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Pygrus

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Oct 27, 2017
638
came back to the game a couple of days ago. So many needed QoL improvements. The new Fafnir event is cool also.
 

PMS341

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Oct 29, 2017
2,692
The banner looks nice, but my Wind team is p. good right now (Lin You, Addis, Maribelle and Lowen) and I would really maybe only want the Dragon. Still, the designs are nice.

Just blasted through 20 levels of both the Wind and Fire gauntlets, seems pretty straightforward. I did cut it close to time around 19-20, but overall it was very easy.
 

Vilifier

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Oct 25, 2017
231
Thank goodness the new banner isn't limited. I've been wanting a 5* Wind Sword and would have likely spent my entire stock trying to get Elisanne. My Wyrmite stash lives to see another banner.

I'm enjoying the new Gauntlet; not having to use stamina is great. It's a good way to test teams to see which elements need improvement. My Fire team cruised through the Gauntlet while my Light team is stuck on lvl 16. The extra Twinkling Sands also helped me craft the 5* elemental staff for Hildegarde officially giving me 1x 5* elemental weapon per element.
 

ElFly

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Oct 27, 2017
854
I assume the lack of champion testaments is their whale bait

only way to get some is to purchase a pack that's expensive and gives you 4 of them

may also explain why they are concentrating on 5* (who require a champion testament to unlock the last mana circle) over 4* and 3*
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
13,394
Not at all tempted by the banner, though the units look decently powerful. At least they aren't limited, and I can look forward to getting spooked by them in future gala banners. Dragon and (4*) healer units are especially on fire lately.

So with the repeat facility event, for those who are familiar with other gacha game precedents/mechanics, I would assume we don't get a second wind shrine, but will still get rewards for leveling/having it fully leveled up? I sure hope so, as that's some (more) easy free wyrmite right there. I'm also curious if the wyrmprint bonuses from the last time around will be intact. I have kept all of my facility event wyrmprints thus far, so this event will determine if I should keep them for future repeats, or finally sell them for eldwater. I know there's no way of knowing for sure until we see the reality of it tomorrow, but just curious if it can be reliably predicted.
I’ve also largely not unbound my event prints... which is why I keep having print storage issues, lol.

My guess is that they’ll work again, but that the 3* will also just be in the event shop like it was for FE? They’ve already been dropping from things anyway, of course, but I feel like that’d make sense.
 

toastyToast

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Oct 26, 2017
1,146
I assume the lack of champion testaments is their whale bait

only way to get some is to purchase a pack that's expensive and gives you 4 of them

may also explain why they are concentrating on 5* (who require a champion testament to unlock the last mana circle) over 4* and 3*
The issue is moreso that we haven't had facility events in a while. Aside from the mountain of single tickets we get, raids are garbage as far as rewards go.

Event tomorrow should give 3 testaments and substantial amount of consecrated water.
 

XuandeXun

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May 16, 2019
194
I find that complaints about Champion Testaments tend to come either from new players (understandable) or players who are rarity snobs sitting on 40+ Knight's Testaments. Lower rarities have been buffed so much since launch that they're hardly distinguishable from natural 5*s now, unless you're trying to force one of the dozen or so 3* characters with a bad kit to be meta.

5* characters cost up to three Champion Testaments each - one to break into the final mana circle, one to pick up the Lv3 version of their Skill 1 in that circle, and one to hit Mana Circle 50/Damascus Crystal.

3* and 4* characters only cost up to one Champion Testament, and its the least important one, the one that hits Mana Circle 50/Damascus Crystal. Yes, promoting does cost Eldwater, but we've been positively flooded in that lately - between the backpay from summoning changes (which also roughly doubled Eldwater income per pull going forward), frequent Wyrmprint drops in regular missions, increased event rewards, etc.

Between 3* and 4* rarities, I've promoted 15 of them to 5* rarity, 13 of which still get fielded in my teams, with 6 of those on a maxed Co-Ability. While I have 20 natural 5* characters, only 8 of those get used in my teams, with only 4 having a maxed Co-Ability.

