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XuandeXun

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May 16, 2019
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People are posting really high might gates again for ex, when its not really needed, high might players are being funneled into those rooms.
This pretty much. To get around it, I either host rooms myself or queue with an off-element, low might team then quick swap once I'm in the room. I want to help the newer players.

Conditional rooms seemed like a great idea at first, but the inability to opt-out of "Up for Anything" rooms when using matchmaking is annoying. And the conditions don't even do anything if the players joining don't agree with them - conditions are freely ignored once a player is in the room.

For example, I have Void Zephyr and Void Agni on Solo Auto farm, so I'm just looking for quick clears when I play them in Co-Op - I'm often dumping Blessed Ashes/Wyrmite/30-day pack refills into them, so speed and the ability to quickly repeat a run matters to me. I can even solo them with myself plus one of my AI if I have to. So I'll set a conditional room with a very low Might requirement and ban Staff/Healers. 90% of the time, this means someone joins and quick swaps to Verica/V.Hilde.

Its sad when my "optimal" play in Void Co-Op is to make a private room, open it, and lock it the moment anyone joins for a quick start. At least that way, if I'm "lucky" enough to trap a low level player with infinite wings who wants to learn the fight, then I can potentially run 10+ times in a row without any delay. But I shouldn't be incentivized to play this way.
 

Jive Turkey

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, as well-intentioned as the might gates are, I feel that they're easily the worst addition to the game and are more detrimental than anything.
 

Drax

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Oct 25, 2017
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I take it back, I get into gated 21000 "EXPERT" rooms, which is actually a detriment in that sometimes you skip killing the rod cuz you drive him to od so fast.
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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I’m still in the camp that if the might room condition wasn’t in place, you’d just have hosts that would refuse to start rooms until they hit exactly what they want and wasting more people’s time. This was a constant in the first few months of HMS, and it’d be even worse for content like raids, especially since it’s time-limited. The reason you see these high might rooms more than other rooms is because other rooms are instantly being made and starting up at a much faster rate while these high might room hosts are waiting until they get what they want, which makes them stay in the queue longer.
 

Drax

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just start a room and it fills, isnt that what everyone does?

How do you even set up a might restricted room?
"Create a room with conditions" High might players get funneled to these rooms as these rooms are always older and the quick play option always tries to fill older rooms when available. I do think its annoying in that the player base as taken advantage of it and its basically separating high might players from the lower might players that could use the help (and trust me there's actually alot of us like XuandeXun who don't mind helping out lower geared players at all).

Its why I do like the design of the current raid punishing have too strong of a raid in expert at least.
 

jonjonaug

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Oct 25, 2017
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I threw a ten roll at the banner hoping for Aeleen or one Ifrit so I could have two MUB Ifrits in my party. Instead this happened.

 

Drax

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Oct 25, 2017
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This pretty much. To get around it, I either host rooms myself or queue with an off-element, low might team then quick swap once I'm in the room. I want to help the newer players.
I've now been entering the queue as water and switching, thanks for the tip its worked really well in getting a more balanced representation in game.
 

XuandeXun

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May 16, 2019
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The reason you see these high might rooms more than other rooms is because other rooms are instantly being made and starting up at a much faster rate while these high might room hosts are waiting until they get what they want, which makes them stay in the queue longer.
The problem with this is when you have people like me who want to use matchmaking but instead qualify for these rooms. There's been plenty of times when I would queue for popular content only to be put into the same Might 5k+/Specific Weapon room several times in a row. The matchmaker feels like it favors funneling qualifying players into conditional rooms over open rooms, given the chance. They fill slower than open rooms, which gives them first priority.

This can be bypassed if I queue as a "bad" team, but its an extra step I shouldn't have to take. I'd rather just see "Up for Anything" removed from the matchmaking queue like the other goals are. It would get more players to use the room browsing mode, and it would return matchmaking to its old state where all players are equally welcome.
 
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Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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The problem with this is when you have people like me who want to use matchmaking but instead qualify for these rooms. There's been plenty of times when I would queue for popular content only to be put into the same Might 5k+/Specific Weapon room several times in a row. The matchmaker feels like it favors funneling qualifying players into conditional rooms over open rooms, given the chance. They fill slower than open rooms, which gives them first priority.

This can be bypassed if I queue as a "bad" team, but its an extra step I shouldn't have to take. I'd rather just see "Up for Anything" removed from the matchmaking queue like the other goals are. It would get more players to use the room browsing mode, and it would return matchmaking to its old state where all players are equally welcome.
I just host raids and let anyone in, but I can see how that change could help. My only issue with it is that you’re essentially punishing all the people who are reasonable with the conditions so that they will now also have much longer wait times along with the problematic ones. At the moment, the normal folk are having fast queue times and ideal comps with conditioned rooms because they have more relaxed requirements and are just using the system as intended, which may not be the case anymore if they’re not matched with the “Up For Anything” crowd.
 

