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Dragon Ball FighterZ |OT| Heaven or HFIL
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Traditional versus game knowledge classifies fighters in a team as point/middle/anchor. The middle is sometimes the assist character but not always (that could be the anchor too.)
Point: The character who leads the battle in your team. They are usually characters who have great movement or mixups and don't require a lot of meter usage to do damage. Because the point character has access to both assists, they get their pressure and damage from extended combos or strings using the assist. Think Wolverine in MvC3 or Trunks/A16/A.Gohan in this game. The point character builds more meter than they use, which can be utilized by their teammates.
Middle/Assist: The middle character takes over after the point dies. The middle character usually fits one of two roles: a) doing big damage using the anchor's assist and meter built by point; OR b) being the filler assist character for the team when the anchor is the main damage dealer/comeback character. Almost any character can be example of (a). For examples of (b) think of Dr.Doom in UMvC3, or Vegeta in this game.
Anchor/Assist: Like the middle character, the anchor can play one of two roles. (a) a comeback character who can steal games off solo OR (b) a character picked only for their assist and put in the last spot so they can assist both point or middle. Example of the former could be Tien. Example of latter is vegeta or Goku Black. I guess Kid Buu fits either category because of how stupid his offence is.
However, this is traditional versus knowledge where kills come quick and easy (like in UMvC3). This setup might not work in Fighterz because characters are well rounded and there's no character who's only good at being assist or damage dealing. Sonicfox put it nicely.
Yeah, it seems to read the current connection quality and not the overall quality. I've seen the connection icon change during the match found screen, event hough I've configured to only connect with 4+ bars.
I often read here about anchor, middle, main... I'm the only one that changes my team depending on my opponent?
I find some chars. more effective or easy to use against some other, so I actually change them during battle also in considering who i am fighting.
I find some chars. more effective or easy to use against some other, so I actually change them during battle also in considering who i am fighting.
playing on a XB1 controller on PC
haven't had any trouble pulling quarter circles. switch to half circles if its not working out. if that doesn't pan out either then consider buying a dedicated fightpad like the Hori Fighting Commando
On block you can punish it always. Delay the 2H.
Also won my weekly again this week @ Xanadu. This time without dropping a single set.
Mostly used Trunks/Goku Black/SSJ Vegeta until Winner's Finals and Grand Finals where I used Adult Gohan/SSJ Goku/SSJ Vegeta.
You're saying that DP xx Vanish is punishable before they re-appear with a delayed 2H? You sure about that? I'll try it out next time I play, but it seemed air tight to me.
Oh man, thanks. It seemed straight up busted when I was going against a player who just kept abusing it earlier, but now I see I was giving it too much respect. It's fun to learn all these new things in a fighting game.
While it is pretty early to make tier lists, it's interesting seeing these. A list of how much a character shows up in the teams of the top 100 players on PSN, and a potential assist tier list which I think can start being discussed. I mostly agree with this person's take on it.... but I think Gotenks assist has a lot of room to be explored, and 18's might be not just decent, but amazing if more setups with it are found.
That's so me.
I do use story mode to get a little bit of practice, but in a real match I can hardly pull off anything and just revert back to mashing. I just have such a hard time opening up people who know how to guard well, and then when I do get a hit in I can never convert it into a combo because I'm already frantically hitting buttons. The lag certainly doesn't help either.
I finally managed to get a copy of this game and boy is unlocking Blue Vegeta/Goku gonna be tedious... it's real dumb that these two along with 21 aren't unlocked when you buy the season pass.
If you bought the Season pass, then Android 21 can be unlocked for free. At least that was the case for me on US PSN. It's possible it's not on Steam/X1 or other PSN regions.
Huh, I'm planning to get the season pass soon so that's good to know, I hope it's the case with blue Vegeta and Goku.
It is not, Blue Vegeter and Goku were only unlocked if you pre-ordered.
You gotta get them the old fashioned way.
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It's available on the other platforms as well via the FighterZ pass.
I have been talking with my friends for awhile about U.Gohan's assist and it just not being all that great (and usually pretty unreliable in corner extensions) and I feel kinda vindicated about this.
