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You're very early on, right?
It's not really worth it for you right now. Spend the eldwater on prints if you need to spend it. If you get to the point of high dragons, and you have no relevant 5* for the one you want to fight, then look up who you have in that element that's considered viable.
Otherwise... not many will actively benefit you much, compared to just using them at 4*. Many 4* are already pretty great. Very little content in this game requires 5* characters, and even then that's not a hard requirement.
After 40 pulls I get a blue spear user? Bummer. At least it was blue and not light or wind... I can at least use an off banner blue 5*
Back to not spending.
Back to not spending.
Fair enough!
Speaking of spending on water on prints...
Are there any I should be grabbing first? And do I spend enough to MUB or just snag an assortment and build them up from there? I've got 55k water and wouldn't mind grabbing a few good prints.
New Mercurial Gauntlet levels coming. Augments will help for levels beyond 40 as well as all these new facility levels.
Resounding Rendition is the jack of all trades option that pretty much all non-healers can use, with it being best in slot for many of them. Skill Damage is one of the most powerful Wyrmprint options, and Resounding Rendition pairs that with a powerful Crit secondary ability.
For weapon types that are more reliant on Force Strikes (Sword, and to a lesser degree Axe/Bow), the Force Strike +40-50% is also strong. The newest featured 5* Wyrmprint is deceptively powerful, pairing a decent Force Strike boost with a banked Skill Prep+75%. Other options include 5* Stellar Show and 4* Fresh Perspectives. Avoid the rest, for now.
Swords want 5* The Shining Overlord, Axes want 5* Kung Fu Mastery. Although 5* Dragon and Tamer is decent on Lances, it doesn't significantly outperform Resounding Rendition, so it isn't a priority.
For 3*, Dragon's Nest is a good option if you want a small or fast upgrade to 2* Dragon Arcanum. Get used to wearing Shapeshift Prep+10% on at least three characters during Raid events, and possibly the upcoming Astral Raids as well. Its the single best way that a newer player can contribute to a veteran player's damage output, since the Prep is shared among all teammates. The long term goal is probably to own three 4* King's Countenance and one 5* The Bridal Queen, but as a new player that will cost way too much Eldwater and you can get by just fine with the lower rarity replacements.
If you make frequent use of Elisanne or Melody, 3* Bellathorna and 4* Halidom Groom are strong options. As you work through Mercurial Gauntlet, try to find Elisanne Helpers who wear one of these and one Shapeshift print.
In general, I would recommend max unbinding each print before moving to the next. You want your player-controlled character to do well in Co-Op, before worrying too much about the quality of AI character Wyrmprints - they can get away with wearing just Shapeshift Prep + Anything for a long time. But there are plenty of players who would disagree with me on this point, so its personal preference. Do not, however, worry about getting your MUB Wyrmprints to Lv100 until you are very secure with your surplus Water - the cost to level is exponential, so stop somewhere in the Lv40-80 range for now.
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Regarding Mercurial, keep in mind that the levels are a trick - Wind Roy has the lowest HP per level, and Flame Roy has the second lowest. Don't over-invest to clear these, because harder elements are coming. Renee looks broken for Flame Roy, considering that Elisanne is likely to eat up the slot that you would want to run Jakob in. Speaking from experience, AI Renee is already busted in speeding up Flame IO clear times, and you don't even have to worry about her wasting Bog on chaff. Because Bog is so good, you'll want to consider not running Freeze characters (Lily/Fjorm/XCleo) if you can help it, though Fjorm is busted enough that she might prove to be an exception if you're on the Last Offense plan.
For setups with Ranged characters, wait to do Mercurial Gauntlet until the end of the month. They're losing the penalty to short-range damage, which could significantly help the AI's damage output against Roy.
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Thanks for the explanation! Very very helpful info. Seems like there is a LOT to digest early on as I'm building teams to farm stuff.