Mr. Virus

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Oct 27, 2017
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I usually host with no restrictions too, but would like stickers to point people to the right element/gear. Though the healing stickers are pretty snarky, going into a Void battle without the right gear or completely off element is gonna suck for everyone.
 

Rixa

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Oct 26, 2017
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I had little bug. Was able to see the story and the 14500 power level coop quest in raid event and story quest above that 14500 power level quest. Tried to read that story but got some error text.
Couldn't join to 14500 coop and game crashed when I tried to take screen pic.

Last day of Void event I decided to try Void Angi coop. I have 5303 power level Laranoa and figured ah lets go to test. Kinda surprised how "easy" it was and got gold Epitaph for clearing it under 195 seconds, everyone was alive.
 

Rixa

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Oct 26, 2017
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Not sure if it was worth or not. Atleast Mym got ~820 more to power and I got first last tier weapon.



Champion Testament drought is real, granted Iam out of Eldwater too. Issues of having relatively newish accout. Trying to get one unit of every element to max Mana Circle, slowly getting there :).
 

ElFly

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Oct 27, 2017
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In a Champion Testament drought too

it's not like I want to summon more 5*, Cygames

I will make do with what I got
 

Sakrey

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't know if I had bad luck since the start of the event, but my EX raid trigger rate seems quite low compare to past raid events. In 24h, when dedicating all my getherwings to trigger the EX raid, I've done it only 5 times if not for less.
Hope that's just me and they haven't change the appearance rate. It was perfect in the rerun of Resplendent Refrain.
 

riveria

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's not just you. To me EX feels like it has a 25-30% of proc rate. This probably has something to do with the time window for the event, much longer than the RR rerun. You should just take your time.
 

Rixa

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Oct 26, 2017
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I got gacha dragon (2nd gacha) and saw that I have 5/5 WP left in gacha and around 200 items. Figured Ill fish for stuff and see what silver WPs I get, didnt know that random WP can be bronze or gold.

 

cw_sasuke

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Oct 27, 2017
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I got gacha dragon (2nd gacha) and saw that I have 5/5 WP left in gacha and around 200 items. Figured Ill fish for stuff and see what silver WPs I get, didnt know that random WP can be bronze or gold.

Yeah, seems like there is at least one 5* Wyrmprint with FoG in those pulls.
If you plan to farm alot its probably best to not reset until you get those WPS....people who cant do that many runs should probably reset the once they get the event WP and Dragon, to get them done before the Raid is over.

PS. Whats your Ingame name ?
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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I regret not emptying the first box, since it’d have been easy to get it then. I didn’t know it was in the early boxes...

But I’m likely gonna be near emptying the rest anyway, and I have a few copies as is, so getting it to MUB from this without any extra effort is still likely.
 

Rixa

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Oct 26, 2017
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I regret not emptying the first box, since it’d have been easy to get it then. I didn’t know it was in the early boxes...

But I’m likely gonna be near emptying the rest anyway, and I have a few copies as is, so getting it to MUB from this without any extra effort is still likely.
Yeah I didnt know that either so refreshed first box before getting all WP. Now I know.

PS. Whats your Ingame name ?
Same as nick here: Rixa
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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So after deleting the game a few months ago I got bored and reinstalled, only to find my account was deleted despite being linked to my Nintendo account. I spent a night or two restarting to see what I could get and I wound up with this:

5* characters: Mikoto, Sarisse, Maribelle, Albert and Annelie.
5* dragons: Marishiten, Pazuzu, Prometheus, and the free Yulong from the current event.

If I was going to keep going, what would I want to focus on?
 

riveria

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Oct 25, 2017
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You are not the first person I read they lose the account they thought had bounded to Nintendo's, I'm starting to worrying.

Jokes aside, that's a very good starting pool. Sarisse and Marishiten are especially precious being limited.
I don't get the question though. Keep going with what?
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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You are not the first person I read they lose the account they thought had bounded to Nintendo's, I'm starting to worrying.

Jokes aside, that's a very good starting pool. I don't get the question though. Keep going with what?
Like if I was going to keep playing, which characters would I want to work on first? Mikoto and Albert are already level 52 but the others are all around 20 to 30 and nobody's past their second mana circle. Only Albert has an elemental weapon.
 

riveria

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ah, so maybe you want to start building a team for each element, then thinking about building teams for Imperial Onslaught stages and weapons for Void trials, and after you can start building an adventurer for the High Dragon Trials, starting with the Wind one, the easier, but I wouldn't fret about that yet, being endgame material. Keep in mind that even 3* adventurers (when promoted) are perfectly viable for basically all the content. For sure though all your 5* adventurer will be very good options for their respective HDTs, as well as everything else, in their respective category (element/resistance) obviously.

