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GaimeGuy

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They're juicing him back up! Attack the little ones!

It's charging up! Attack while you can!
 

Jive Turkey

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Oct 25, 2017
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Raised my verica high enough to take void zephyr.

Not as hard as I thought it would be.
Congrats! I find Void Zephyr to be a fun fight even after the grind fatigue sets in. Verica was my first character to beat him too but I had to swap her out for s sword user after getting frustrated that other swords weren't force striking.

Seriously, a well-played Naveed triggers easy mode.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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yeah, I could not stand playing Verica or even my preferred Sinoa because people refused to FS

so I did most of my farming as Naveed
 

XuandeXun

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Played well, Void Zephyr can be soloed by one melee DPS on a decent setup (MUB Ifrit or better, any matching 4* Dull Res or non-Void 5* Elemental weapon, preferably a Sword character). Verica is fine for learning the fight and helping lesser skilled players clear more consistently, which is as far as most players bother to go. However, for someone who has farmed Zephyr as much as I have, I detest seeing her in my lobbies - at best she denies Marth's passive if I'm screwing up, at worst she does less DPS than an AI on my bench.

I've been around the block in terms of compositions, from learning the fight on Dull Res Naveed, to having a Solo Auto team with three MUB Dull Res weapons (Karl Phoenix lead, Marth/Naveed DPS, Verica), to my current composition of Co-Op Marth on a MUB 5* Elemental with Sinoa (and sometimes Xania if first join has an empty bench) on Dragon Delay Res and Dragon Prep.

I actually clear faster with a dead Co-Op corpse or two than I do when that player quits early. When Co-Op converts to Solo, the Co-Op AI will cause me to lose Dragon Gauge, which occasionally means I can't Dragon in time to avoid a Dull during Overdrive. I can still clear, but it turns a 2:30+ run into a 2:00 run.

Just to give an idea of how much I've farmed Void Zephyr/Agni, I'm sitting on ~50 Void Seeds and ~3000 Void Leaf, with the entire stock of Bronze and Gold Fafnirs purchased. Zero Squishums, but that's not the main reason I'm farming.
 

retrobotjr

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Jan 10, 2018
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So I've been building Lily for HBH for quite a while now but didn't have Poseidon so I have always been underprepared HP-wise. I got Fjorm and was wondering if building her up might be a better use of resources.
 

ginnokane

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Oct 28, 2017
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So I've been building Lily for HBH for quite a while now but didn't have Poseidon so I have always been underprepared HP-wise. I got Fjorm and was wondering if building her up might be a better use of resources.
I had been doing the same, even made Lily her 5.3 weapon, but couldn't quite make the hp and strength requirements without using all my sunstones to MUB Leviathan (and don't have Poseidon either). So I started working on Fjorm, got her V5.3 weapon up to 2UB (I had been grinding Agni, but not crafted anything since the start), and managed to clear HBH in a pub with the following build:

Fjorm Lv 80, 47/50MC (2 Co-Ability nodes open)
Lv 90 Void 5.3.2 Lance
MUB Lv 80 Vodyanoy
Lv 100 HBH print
Lv 80 Crystallian Envoy MUB

I have since brought her up to 50MC, but that was to help get into higher level pub groups. Still need to grind out Void Agni to get a few more materials to get the lance up to Lv 100. But that build was definitely viable. There are lots of Fjorms out there, and they seem to be preferred to Xanfried, though having a Lily in the group helps for her co-ability too, I think, judging from most of the final team compositions. Fjorm is really fun to play though, and I recommend her as a good, slightly more budget option.
 

retrobotjr

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Jan 10, 2018
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I had been doing the same, even made Lily her 5.3 weapon, but couldn't quite make the hp and strength requirements without using all my sunstones to MUB Leviathan (and don't have Poseidon either). So I started working on Fjorm, got her V5.3 weapon up to 2UB (I had been grinding Agni, but not crafted anything since the start), and managed to clear HBH in a pub with the following build:

Fjorm Lv 80, 47/50MC (2 Co-Ability nodes open)
Lv 90 Void 5.3.2 Lance
MUB Lv 80 Vodyanoy
Lv 100 HBH print
Lv 80 Crystallian Envoy MUB

I have since brought her up to 50MC, but that was to help get into higher level pub groups. Still need to grind out Void Agni to get a few more materials to get the lance up to Lv 100. But that build was definitely viable. There are lots of Fjorms out there, and they seem to be preferred to Xanfried, though having a Lily in the group helps for her co-ability too, I think, judging from most of the final team compositions. Fjorm is really fun to play though, and I recommend her as a good, slightly more budget option.
Wow i could match that build exactly if I just make the lance, which I can do with a few more ruby orbs. Might finally get that HBH clear soon!
 

