, really. That said, not sure i have it in me to go past 10 million.
 

A.J.

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'll probably check our around 3 million since getting marched with a good team for Lunatic front is like pulling teeth.
 

Razmos

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Oct 28, 2017
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I'm kinda approaching 2 million? I enjoy the idea of defense battles but the shadow knight kinda ruins it to be honest, it kills the pacing and doubles the length of every run, and by the time I've finished one run it feels like it's been ages and my thumb aches from all the tapping.

Without the shadow knight it would be much more fun and farmable
 

theMrCravens

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm getting way too many Front fails for it to be viable time-wise.
I don't know how some of you have the patience for it, other than doing it once for the daily.
 

Baladium

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Does anyone know how far the “Clear the Alberian Front” limited endeavor goes up to?

FEw days ago I stopped to tenfold I got from rewards I had 2 non ssr multipulls, did the tenfolder -> Got 5th dupe of Fjorm. Back to almost 3k Wyrmite collected and accepted the truth I don't get Marth and will not blow more multis to this banner and just keep collecting Wyrmites for future banners.
Welp, after 28 10 pulls with no Veronica, I'm done spending money for another good while.
Was thinking of going for the $240 to try, but I know I won't get her.

So around like 40 10 pulls and 40 singles on this banner total.
These physically hurt to read. Sorry, guys. :(
 

Riley

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Oct 25, 2017
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Annelie and Halloween Elisanne are really good for The Alberian Front (Lunatic). I get the most successful runs with a full team of lancers or wands.

But there's always some runs where someone goes to the top left house instead of staying by the gate path to intercept the 3 wolves that spawn nearby.. and the gate ends up getting damaged. 🙄 Or people forget to walk into the glowing circles after saving the houses. 🙄
 

Iori Loco

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Nov 10, 2017
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Welp, after 28 10 pulls with no Veronica, I'm done spending money for another good while.
Was thinking of going for the $240 to try, but I know I won't get her.

So around like 40 10 pulls and 40 singles on this banner total.
I feel you. Veronica elluded me too after spending almost all my single tickets, all my tenfolds and a lot of wyrmrite. I gave up wasting my rolls after the last 5 or so tenfolds gave me absolutely nothing new or useful. I got 6 Marths in the process, lol.

And speaking of Marth, I kind of have been avoiding high dragon battles for a long while and now I have a little more confidence in my characters to give them a try, but is Marth a good character to get into HMS or is there's an over abundance of him? I wanna know before I start using my resources on an elemental 5* sword and uncapping Cerberus, especially since I have Ranzal and Albert who may also want a sword for their element and Marishiten looks really tempting to uncap since she's limited (although my dark roster is a bit meh).
 

Wiseblade

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Oct 26, 2017
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I feel you. Veronica elluded me too after spending almost all my single tickets, all my tenfolds and a lot of wyrmrite. I gave up wasting my rolls after the last 5 or so tenfolds gave me absolutely nothing new or useful. I got 6 Marths in the process, lol.

And speaking of Marth, I kind of have been avoiding high dragon battles for a long while and now I have a little more confidence in my characters to give them a try, but is Marth a good character to get into HMS or is there's an over abundance of him? I wanna know before I start using my resources on an elemental 5* sword and uncapping Cerberus, especially since I have Ranzal and Albert who may also want a sword for their element and Marishiten looks really tempting to uncap since she's limited (although my dark roster is a bit meh).
HMS has been plagued by an overabundance of healers from the very beginning, the event influx of Marth players is acually helpful in giving people who only had Verica/Vildegarde a DPS alternative. It's rare to find a room of 4 DPS where not one has a pocket healer. You'll be fine.
 

deepFlaw

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I’m about to hit 4 million (with a few runs left after that, I have full wings oops), and will probably hit 5 million tomorrow as I’ll be leveling and probably won’t get 3 HMC clears in one day.

Which means I probably coulda sorta casually hit 10 mil if I’d consistently ran it as often as I’ve done it in the past few days as I’ve been more on top of it, but... eh. Even with good room conditions that let me escape all the fucking inexplicable Phoenix Alfonses and such, it’s all over the place. Really just makes me wish I had 3 friends who played, so I could go “let’s sit down for ~30 minutes and just knock out some runs” and that’d be it.