Trying to better answer your question, the level of a character doesn't really matters alone in this game. It's more a combination of it's build, being composed of
Level
Mana Circle
Weapon
Wyrmprints
Dragon
Facilities in the Halidom.

Even if you go all the way to put your favourite character to 80 lv. and 50/50 mana circle it doesn't get you very far. The equipment and the other bits of the game are equally important, for that reason I'm telling you to build teams and not rush things, doing what's at hand first.
 
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Drax

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Oct 25, 2017
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Like if I was going to keep playing, which characters would I want to work on first? Mikoto and Albert are already level 52 but the others are all around 20 to 30 and nobody's past their second mana circle. Only Albert has an elemental weapon.
All of your characters are really solid, I guess you would work on a fire character for hms first.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is even Mikoto still good? I remember he was a launch unit.
He’s still one of the best fire units, yes. They’ve not added so many units that good 5* on-res units are irrelevant anyway, but he was also one of the best launch units to begin with. It doesn’t hurt that the competing best fire units are limited, as well.

There’s not really been much power creep as much as some units’ kits just increasingly aren’t as good in practical use. But for 5* that’s... kinda just Hawk, and to some extent Nefaria, still? And they had issues even early on. Other than that it’s just mostly issues of resistance making you better fit for high dragons or not. And along those lines you have characters like, say, Louise who’s on-res but not super common in High Mercury parties, but that’s yet another bow user and she does have some of the same issues as Hawk/Nefaria anyway as a result, so that’s not weird either.
 
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Apollo

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Oct 25, 2017
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So after deleting the game a few months ago I got bored and reinstalled, only to find my account was deleted despite being linked to my Nintendo account. I spent a night or two restarting to see what I could get and I wound up with this:

5* characters: Mikoto, Sarisse, Maribelle, Albert and Annelie.
5* dragons: Marishiten, Pazuzu, Prometheus, and the free Yulong from the current event.

If I was going to keep going, what would I want to focus on?
I’ll echo that you should make a team for each element to start with. It might be worth mentioning what 4* (and even 3* units) you have. Some of them are extremely good and might help you round out your teams well.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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I’ll echo that you should make a team for each element to start with. It might be worth mentioning what 4* (and even 3* units) you have. Some of them are extremely good and might help you round out your teams well.
I'll just go element by element for my 4*+ units, then. We'd be here all day if I was listing my 3*s too.

Fire: Mikoto, Sarisse, Maribelle, Euden, Yue, Xuan Zang, Sinoa
Water: Orsem, Luther, Karina, Elisanne
Wind: Ku Hai, Addis, Musashi, Ranzal, Pia, Aeleen, Eleonora
Light: Albert, Annelie, Ryozen, Yachiyo, Luca, Amane
Dark: Orion, Sazanka, Norwin, Cleo, Edward

Healers seem to be a weak spot for me in basically every element.
 

Apollo

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'll just go element by element for my 4*+ units, then. We'd be here all day if I was listing my 3*s too.

Fire: Mikoto, Sarisse, Maribelle, Euden, Yue, Xuan Zang, Sinoa
Water: Orsem, Luther, Karina, Elisanne
Wind: Ku Hai, Addis, Musashi, Ranzal, Pia, Aeleen, Eleonora
Light: Albert, Annelie, Ryozen, Yachiyo, Luca, Amane
Dark: Orion, Sazanka, Norwin, Cleo, Edward

Healers seem to be a weak spot for me in basically every element.
Your fire is extremely stacked, haha. As far as your healer concerns, you’d be fine sticking with Cleo to start out with- since she’s a dark unit (and the dark/light weakness always favors the player), she’ll never take worse than neutral damage. As you pick up more on element healers, you’ll be able to start diversifying more.

You’ll want to try to have at least one character on each element that can resist an ailment your others can’t (for instance, wind enemies typically inflict either stun or sleep). For fire, Sarisse resists both ailments so she’ll cover that. I’d probably just focus on your natural five stars there to start. That being said, Sinoa is a fantastic buffer and Xuan Zang has a great debuff that’s especially useful in raids. Down the line you may want to consider building one of those, especially the latter.

You don’t have many options for water, but thankfully you do have a few excellent characters there. Elisanne has a good party buff, Karina covers your stun immunity, and Orsem is super good in his own right.

You’ve got a great selection for wind. Addis provides bleed which is extremely strong- he’d be a fantastic addition. He also has freeze resistance. Beyond him, I’d just choose from among Ku Hai, Ranzal, Aeleen and Eleonora while avoiding stacking up on weapon types. All but Aeleen have bog res so you’ll be covered there.