Wiseblade

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Oct 26, 2017
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I can confirm that Fjorm makes what is normally the hardest High Dragon Trial relatively trivial. She's just so perfectly built for the fight that she's pretty much a preferred pick over anyone else for that fight.

Why bring Xainfried when Fjorm exists?
Why bring Orsem when you could have a second Fjorm?
Why team with Lily when you could have a third of the GOOD ice princess?
EVEN THANIEL ISN'T SAFE
 

Razmos

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Oct 28, 2017
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At this point I may just main a spear user for every element lol
Annelie, Fjorm and Mym are my fave characters at the moment
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hearing this stuff (and some other things about her) makes me kinda sad I missed Fjorm.

Water went from being my strongest element, with 2 5* in that element around Christmas when I otherwise had 1 or 0... to now just about my weakest aside from dark. I have no real inclination to fight HBH anytime soon, but she’d be very nice to have for it. It was very amusing to get Marth (...less amusing to get twice in 2 10s) as I only had any affection for him, but in the end it seems she and to some extent Veronica would have been much more useful for me, hmm. Woulda risked the Platinum but those 2 Marths scared me, haha.
 

abellwillring

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Oct 25, 2017
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I really hate the new summon system. You work for ages to get enough wyrmite and it's like nine times out of ten you just get all duplicates with at least half being really shitty/useless 3* dragons. It's so incredibly anti-climactic now. The fact I haven't managed a 5* in 2 banners isn't helping..
 
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Vilifier

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Oct 25, 2017
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I really hate the new summon system. You work for ages to get enough wyrmite and it's like 9/10 out of ten you just get all duplicates with at least half being really shitty/useless 3* dragons. It's so incredibly anti-climactic now..
But seeing a five star drop and it turned out to be a Wyrmprint was heartbreaking. I just accept that any 3* that I see summoned is another 150 Eldwater towards a Wyrmprint/co-ability.
 

abellwillring

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Oct 25, 2017
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But seeing a five star drop and it turned out to be a Wyrmprint was heartbreaking. I just accept that any 3* that I see summoned is another 150 Eldwater towards a Wyrmprint/co-ability.
I agree to an extent but Wyrmprints were/are important so at least you usually got some use out of them even if it was way more disappointing than a dragon or character. Now I'm just getting all trash for the most part and it feels like a very pointless exercise. Certainly the appeal (really, the sole appeal for me) of these kinds of games is earning enough to pull the gacha machine due to the hope of something good coming out but now it's just hopelessness and frustration for me.
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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I feel like that's just the sign of owning most of the roster, which is inevitable after playing any gacha game long enough. You're gonna reach that point sooner or later.
 

Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
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I agree to an extent but Wyrmprints were/are important so at least you usually got some use out of them even if it was way more disappointing than a dragon or character. Now I'm just getting all trash for the most part and it feels like a very pointless exercise. Certainly the appeal (really, the sole appeal for me) of these kinds of games is earning enough to pull the gacha machine due to the hope of something good coming out but now it's just hopelessness and frustration for me.
But now if you get a rainbow and it's a duplicate adventurer, you can get eldwater and trade it in for the wyrmprint of you choice instead of hoping for a specific wyrmprint to fall, not to mention all of the extra eldwater we get from dragons/3+4* adventurers.
 

jonjonaug

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Oct 25, 2017
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I agree to an extent but Wyrmprints were/are important so at least you usually got some use out of them even if it was way more disappointing than a dragon or character. Now I'm just getting all trash for the most part and it feels like a very pointless exercise. Certainly the appeal (really, the sole appeal for me) of these kinds of games is earning enough to pull the gacha machine due to the hope of something good coming out but now it's just hopelessness and frustration for me.
That's sort of the drawback of playing a generous gacha game since launch, at least from an "excitement" perspective. 90%+ of all your draws are always going to be dupes.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ehh... I kinda have to agree with the feeling about summoning. Prints were annoying but are kinda more exciting than dupes? I think a decently lower chance of getting them and pity rate not resetting might have been fine in the end. Especially with the 2UB change (which dragons very much need now, I feel) making it easier to get a meaningful change out of dupes. But perhaps that would be better as a second banner vs having them in the main banners.