The hardest part about coming into games like this after they've been going for a while is getting caught up. There's always 100 things to do on top of a limited event, ha.
Speaking of which, how are people already done with the farming for this event? I only just broke 100k last night.
The hardest part about coming into games like this after they've been going for a while is getting caught up. There's always 100 things to do on top of a limited event, ha.
Speaking of which, how are people already done with the farming for this event? I only just broke 100k last night.
Having the Featured Wyrmprints in a Facility Event greatly increases the speed at which you get points (Mettle in this case). Also, usually the beginning of a Facility Event is about getting the Expert/EX endeavors done first so you can level your building. Once you switch to just Challenge runs, the Mettle will come in much faster, so don't worry about it.
You don't need to buy the bonus Wyrmprints to finish on time, but you will want to grind out Challenge on Expert once you can handle it. If you can't, wait for your event building to level up more.
Thanks for pointing this out, I saw the notice and thought it sounded terrible since it only triggers 3 times per fight but putting it on the AI makes perfect sense
And you don't even have to Force Strike three times. It triggers per enemy hit, not per non-whiffed Force Strike. For example, I can take Lin You to Water Imperials and open with Roll->Force Strike, which hits three enemies and immediately gives 75% Skill Prep.
phew got my master clear at statue level 19. Probably could have got it done sooner but I was too lazy to take off all the level 1 mettle grinding prints from my dudes lol.
So I got suggestion on Discord to drop Ezelith for Karl on my fire squad. I did so, and it made a pretty big difference.
What makes Ezelith such a poor choice?
What makes Ezelith such a poor choice?
basially, her s1 is horrible, its a dps loss, she's def in need for a rebalance.
Cleared Master yesterday with 30 seconds still left on the clock, Arctos facility at 13. Ramona just whips, and as long as you avoid his belly flop (I feel conditioned after previous troll bosses...) it really isn't too bad of a fight. My team was around 19k might, and all were above 45MC (Ramona, Mikoto, Student Maribelle, Verica). I used a V.Hilde helper to pop a heal every time I hit the red.
And now I just maxed out Mettle thanks to getting 25k per Challenge Battle and letting them all Auto me some rewards. Don't know why I rushed it really.
And now I just maxed out Mettle thanks to getting 25k per Challenge Battle and letting them all Auto me some rewards. Don't know why I rushed it really.
As Drax mentioned, it's mainly (but not exclusively) her first skill being a problem. It looks impressive... but it does very little damage for the length. Many adventurers depend on their skills for a lot of their overall damage, and so if a skill has a long animation it can be a problem if the damage doesn't actually make up for it, especially as that's time you could be charging other skills (or a second use of that skill).
Let's look at the damage modifiers on some other relatively long skill 1s, at skill level 3:
Ieyasu said:
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Meanwhile, Ezelith's is, well...
Ezelith said:
...yeah. And on top of that, her second skill mixes poorly with the first skill and her ability.
Eze skill 2 said:
Eze Flurry Debilitator said:
So... it boosts your strength, which normally would = time to use attack skills. But to actually inflict the def debuff you have to be doing normal attacks instead. And I think normal attacks would probably boost your combo count faster than the skill 1 (assuming you can successfully skill 1->skill 2 without dropping the combo anyway), so you'd really want to be doing normal attacks instead to make the debuffs land.
She's not unfixable; even just boosting the skill 1 damage would be a great start. Making it skill shift would be even better- especially if it gets a chance to debuff too. But I think ideally, you'd really want to rework her skill 2 + abilities a bit as well to make it a little more sensible.
Naveed/Cerberus | Mikoto/Ifrit | Verica/Phoenix all using an event Wyrmprint. I should say I'm semi-autoing; I shapeshift at the start of round 4 to kill all of the enemies and help speed up the run.
Cleared the Master challenge battle on my F2P NOTTE spending alt with a level 20 facility.