Albert and Annelie are both great and have you covered for poison res on light, so you’ll probably want a character with curse res. I’d go with Yachiyo or Amane.

For dark, insta include Sazanka since she’s great and has bleed. For now you’ll have to use Norwin and Orion. They’re both pretty good.

Overall, outside of the lack of on element healers I’d say you made out very well for yourself. If you end up wanting to do high dragon trials down the line, you should already have somebody viable for all of them (hopefully so for light and dark, but we’ll have to see how those fights turn out to know for sure).
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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So after deleting the game a few months ago I got bored and reinstalled, only to find my account was deleted despite being linked to my Nintendo account. I spent a night or two restarting to see what I could get and I wound up with this:

5* characters: Mikoto, Sarisse, Maribelle, Albert and Annelie.
5* dragons: Marishiten, Pazuzu, Prometheus, and the free Yulong from the current event.

If I was going to keep going, what would I want to focus on?
If you left before Void Battles, 4* dragons are a lot more relevant now, especially the Strength dragons, since it’s much easier to MUB them with 2 moonstones in the Void Trade Shop which refreshes monthly. It gives you a guaranteed MUB of any 4* dragon you pull every two months.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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If you left before Void Battles, 4* dragons are a lot more relevant now, especially the Strength dragons, since it’s much easier to MUB them with 2 moonstones in the Void Trade Shop which refreshes monthly. It gives you a guaranteed MUB of any 4* dragon you pull every two months.
Yeah, I have no idea what Void Battles are. I keep seeing them mentioned in my daily quests but I don't have access to them I don't think?
 

Apollo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, I have no idea what Void Battles are. I keep seeing them mentioned in my daily quests but I don't have access to them I don't think?
They’re unlocked after completing chapter 6 or 7 of the main story IIRC. I definitely recommend trying to clear out the shop each month- it gives a pretty phenomenal amount of materials.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I’ll echo that you should make a team for each element to start with. It might be worth mentioning what 4* (and even 3* units) you have. Some of them are extremely good and might help you round out your teams well.
This is doubly good advice because an update coming mid month specifically recommended people try and work towards a team for each element to go before it (mercurial gauntlet) releases.
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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Yeah, I have no idea what Void Battles are. I keep seeing them mentioned in my daily quests but I don't have access to them I don't think?
Ah, they’re unlocked after completing Chapter 7 I believe. They are basically a bunch of boss battles that bridge the gap between IO and High Dragons, letting you craft Void weapons meant for High Dragons, other Void Bosses, or just general use. You also earn Void seeds to exchange in the Void Trade Shop. We usually get new Void battles once a month during “off-time” between events like at the end of May last month, which is when you’ll see the Void Battle daily and limited-time endeavors pop up. That’s also when it’s the best time to grind them out for Void seeds/leaves since the endeavors will award bonus leaves/seeds to help clear out the shop.
 

Razmos

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Oct 28, 2017
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I love how the raid is filled with Xuan Zang and Valentines Hildegarde who both have strength debuffs. The boss ends up hitting like a wet noodle
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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I find it cute that Euden and Mym have good synergy this raid since Euden’s Dragon Claws combined with Tempest Overlord for a ton of strength stacking on top of a Def debuff and just being a sword for good FS damage for the OD bar, while Mym can increase the dragon bar so he can dragon sooner, and being hit by stun-inducing stuff just lets her build the dragon bar faster.
 

mockingbird

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Oct 27, 2017
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I know it's not nightmare but this raid boss seems easier than the others. That said he seems to have a ton of HP, which'll make nightmare a pain.
I'm not sure if the community is ready for Nightmare. It kinda feels like the first few days will be a

nightmare
Nightmare exists to punish high might players for playing lazily these past few days.
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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I’ll cash out on my whale and hoarding tendencies for this nightmare raid

I might pass out before reset, but I can confidently say I’m prepared. I have no idea if this is optimal, I just like the Euden/Mym synergy as well as the Sinoa/Sarisse synergy.
 
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Numberfox

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Yours might end up being more optimal depending on how much healers are needed. I think I’d probably swap my Sinoa/Sarisse for Xuan Zang and Verica/V! Hilde potentially if that ends up being the case.
 

Baladium

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I find it cute that Euden and Mym have good synergy this raid since Euden’s Dragon Claws combined with Tempest Overlord for a ton of strength stacking on top of a Def debuff and just being a sword for good FS damage for the OD bar, while Mym can increase the dragon bar so he can dragon sooner, and being hit by stun-inducing stuff just lets her build the dragon bar faster.
I’m sure Euden is perfectly aware of this synergy, just like he is to Mym’s incessant advances.

I'm not sure if the community is ready for Nightmare. It kinda feels like the first few days will be a

nightmare
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