Cause it’s true that the feeling comes mainly from having so much of what’s available though, yes. Dupes make junk pulls feel worse but also even good ones can feel iffy. Like at Gala I did, what, 8 pulls and I think almost every one had a 5*, so I don’t want to complain... but the vast majority were dupes, and that kinda sucked to see. It’s hard to feel good about that luck when it takes the form of a ton of eldwater, which for me is just another number to arbitrarily let increase.

...I also kinda wish they’d add more 3*s more often, and figure out how to handle dragons better because they’re kinda messy in terms of what you can use effectively right now.

regardless, that’s why I’m just kinda not doing 10s for non-limited stuff for the time being; might cheat for dragon special but I don’t desperately need what’s gonna be rated up the most
 

Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
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It always surprises me seeing people pull 100+ times for characters such as Laranoa, Sylas, Student Maribelle, etc. They're fine characters, don't get me wrong, but I'd much rather have them spook me when pulling on a limited/gala banner (like what happened when I was pulling for Mym, and I got both Laranoa and Sylas) rather than eldwater. It's why I can't see myself EVER pulling on anything that's not limited or gala-related, even if I really want the character (like if they released a standard gacha Mym). Even with their rates up on their showcase banners, it'll be even easier to get them later on if I really wanted them, through the Pick Tickets which Cygames have shown they're willing to do (our next will likely be at the one year anniversary mark).

All in for summer but only up to a point, as I want 300 pulls minimum ready-and-waiting for the anniversary.
 

Drax

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ehh... I kinda have to agree with the feeling about summoning. Prints were annoying but are kinda more exciting than dupes? I think a decently lower chance of getting them and pity rate not resetting might have been fine in the end. Especially with the 2UB change (which dragons very much need now, I feel) making it easier to get a meaningful change out of dupes. But perhaps that would be better as a second banner vs having them in the main banners.

Cause it’s true that the feeling comes mainly from having so much of what’s available though, yes. Dupes make junk pulls feel worse but also even good ones can feel iffy. Like at Gala I did, what, 8 pulls and I think almost every one had a 5*, so I don’t want to complain... but the vast majority were dupes, and that kinda sucked to see. It’s hard to feel good about that luck when it takes the form of a ton of eldwater, which for me is just another number to arbitrarily let increase.

...I also kinda wish they’d add more 3*s more often, and figure out how to handle dragons better because they’re kinda messy in terms of what you can use effectively right now.

regardless, that’s why I’m just kinda not doing 10s for non-limited stuff for the time being; might cheat for dragon special but I don’t desperately need what’s gonna be rated up the most
its pretty much like this for all gacha games, just be thankful we're not limited to single pulls (hi single pull sparks in granblue). I"m the complete opposite with 3s, I much rather they add five stars in a much higher rate.

It always surprises me seeing people pull 100+ times for characters such as Laranoa, Sylas, Student Maribelle, etc. They're fine characters, don't get me wrong, but I'd much rather have them spook me when pulling on a limited/gala banner (like what happened when I was pulling for Mym, and I got both Laranoa and Sylas) rather than eldwater. It's why I can't see myself EVER pulling on anything that's not limited or gala-related, even if I really want the character (like if they released a standard gacha Mym). Even with their rates up on their showcase banners, it'll be even easier to get them later on if I really wanted them, through the Pick Tickets which Cygames have shown they're willing to do (our next will likely be at the one year anniversary mark).

All in for summer but only up to a point, as I want 300 pulls minimum ready-and-waiting for the anniversary.
To be honest, people aren't. Only non limited banner that really did solid after the first gala was Curran and Heinwald's (and while those designs were cool I think the bigger thing was that most people's weakest element was dark).

And next dream summon/suprise ticket has been datamined (was datamined at the same time as the dragon banner was at the beginning of the event; so it's probably going to be really soon.
 
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Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
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To be honest, people aren't. Only non limited banner that really did solid after the first gala was Curran and Heinwald's (and while those designs were cool I think the bigger thing was that most people's weakest element was dark).

And next dream summon/suprise ticket has been datamined (was datamined at the same time as the dragon banner was at the beginning of the event; so it's probably going to be really soon.
Some people are (according to YouTube), but then that's probably just a small section of whales so I'm not sure it's fair to put too much weight into it. I had no idea that a new Dream Summon was datamined, that's incredible news! If the new Maribelle or Fire Dragon is in there, I'll be very tempted. If not, I'm not sure who I'd get as I've been pretty fortunate with my pulls. Maybe Cerberus, as I've still yet to pull her...
 