My team was Euden/Xuan Zang/Botan/Cleo. Because I'm prioritizing the Gauntlet for my upgrades, I 5*'d and gave a 5.3 core weapon to Xuan Zang over Melsa since she's got better DPS. I'm using Botan over Melsa as well since Botan has a MUB 5.3 core weapon, a 30% Strength welfare dragon, and 50 MC while Melsa is still using a 4.3 core weapon, base Brunhilda, and is still just a 4*. Once I get around to everyone being 5* and using 5.3 core weapons, I can start considering replacing Botan, but for now she's still my 2nd most invested adventurer after Euden.
I'll probably go for a deathless Master run when I get a level 30 facility. For now I can just casually grind my way to 1 million points.
The free daily deal on my F2P NOTTE spending alt got me an Althemia. Maybe I'll eventually accrue all the 3* wand waifus. Still not planning on using any of them, but I can at least catalog that we've gotten 3 free daily deals and a tutorial summon for non-voucher summons since launch.
My team was Euden/Xuan Zang/Botan/Cleo. Because I'm prioritizing the Gauntlet for my upgrades, I 5*'d and gave a 5.3 core weapon to Xuan Zang over Melsa since she's got better DPS. I'm using Botan over Melsa as well since Botan has a MUB 5.3 core weapon, a 30% Strength welfare dragon, and 50 MC while Melsa is still using a 4.3 core weapon, base Brunhilda, and is still just a 4*. Once I get around to everyone being 5* and using 5.3 core weapons, I can start considering replacing Botan, but for now she's still my 2nd most invested adventurer after Euden.
I'll probably go for a deathless Master run when I get a level 30 facility. For now I can just casually grind my way to 1 million points.
The free daily deal on my F2P NOTTE spending alt got me an Althemia. Maybe I'll eventually accrue all the 3* wand waifus. Still not planning on using any of them, but I can at least catalog that we've gotten 3 free daily deals and a tutorial summon for non-voucher summons since launch.
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Man the drop rates for this event are terrible or I'm incredibly unlucky. Am at 300k mettle and haven't gotten a single rare drop outside of a couple weapons.
Alright thanks, I have Marth/Mikoto/Ramona/Verica but can't seem to auto it yet with the event wyrmprint. Maybe when my facility gets higher.
Alright thanks, I have Marth/Mikoto/Ramona/Verica but can't seem to auto it yet with the event wyrmprint. Maybe when my facility gets higher.
Followup: HBH
So I have two clears to my name now, one dead and one alive, from self-hosted anything goes rooms.
* Aeleen: I'm still torn on how to spec her gear. I haven't figured out yet how to get past two minutes or so without Burn Immunity wearing off if I use Immunity x3 and there's no Shield user in the room, and that spells death for me or death for those who have to tank Pillar without me. Either way, I'll usually die to Purple before the Burn wears off. Alternatively, I can wear both Burn Res 50% Wyrmprints, but then I'm roulette to die without at least a 11% HP or Def Co-Ability, and I'm fragile in general for Pillar/Purple rotations if I don't play my heals perfectly. I made the 5* Void Weapon to get around roulette using the 4* Elemental, but then I have one less heal. All sets are using MUB Simurgh.
* 45 MC Elisanne: Amazing how my rooms flood with Lance users, except when I try to play Elisanne. And then a greedy Lily build dies because they're counting on my Co-Ability that I don't have. She's my most HBH-prepared option, and I see little reason to deviate from HBH Print+Burn Res 50% on MUB 5* Elemental+MUB Levi. I don't have the full bait rotation down yet, and it annoys me that yet again I seem stuck playing that role much of the time.
* 50 MC Cibella: Obviously a significant hit to DPS relative to Elisanne, so I decided to embrace that with a Simurgh+HBH Print+3x Immunity set. Because Shield is omnipresent, I don't burn through all of the immunities. If a Thaniel or any other Defense+ character is present, I can successfully Shield the entire party vs 4-way Pillar and Purple, making the healer's job very easy. I don't expect to get much in the way of clears, but this is otherwise a great setup when multiple newer HBH runners are in the room, or if a Lily build forces me on 50 MC.