...also the majority of the great badge rewards are really kinda bad? Insignias are nice to have but they’re practically worthless in practice; call me when they add silver coins to the event shops (or coin trading) so I can actually use any of them. Like I’m mostly just considering getting amber royals, even with having a worse price than the regular insignias, because I maxed my staff dojos so all I might need for that color are royals for 5.3s. After that, I guess I’ll pick a color and get regulars, but, well, coins are the limiting factor so they’ll just pile up.

also why can’t you trade up regular badges, I have 31000 of these things
 

Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm more interested in the girl in the above banner. Well hello there. <3

Zardin looks really nice though, but I'm set on 5* adventurers right now. The dragon looks great too, but none of these are limited so they can always spook me later.
 

Razmos

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Oct 28, 2017
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Zardin's animations are amazing haha

Also that new Dark Bow is going to be better than Nefaria Isnt he
 

Numberfox

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I was not expecting triple chibi dance poses to pop up above Zardin for his Ravishing Rainbow animation; it is quite fabulous. Takemikazuchi has a pretty badass-looking skill.

I do like that they’re introducing the 4*’s and 5*’s with the same weapon/element combo in the same banner when we don’t have the combo yet (we didn’t need that for Sylas since we already have Aeleen), they did the same with Albert/Odetta. It makes not getting the featured 5* more manageable, and helps fill out the roster so all the combos are accounted for across rarities

The new dark bow might be blind resist, which is still the least represented, though it’s less of an issue now with Alex.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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decided hey, fuck it, let’s go for pity break after some singles + dailies rated me up again; did another 10 singles since I had 50 something (only non 3* was dupe Lowen), and I was planning to not actually pull till the afternoon seeing as it’s uhhh 3 AM

but my cat jumped on my lap, so my superstition was satisfied early, and I ended up having to do 4 10s to break

...mostly eldwater and worthless dragons, but hey, I got a new 5*! It’s, uh, Lin You and not one of the FE characters, but I’m glad to have her (and thankful the axe wasn’t a Curran dupe), and she might actually be my HMC alt now since Sylas and Louise both seem shaky... and me and my ~37k wyrmite are content with that for now. So goodbye Veronica and Fjorm, I guess.

This means I sorta went from having 0 wind 5*s to having 4/5 of them since Gala, and if you include the dupe Sylas I’d have gotten 3 of them in this banner. Of course, the one I actually specifically wanted is the one I still lack, Maribelle. But it’s nice to have my adventurer luck continue, even if it’s mostly due to the system changes letting me stretch wyrmite further alongside how much they’ve given out, haha.
 

Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
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decided hey, fuck it, let’s go for pity break after some singles + dailies rated me up again; did another 10 singles since I had 50 something (only non 3* was dupe Lowen), and I was planning to not actually pull till the afternoon seeing as it’s uhhh 3 AM

but my cat jumped on my lap, so my superstition was satisfied early, and I ended up having to do 4 10s to break

...mostly eldwater and worthless dragons, but hey, I got a new 5*! It’s, uh, Lin You and not one of the FE characters, but I’m glad to have her (and thankful the axe wasn’t a Curran dupe), and she might actually be my HMC alt now since Sylas and Louise both seem shaky... and me and my ~37k wyrmite are content with that for now. So goodbye Veronica and Fjorm, I guess.

This means I sorta went from having 0 wind 5*s to having 4/5 of them since Gala, and if you include the dupe Sylas I’d have gotten 3 of them in this banner. Of course, the one I actually specifically wanted is the one I still lack, Maribelle. But it’s nice to have my adventurer luck continue, even if it’s mostly due to the system changes letting me stretch wyrmite further alongside how much they’ve given out, haha.
Congrats! It's weird how things work out sometimes, huh?

I went into the FEH banner with fire/water being my weakest, and I got Marth/Mikoto and then Fjorm/Lily, all new. I also got Heinwald, so my dark team is a little stronger now. My weakest would probably have to be wind, even though I have Lin You/Maribelle/Hawk.