Drax

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Some people are (according to YouTube), but then that's probably just a small section of whales so I'm not sure it's fair to put too much weight into it. I had no idea that a new Dream Summon was datamined, that's incredible news! If the new Maribelle or Fire Dragon is in there, I'll be very tempted. If not, I'm not sure who I'd get as I've been pretty fortunate with my pulls. Maybe Cerberus, as I've still yet to pull her...


Sakuya's def in.

As for rolls, I don't know the game's pretty generous so if people sacked, say Mym in under ten rolls why not go for maribelle especially if they are a kanahana fan or something.
 

Chrono

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Sakuya's def in.

As for rolls, I don't know the game's pretty generous so if people sacked, say Mym in under ten rolls why not go for maribelle especially if they are a kanahana fan or something.
Oh man, definitely going to go for Sakuya if I can! If she's in though, so would Maribelle more than likely...

A difficult choice lies ahead. I'm a pretty big Kana Hanazawa fan myself...
 

abellwillring

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Oct 25, 2017
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But now if you get a rainbow and it's a duplicate adventurer, you can get eldwater and trade it in for the wyrmprint of you choice instead of hoping for a specific wyrmprint to fall, not to mention all of the extra eldwater we get from dragons/3+4* adventurers.
I don’t think it needs to be and if/than. They can still allow us to buy wyrmprints with eldwater and to summon them.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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I saw that it was datamined but Dream being soon is kinda surprising. Thought there’d be longer before the next one.

...I’ll probably get normal Maribelle. And then have to decide between her and Lin for my Mercury alt; I’d be tempted to do both, but I don’t know if that’s worth the investment. So... we’ll see. I’ve actually been doing a decent amount of extra runs anyway since it usually is pretty quick to get a good group; think I’m already around 1/3 of the way to MUB + level 1 fafnir, which is nice to see.
 

kodax_shc

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Oct 27, 2017
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I have had stupid luck with my daily discount pulls since this banner started.

Got Mikoto (finally) on my first pull. Then a day later I got Serena. A few days of dragon and dupe 3 stars. Then this morning I pull Student Maribelle. Not that I needed any more fire units but for 30 diamantium I'll take it.
 

toastyToast

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Oct 26, 2017
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All this eldwater has made it so that I can get someone to 50 mana circles whenever I do a big summon session.

I'd get prints instead but I've got no freaking water
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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I’ve still got uhhhh 923 consecrated to spare.

But I’ve only bought stuff when I really needed it. No real need to buy more pronts unless I actively need to use them, so I think it’s mostly been some TSO dupes + I think some King’s Countenance dupes + event/limited stuff. Plus I’ve had some luck with drops; I definitely expect to have a MUB Heavenly Holiday by the time of High Zodiark since I’ve already gotten a couple and had 2 to start with, and I’m similarly hoping that I won’t need to buy stuff like Levin’s/RR as I’ve gotten some from drops. Might have to spring for something for High Mercury, but depending on which prints I go with and what I farm for soon, even there I might be sorta supported by drops...

meanwhile, I splurged and finally made Sword Squad’s weapons last night after talking about it forever...

(prints are all shared and not dupes and kinda arbitrary, the original sword is the same one and the fire 5.3 is the same one, I just enhanced to fire + used 2 ingots + dismantled + crafted the 3 swords)
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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If there’s a Wyrmprint I want/need, I generally buy the first two discounted copies and try to farm/key the rest if they’re not limited.
 

deepFlaw

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Well, yeah, that’s the other thing; I haven’t really used keys yet so I’m trying not to buy too many of one, unless it’s the event prints where I might want them on everyone. And... even then, thinking about it, I could always key for the first UB on one and just have 2 dupes. I only bought 3 Heralds with the keys in mind, at least. Probably shoulda bought only a couple TSOs and keyed the rest too, but oh well.
 

Vilifier

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Oct 25, 2017
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Everyone here is showing some great restraint in regards to the Wyrmprint Shop. As opposed to myself; who went on a buying spree grabbing 2UB or MUB of all the Wyrmprints from that Wyrmprint Recommendation cheat sheet.

Trying to upgrade my Wyrmprints to lvl 100 using those daily 3x Consecrated Waters from the shop is like filling a swimming pool using a Dixie cup.
 

Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
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I spent a bunch of eldwater promoting Mym to 50 this afternoon despite already having Marth at 50 as well. She's my favorite, and I love her, so I'll gladly pay the cost.
 