I'm not really happy with any of these options so far.
That's normal. The last event was an outlier, New Year's has been great for drops both times it was ran for different reasons, but most events are like this one - not particularly worth farming unless you need a resource sink.
So I have two clears to my name now, one dead and one alive, from self-hosted anything goes rooms.
* Aeleen: I'm still torn on how to spec her gear. I haven't figured out yet how to get past two minutes or so without Burn Immunity wearing off if I use Immunity x3 and there's no Shield user in the room, and that spells death for me or death for those who have to tank Pillar without me. Either way, I'll usually die to Purple before the Burn wears off. Alternatively, I can wear both Burn Res 50% Wyrmprints, but then I'm roulette to die without at least a 11% HP or Def Co-Ability, and I'm fragile in general for Pillar/Purple rotations if I don't play my heals perfectly. I made the 5* Void Weapon to get around roulette using the 4* Elemental, but then I have one less heal. All sets are using MUB Simurgh.
* 45 MC Elisanne: Amazing how my rooms flood with Lance users, except when I try to play Elisanne. And then a greedy Lily build dies because they're counting on my Co-Ability that I don't have. She's my most HBH-prepared option, and I see little reason to deviate from HBH Print+Burn Res 50% on MUB 5* Elemental+MUB Levi. I don't have the full bait rotation down yet, and it annoys me that yet again I seem stuck playing that role much of the time.
* 50 MC Cibella: Obviously a significant hit to DPS relative to Elisanne, so I decided to embrace that with a Simurgh+HBH Print+3x Immunity set. Because Shield is omnipresent, I don't burn through all of the immunities. If a Thaniel or any other Defense+ character is present, I can successfully Shield the entire party vs 4-way Pillar and Purple, making the healer's job very easy. I don't expect to get much in the way of clears, but this is otherwise a great setup when multiple newer HBH runners are in the room, or if a Lily build forces me on 50 MC.
I'm not really happy with any of these options so far.
That's normal. The last event was an outlier, New Year's has been great for drops both times it was ran for different reasons, but most events are like this one - not particularly worth farming unless you need a resource sink.
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I have Mikoto on my team; but he typically dies right at the start of round 5. I keep switching between Mikoto and Vanessa and I think I'm having more consistency with Vanessa. Maybe swap Mikoto for Xuan Zang since you already have Ramona.
Xuan Zang does an additional 20-25% because of her Demihuman's Babe ability and her S2 Defense Down seems to speed up the last round.
Gave the Gauntlet a couple more attempts on my F2P NOTTE spending alt. Managed to clear a couple more levels using Botan/Euden/Xuan Zang/Melsa. Since my Elisanne still only uses an HP dragon (and it's wind content so her already small DPS is cut even more), I think Melsa's still the better choice even with Eli's buff and Peng Lai's Bog; her buffing is just not good enough compared to Melsa for me because my dragons aren't exactly ideal, so a 20% more strength buff is less impactful for me compared to folks who use 4* and 5* Strength dragons.
This was the exact load out I used to clear 25/26:
Gonna give it another try when we get the Gauntlet Elwater and I can 5* Melsa. I'll try to make her a 5.3 core weapon as well to help out.
This was the exact load out I used to clear 25/26:
Gonna give it another try when we get the Gauntlet Elwater and I can 5* Melsa. I'll try to make her a 5.3 core weapon as well to help out.
Personally, I've had multiple print drops across Master/EX boss so far. A couple of the event prints but also a copy of the new 5* print, which is good as I'm probably gonna end up buying it anyway.
so that's usually what I get in total and so I don't expect to see any more for the 2/3 remaining mettle, but...
so that's usually what I get in total and so I don't expect to see any more for the 2/3 remaining mettle, but...