I own Lucretia and Amane. Today I put Xiao Lei to maxed Co-Ability, because I think she's a much more valuable character than her alternatives. When it comes to strictly timed content, the variance of a Crit Rate/Crit Damage buff is very helpful, especially in AI hands. That's not even factoring in how her quick Skill 1 backed by a 20% Skill Damage passive is enough on its own to outdamage her higher rarity peers. Lucretia is still at Mana Circle 40, because I don't believe she's worth the Champion Testaments just to be a worse Xiao Lei. Energy simply isn't a pushed enough mechanic to make her kit any good, with each layer of energy only counting for Skill Damage/Healing Potency+10% for one skill activation per party member, and that's assuming best case scenario where you distribute a multiple of 5 Energy over the course of a fight.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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Meanwhile, I’m at 6 champions currently and 66 knights; I have pretty much 0 reason to promote anyone else or get >45 mana currently. Similarly, 52 sands (with more to come from the rest of Gauntlet) as I’ve effectively only made 2 5.3s. I’ll make my Mercury alt’s (if I even do that at this point), and probably continue to make a few more that aren’t “optimal”/needed, but otherwise I’m not inclined to care too much about them just yet. If anything I should just pick ones that I might end up making and get 5.2.4s, since the 5.2.0s I’m still using could stand to be improved. But of course, I also have like 16 bricks so even some 4.3.4s might be a better idea in some cases (I might take Curran’s axe up from 4.3.0 to help beat that last stage, at least).

I really just want them to give us coins.
 

mockingbird

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Oct 27, 2017
616
I find that complaints about Champion Testaments tend to come either from new players (understandable) or players who are rarity snobs sitting on 40+ Knight's Testaments. Lower rarities have been buffed so much since launch that they're hardly distinguishable from natural 5*s now, unless you're trying to force one of the dozen or so 3* characters with a bad kit to be meta.
Or people who don't have nor want to spend 25,000 + eldwater on promoting a unit, like myself =P
I'd rather use the eldwater on wyrmprints or 5th circle unbinds.
 

Vilifier

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Oct 25, 2017
231
Or people who don't have nor want to spend 25,000 + eldwater on promoting a unit, like myself =P
I'd rather use the eldwater on wyrmprints or 5th circle unbinds.
This is my dilemma as well. It's 19k/37k Eldwater for a 2UB/MUB 5* Wyrmprint. I'm getting more Eldwater value by grabbing different Wyrmprints from the shop then unlocking the 5th Mana Circle and taking an Adventurer from 40MC to 45MC.
 

XuandeXun

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May 16, 2019
194
Players who are sufficiently new or hoarding will want to buy Wyrmprints, that's natural. But at some point you're hitting diminishing returns, both in terms of Consecrated Waters and in terms of net benefit. At some point, you'll own enough relevant Skill Damage+XX%, Force Strike+XX%, Dragon Prep+10%, and niche Wyrmprints (Status Res for HDTs, Regen for Auto AI, etc) that you won't benefit much from more and won't have the Waters to level them even if you could. You can only fill eight slots after all, and some of the welfare/event Wyrmprints do a pretty good job at subbing in.

I would recommend going for generalized Wyrmprints like Resounding Rendition, Levin's Champion, or Flash of Genius over specific niches like Flower in the Fray (which is recommended to compliment Kung Fu Masters for Axes, but has literally no other meta use and isn't beating alternatives by much) or Dragon and Tamer (Lance-only, but more realistically Halloween Elisanne vs High Zodiark only thanks to a narrow second effect). Wyrmprint tier lists do a lot of harm in making players believe that best-in-slot is way better than their close alternatives, and Consecrated Water is a limited resource unless you're dumping mass Wyrmite/Dia into daily Item Summons or refills during Water-dropping events.

There's also the consideration that most characters do just fine at 4* Rarity, 40 Mana Circle (2500 Eldwater for 3* promote). If you're doing High Dragon Trial farming then you'll want more for the characters involved, but very few players do Solo HDTs so you typically only need that level of investment for one, maybe two characters per HDT.
 
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Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
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Or people who don't have nor want to spend 25,000 + eldwater on promoting a unit, like myself =P
I'd rather use the eldwater on wyrmprints or 5th circle unbinds.
This is me.

If all it cost was Knight Testaments, I'd promote so many of my 3/4* characters. It has nothing to do with me being a "rarity snob", it's just not worth the eldwater cost for me, when I could use that to instead for fifth circle unbinds or purchasing wyrmprints.
 

Brazil

The Dude of Prophecy
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Oct 24, 2017
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São Paulo, Brazil
I take back my initial criticism of the Mercurial Gauntlet. It's a pretty handy and cool training dummy/DPS check tool for each of your teams. It gives you pretty solid goals to reach for when you're fiddling with new weapons and stuff.

Hopefully they'll add new levels to it with each month.
 

Baladium

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Apr 18, 2018
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It was always gonna be either Elly or Cleo (or maybe Xander) to become the first character with multiple alts. Now that Elly got hers, this opens the doors for other characters to get their own double alt.