Apollo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Finally crafted my first 5t3s tonight- an axe for Yue, and a dagger for Francesca. Really puts into perspective how many dang rupies this stuff costs.
 

Sölf

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Oct 25, 2017
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First I wanted to use half my honey on fire and the other half on water. But since I can't reliably auto water I think I may just use ashes on that and burn through my honey today. May finally 30 my bow dojos then. :D
 

XuandeXun

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May 16, 2019
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Everyone here is showing some great restraint in regards to the Wyrmprint Shop. As opposed to myself; who went on a buying spree grabbing 2UB or MUB of all the Wyrmprints from that Wyrmprint Recommendation cheat sheet.

Trying to upgrade my Wyrmprints to lvl 100 using those daily 3x Consecrated Waters from the shop is like filling a swimming pool using a Dixie cup.
I don't show restraint here - if I see a Wyrmprint that I can make reasonable use out of, I'm willing to go broke on Eldwater to MUB it on the spot. I got Study Rabbits MUB yesterday, not because I have some HDT plans with it, but because Cibella has been one of my core units for a long time. This is the first +HP Wyrmprint we've gotten, and +8% HP means 8% larger HP Shields for myself and anyone who uses my Cibella helper. Once I manage to get it leveled, I should be generating near 1000 HP worth of Shield from her, but I'm always short on waters.

Likewise, if I'm not spending Wyrmite on refills (which I do often enough, I hit Lv150 recently), I don't save it for 10-pulls or specific banners unless an event just started that can get me a 10-pull on the same day. By spending small amounts regularly on the 7-day Resource Pack, I have Daily Deals to make up for my inefficiency on specific banners, and its a game at the end of the day. I played F/GO the same way until I dropped it for DL.
 

Pbae

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Oct 26, 2017
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How many wrymsmiths y’all got?

I feel like I might have neglected my castle too much while only focusing on characters and mana circles.
 

Vilifier

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't show restraint here - if I see a Wyrmprint that I can make reasonable use out of, I'm willing to go broke on Eldwater to MUB it on the spot.
Yup, that's how I've been approaching Wyrmprints.

If I can find a use for a Wyrmprint; I'll grab a 2UB/MUB copy since I'll likely continue to find uses for it down the line.

On the flip side; I've only used Eldwater to 50MC one adventurer, Xainfried. I ended up pulling Fjorm weeks later and was hit with instant regret.

How many wrymsmiths y’all got?

I feel like I might have neglected my castle too much while only focusing on characters and mana circles.
I bought the max amount of Wyrmsmiths. I'm around Halidom lvl 816 and all 5 have been working non-stop since I returned to the game a few months back.
 

XuandeXun

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May 16, 2019
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I maxed out builders about a month after launch.

Useful then, but most days I have 0-2 of the 5 busy. I'm currently in the Silver/Gold Coin drought, with around half of my Dojos at max level and the other half at Lv20-29. I'm not active in most of the High Dragon Trials either.
 

Pbae

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Oct 26, 2017
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Thanks for the replies. Didn't know wrymsmiths topped out at 5 and since I'm at 782 right now I might as well chug along with 3.
 

Rae

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Mar 7, 2019
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Should I keep rerolling for Albert? So far my luck has been poor and I've only gotten 1x 5* dragon.
 

riveria

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Oct 25, 2017
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I never rerolled, and ended up buying a dream ticket to finally get Lily. At the time the first free adventurer was a 4* though. Now it should be much easier to get the desired character eventually, but I hope for you the pool is not limited like the 5* ticket one (which does not have several recent units including Albert). Good luck otherwise.
 

cw_sasuke

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Oct 27, 2017
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Should I keep rerolling for Albert? So far my luck has been poor and I've only gotten 1x 5* dragon.
Honestly this really isnt a game where you need to re-roll.
Just play the game you will get more useful and interesting characters down the line through events and freebies rather fast.
 

XuandeXun

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May 16, 2019
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Should I keep rerolling for Albert? So far my luck has been poor and I've only gotten 1x 5* dragon.
If you're rerolling for gameplay reasons, Xander is easier to get (part of the guaranteed 5* pool) and does roughly the same job Albert does. What Xander gives up in wide area effect coverage, he gains in superior snowballing over time with kills. Both are Force Strike+50% Sword monsters designed for crowd control.

Besides, Albert benefits greatly from a Limited Wyrmprint (Chocolatiers) and loses a lot of his general potential without it. My Xander sees frequent use, but my Albert rides the bench in favor of Odetta when I need a Light Sword.