Holy crap, it helps to go in to the free daily summon expecting nothing, because I just summoned a dupe Naveed yesterday and now a dupe Simurgh today. Never in a million years did I expect back-to-back freebie 5★ pulls! I'll gladly take that eldwater and a dragon unbind, thankyouverymuch!
I thought it was against forum rules to share graphic footage of things getting SAVAGELY MURDERED INTO OBLIVION.
Well, they also stacked a lot of strength buffs- I think that's Tough Love + Sarisse + some Sinoa rng (though they seemingly got an HP buff immediately so it didn't need much luck in their favor)? If they've 50 MC'd everyone, having skill haste + skill damage + strength co-abilities at max (particularly strength) is gonna help a lot too.
But yeah, damn. Even the longer runs I've seen going around are impressive.
But yeah, damn. Even the longer runs I've seen going around are impressive.
Skill Damage+70% Dragons were a clever way to hide some power creep, I'll give Cygames that.
But if we actually had in-game data on what each skill has for modifiers, this would be a lot easier to see coming. Which is why we don't. Its easier to believe everything is similar DPS when the main difference is massive buffs to hidden modifiers.
But if we actually had in-game data on what each skill has for modifiers, this would be a lot easier to see coming. Which is why we don't. Its easier to believe everything is similar DPS when the main difference is massive buffs to hidden modifiers.
So 4 Thaniel HBH clear is now a thing.
Free daily deal got me Taro on my F2P NOTTE spending alt. I do appreciate getting 3* adventurers over 3* dragons. I enjoy getting a slightly fuller Halidom over the baby dragons. We've now gotten 4 daily deals and a tutorial summon for free non-voucher summons since launch.
I actually had a lot more spare Wyrmprints than I thought and was able to get another level of Wind Gauntlet through 5* promoting Melsa and getting her a 5.3 core weapon. Gonna need to better optimize my Wyrmprints since I still mostly use the welfare ones. Once I 5* all my usable adventurers I can start focusing on that, which should hopefully push my DPS decently, especially if we get a re-run of Pele's raid so I could have a second 30% strength fire dragon.
Free daily deal got me Taro on my F2P NOTTE spending alt. I do appreciate getting 3* adventurers over 3* dragons. I enjoy getting a slightly fuller Halidom over the baby dragons. We've now gotten 4 daily deals and a tutorial summon for free non-voucher summons since launch.
I actually had a lot more spare Wyrmprints than I thought and was able to get another level of Wind Gauntlet through 5* promoting Melsa and getting her a 5.3 core weapon. Gonna need to better optimize my Wyrmprints since I still mostly use the welfare ones. Once I 5* all my usable adventurers I can start focusing on that, which should hopefully push my DPS decently, especially if we get a re-run of Pele's raid so I could have a second 30% strength fire dragon.
Yeah, it's like a whole class up instead of a level up. I take it the strategy needed is Ramona + Skill Dragon =/
Augments would help too, of course. But we're limited on those materials at the moment.
I really liked Chelle in this chapter.
So who will be the Gala character?
Leif?
Patia?
Cleo in an ugly dress?
Just kidding, we all know it'll be Leif.
a sly, cunning ojousama who is still an ally is refreshing after the rest of Eden's family so far.
So who will be the Gala character?
Leif?
Patia?
Cleo in an ugly dress?
Just kidding, we all know it'll be Leif.
It's either going to be Leif or Cleo for sure unless they go crazy and give us Chelle (can you imagine if she did her Ojou laugh in combat?)
If it is Cleo I imagine it will in the red dress, as it is gifted to her by Chelle in the EX stage.
At this point I'd rather it be Cleo because a Gala Shadow Healer would be incredible and I'd love to see what they'd do with a unit like that
If it is Cleo I imagine it will in the red dress, as it is gifted to her by Chelle in the EX stage.
At this point I'd rather it be Cleo because a Gala Shadow Healer would be incredible and I'd love to see what they'd do with a unit like that
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