Like Althemia. ♡

*(Although she probably won’t turn up again until next year at the earliest.)
 

ElFly

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Oct 27, 2017
854
got eli with a single and xania in the subsequent 10 pull

debating another 10 pull since my rates are now at 5%
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
13,394
More wind? Sure, I guess. Can probably deal with a few more, since I had Verica in my team.

Meanwhile I managed to auto all of dark. Last level took some luck for Albert’s skill timing + remembering to swap out an exp print + switching dragons around (probably shouldn’t have taken 10 minutes to realize swapping one of my 0UB Gils onto Lucretia instead of Cupid might help her stay alive), but they got it at the last second.
 

Razmos

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Oct 28, 2017
3,813
We are getting levels 21 to 40 of the mercurial gauntlet tomorrow. Yikes! Doubt I'll get much further if at all but I suppose it's meant to be a long term goal
 

Apollo

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Oct 25, 2017
2,316
Went pretty hard on the banner (10k wyrmite, 35 single tickets) since I want everything and came out pretty good results. 3 Elisannes, 3 Freyja, a random Simurgh, and my first Xander and Annelie. My eldwater has been replenished very nicely, but I’d still really like Aoi. Might single ticket for her from the event rewards alongside the daily deals, but at least she should be able to be suptixed at some point.

Also pulled my first Lindwurm, amusingly. That thing has eluded me for so long.
 

Razmos

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Oct 28, 2017
3,813
Many complained Gauntlet was easy. Cygames gonna come swinging with these 20 new floors.
The only people complaining it's too easy are the people with overly stacked teams who already steamroll all content anyway, they never said it was going to be tougher than the high dragon trials, the opposite in fact.
I'm fairly sure that to the vast majority of players its quite challenging.

Its annoying when mobile games design content around the top 1% of players and that is what runs the risk of happening if people complain everything is too easy
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
13,394
Tried to auto High Mercury Prelude. And as I was typing this, realized I hadn’t seen what a Hilde-using team would do, so tried that too.

So it’s definitely something I can solo just like HMS’s, then, and honestly maybe even actually auto after various building upgrades happen. Similarly, if I get off my ass and Lin becomes my alt, the upgrades for that should easily deal with it. Not like prints are optimal either (I didn’t want to repeat wastefully upgrading stun prints like with HMS’s this week, so I only slightly upgraded the bog/water resist prints on Hilde). My fire dracolith’s maxes after the recent double drop event, but now I can casually get the other two as well if I want, so that’s neat.
 

Wishy-Washy

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Nov 26, 2017
205
Did some single tickets, got the new Elly in 2, Xania in 4, did a couple more till the first pity but got nothing else. So now now my Wind team is Elly, Lin You, Louise, and Hildegarde, at least until I upgrade Xania or Lowen, might actually be able to auto IO more than half the time now.
 

ElFly

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Oct 27, 2017
854
ooooh dunno why I didn't realize the drawing of mym in a wedding dress was .... A WYRMPRINT

and a rather good one
 

Parshias

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Oct 25, 2017
689
Both new prints are amazing.

The Bridal Dragon is a shapeshift prep print with an actually useful second ability on it. It also has the added effect of totally blowing Fjorm HBH speedruns out of the water as you were already bringing King's Countenance and such a huge amount of your damage came from Leviathan. Grabbing this right away.

Halidom Grooms is our third ever Buff Time print, second ever neutral one. Its Bellathorna but with 4* stats and with a second ability. The second ability isn't mind blowing, but I'm sure Melody and Elisanne will appreciate the extra stats. You could even stack both prints to hit the 30% Buff Time cap, which might end up being the best combo since neither character provides much DPS from their own attacks and skills. (as further evidence of this, the new Skill Haste dragon is probably Melody's best option despite it not boosting strength at all because it lets her spam her S1 so much)
 

Razmos

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Oct 28, 2017
3,813
I absolutely love that the challenge battle can drop all of the event boosting wymrprints, facility events are so much better now
 

Vilifier

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Oct 25, 2017
231
That Bridal Dragon Wyrmprint looks made for Mym and Fjorm. I really need to learn how to speed clear Void Agni and HBH with Fjorm; I think I have all the needed pieces.

20 more levels of Wind Gauntlet tomorrow should put to rest how easy the Gauntlet is. In honesty, I think my Wind team can only muster 1 or 2 more levels.
 