Because of this, I have been coming more around to Point U.Gohan.
You have no idea how happy this makes me.
For some people that just loved using their bars on Vanish, Vegeta DP into Vanish was just crazy. I am totally going to blow a Vegeta the fuck up the next time I see one online that tries this.
Because of this, I have been coming more around to Point U.Gohan.
You have no idea how happy this makes me.
For some people that just loved using their bars on Vanish, Vegeta DP into Vanish was just crazy. I am totally going to blow a Vegeta the fuck up the next time I see one online that tries this.
He's a very good point character. I'm guessing it's because his assist isn't great people don't pick him as often as he kind of limits your team building options.
Edit: somehow I read the post as 'adult gohan', oops
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I'm probably biased because I use him, but I feel like people are sleeping on him if he's not played much.
He's the perfect anchor if you're looking for someone to pop sparking and make a comeback. He can get 8k damage solo from 3 bars, which is huge.
His assist isn't great, although it's good for beating super dashes.
I play him but will be dropping him soon. His ground conversions are poor and his assist isn't as good as I'd like.
I like him a lot actually (as an anchor with level 3 sparking he is a beast), and since my point character is 16, I call his assist right as he dunks the other character and I can extend the combo from anywhere on the screen. He also has great damage, and his level 5 super is really good and looks cool. But his range is a problem, and his solo combos can be a pain. Adult Gohan is WAY better, but I still love Teen Gohan and I wont take him out of my team.
I feel that this is the main problem with him.
The problem with that team is damage. Those 3 characters main attribute is that they can open up their opponents easily, but they have low solo and meterless damage. You could make it work, but you need to learn how to setup your opponent, extend combos and use a ton of meter.
And if you land a hit, his j.2S combos often require strict timing that most characters don't to get good damage. Still love him though
Man that Chiaotzu super landing as a finishing move is my favorite thing in the world.
My first ever fight stick arrived this morning.
I played with it for about an hour. Obviously will take a lot of work to get used to it, but I have been really enjoying using it. First game I couldn't even land a single Kamehameha, but after messing around in practice mode for half an hour I was soon able to use most attacks fairly regularly. R1 being to the left of L1 will take some getting used to.
I just couldn't get used to and didn't like using the d-pad after basically ignoring it since the PS1 and found using the left stick quite inaccurate at times for things like movement and blocking. I have no doubt that the fightstick will take me many weeks to learn, but hopefully by the end of it I will find it a much more natural way to play than forcing myself to try to use the d-pad.
I played with it for about an hour. Obviously will take a lot of work to get used to it, but I have been really enjoying using it. First game I couldn't even land a single Kamehameha, but after messing around in practice mode for half an hour I was soon able to use most attacks fairly regularly. R1 being to the left of L1 will take some getting used to.
I just couldn't get used to and didn't like using the d-pad after basically ignoring it since the PS1 and found using the left stick quite inaccurate at times for things like movement and blocking. I have no doubt that the fightstick will take me many weeks to learn, but hopefully by the end of it I will find it a much more natural way to play than forcing myself to try to use the d-pad.
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Came from a tournament yesterday, GGCIce got 3rd and he was one of the few 18 players there. He was saying he's starting to see why people are saying she isn't that good...because she has no real pressure. Plenty of mixups, but no real pressure, not midscreen anyway.
I'm starting to see it too, alot of high players are super aggressive with their rushdown and once they touch you, you're in the shit. Alot of the top picks now are able to get you locked down from pretty much anywhere and convert into something nasty. 18's neutral pretty much entirely revolves around 17.
I feel like 18 is pretty much unblockable in the corner, but you have to get them there first, which seems to be the issue.
I'm currently thinking of just dropping Beerus, at least until I develop a better strategy to a) get him into the corner with hard knockdown, and b) actually make his corner pressure something that results in oppressive kills, because at the moment i'm noticing that people are literally getting out of it by mistake if they don't respect it...which is a terrible flaw to corner pressure....waiting for someone to get some nasty tech with him but it's looking rough :(
Your music mods are absolutely excellent, cheers on that. Oh, and sick comeback. :P
yeah, not problem. at least with music/sound mods. Not sure about anything else.
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