Parshias

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Oct 25, 2017
689
With two event prints I had gotten pity broken in the time since the event first came out and getting a third as a lucky drop in the Challenge mode I'm sitting at +350% to the points on my event team. I'm probably going to be way past the one million mark as I'm at 500k right now and the only things I've gotten from the Treasure Trade are the two Champions Testaments. I need a ton more of the rare trade material to really get what I want out of the event shop.
 

ginnokane

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Oct 28, 2017
250
That Bridal Dragon Wyrmprint looks made for Mym and Fjorm. I really need to learn how to speed clear Void Agni and HBH with Fjorm; I think I have all the needed pieces.

20 more levels of Wind Gauntlet tomorrow should put to rest how easy the Gauntlet is. In honesty, I think my Wind team can only muster 1 or 2 more levels.
It may be silly to speculate given the levels will be added tomorrow, but I just don't see the 21-40 levels being the same linear difficulty progression as 1-20. It has to be some kind of new gimmick: added fafner enemies, a different time limit, etc. You would be needing something like 30k+ might teams when approaching level 40 if it's the same type of progression, and that just isn't feasible at the moment.
 

Vilifier

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Oct 25, 2017
231
It may be silly to speculate given the levels will be added tomorrow, but I just don't see the 21-40 levels being the same linear difficulty progression as 1-20. It has to be some kind of new gimmick: added fafner enemies, a different time limit, etc. You would be needing something like 30k+ might teams when approaching level 40 if it's the same type of progression, and that just isn't feasible at the moment.
30k+ Might may not be feasible now; but in a year or so? The Gauntlet really just seems like a giant punching bag to test out team compositions but also pays out rewards for hitting certain thresholds. The fact that the Treasure Trove level rolls over each month and pays out based on a range of total level tiers completed seems to reinforce that. I doubt CyGames will gate any monthly rewards behind total levels they think are unreachable.
 

Razmos

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Oct 28, 2017
3,813
Yeah the gauntlet definitely seems to be long term progressive content. I think the difficulty will rise above what is feasible right now, we dont know what the new adventurer upgrade feature entails yet, it could make it much easier
 

XuandeXun

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May 16, 2019
194
We are getting levels 21 to 40 of the mercurial gauntlet tomorrow. Yikes! Doubt I'll get much further if at all but I suppose it's meant to be a long term goal
Note that this is Lv21-40 of the Wind Gauntlet, not all elements. Flame should be one of the easier elements for teambuilding, considering that we just got a welfare character with Defense Down, along with a few other gacha-specific characters with Defense Down/Damage Up/AttackSpd Up (Vanessa, B.Ezelith, Sinoa, Marth, etc).
 

ElFly

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Oct 27, 2017
854
yeah, the gauntlet is a p good measure of team worth. my results so far:

-fire and dark are the strongest ones, they can easily auto lvl20. i don't have ieyasu but i do have mym and marth (but mym does not transform into a dragon in auto)

-green team can auto lvl 19 and semi auto lvl

-water can semi auto lvl 20 if I use an elisanne helper, and replace thaniel for cibella. There are probably othet team builds that can do better but so far this is my best: xander, cibella, orsem, lily

-light team is a complete fraud, and is stuck at lvl 16.
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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For anyone who wants an extra Elisanne friend helper, I’ve decided to replace Verica for a 50 MC Eli with MUB Bellathorna and MUB Halidom Grooms for max Strength buff possible (20% strength for 20 seconds) at the moment on my main. My Friend Code is: 4161 8701 375.

My F2P no pulls alt is more budget, using 40 MC Eli with MUB Bellathorna and 0 UB Halidom Grooms (though still have 30% buff time) for 15% Strength buff for full duration. FC: 2194 2797 534.
 
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ElFly

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Oct 27, 2017
854
the stories have improved lately

xania's uses Sinoa for a role that before would have gone to luca, sarisse or ranzal, and makes it feel less claustrophobic than the usual character stories (for example, xuan zang's uses Lin You, but only for one chapter)

There's also a castle story now that is an epilogue to a wish to the winds. it's nothing mindblowing, but it rules that it exists
 

Stryda

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Aug 20, 2018
218
Does the new 4 star print (Energy doublebuff and buff time) apply to Sarisse self buffs? Honestly insane if it does
 

ElFly

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Oct 27, 2017
854
it should not

doublebuffs only activate with defense buffs (the ones with a shield as an icon). Sarisse is an attack buff

maybe one day we will get attack double buff, but for now nope
 

Pygrus

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Oct 27, 2017
638
Man, I really want wedding Eli, spent 9k wyrmite. Got a lot of different 5star stuff, but no Wedding Eli.