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Dragon Ball FighterZ |OT| Heaven or HFIL
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Frieza getting buffed definitely has my attention. He was on my original team at launch and I had to drop him after I got out of the scrub tiers in ranked.
Vegeta's assist getting tweaked is probably going to hurt a lot of characters including 16
Vegeta's assist getting tweaked is probably going to hurt a lot of characters including 16
Do we have any idea when the new modes (Z League, Raid Battle) will show up?
Stay away from my team!!!!1!!
As a fellow 16 player I fear that they're going to go too far with 16 nerfs as well even though I don't think he actually needs too much in regards to changes.
Adult Gohan however needs to be sat down and told to chill the fuck out.
Yeah same I might actually pick him up again now. Loved Freeza at launch.
As a Vegeta main I'm cool with the nerf if it isn't too bad. I get why frustrated people would want him nerfed into the ground but I think it'd really suck if such a fan favorite character got fucked in a patch. I feel like his assist should still be the best (since someone will always inevitably be the best) but just not quite as overbearingly so.
Yeah I don't see 16 unless I duel my girl Katie (wink)
I wonder if its the worst in the game since it can heal the enemy too
I mean Cryptosporiduim lol
I wonder if its the worst in the game since it can heal the enemy too
Weird. I'm floating around 620k and I never see him. Maybe I'm just getting lucky?
I haven't played very frequently recently. Next time I do, I'll keep track of the character variety.
All the 16 mains are all probably SS Gods. FSLink probably sees them all the time. Ain't you a God to Flux? This would explain everything
(I forget which rank is the top one- is it Living Legend? I need to look it up)
(I forget which rank is the top one- is it Living Legend? I need to look it up)
I haven't played very frequently lately either (might change that tonight) and I'll do the same.
Vegetas are all over the place online. I've honestly gotten to the point where I constantly try to snap in Vegetas in order to kill them off quickly and completely fuck up the opponents synergy.
I have Vegeta on my team too lol
We all are rolling with Vegeta. They cant help but see it in their stats
(maybe not Flux; but most of us no doubt got Vegeta anchor)
(maybe not Flux; but most of us no doubt got Vegeta anchor)
Well, Kid Buu is one of the best characters in the game, with a fantastic assist, ridiculous pressure, a great DHC, great range, a small size (which lets him get under some other characters' pressure), etc.
800k is Super Saiyan God, yes.
At SSG too, and though 16 is less common than he used to be, he's still in every third or fourth match and it's still the most miserable shit in the world when you find one. Vegeta is far and away the most common character in my experience, he's genuinely on 80% of teams. I get Cell a lot more often than I used to, though Gohan is a regular occurrence as well. 16 is probably most likely to appear after them. I wonder what all of these characters have in common.
They're definitely getting rid of the infinite, and may do something about some of her move steal options that are crazy such as the loops (which I don't agree with, but it's the most likely thing on her to change), but I highly doubt her core gameplay will be affected too much. I think she's one of the most well balanced characters in the game overall, with very clear strengths as well as drawbacks. Her, Trunks, and probably Tien are all characters that other's balance should be based around imo.
They're definitely getting rid of the infinite, and may do something about some of her move steal options that are crazy such as the loops (which I don't agree with, but it's the most likely thing on her to change), but I highly doubt her core gameplay will be affected too much. I think she's one of the most well balanced characters in the game overall, with very clear strengths as well as drawbacks. Her, Trunks, and probably Tien are all characters that other's balance should be based around imo.
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Im not an expert but i do often hear ppl complaining about her dmg
How the fuck is Cell not getting nerfed? His damage is stupid. Hopefully his damage gets indirectly nerfed with bug fixes. I'm excited for Frieza and Piccolo buffs! I stuck with my team and it looks like it might pay off.
Cell's not out of the woods yet. He could be part of that "etc" plus he could get affected by some across the board changes they make
I hope they don't. Yes, she has good damage, but mostly with assists. She might get a bit more in the corner by herself than other characters due to being able to combo j.H into j.2H but that's not a lot more. Nerfing her damage while still not giving her any means to get a sliding knockdown is too much imo. I think the only thing they should do to her in terms of character balance is to take out her infinite, although I would definitely welcome slight buffs like making her 5L a 6f normal instead of 7f or something else. That is, if they intend to not give her a sliding knockdown.
This is ASW though so I don't know, let's roll the dice and see what we get I guess.
The amount of times I've accidentally healed the enemy is embarrassing.
I mean, does he? He's good but there's nothing about him that really screams "nerf this" besides maybe his 2H.
I think it's just 2H. I just really don't like it lol. I kinda hope that's all they do with him though because he's a really solid character.
Yeah I honestly don't have a problem with Black anymore. He was annoying the first month (even though I played him) but he definitely got figured out and easier to deal with as time goes on. He's still viable thanks to his neutral but it's difficult to open people up with him now with his only low being 2M. If they nerf his 2H I won't be bothered by it but it's not something that's necessarily needed.
You know this really doesn't get mentioned enough but I genuinely think that might be the worst hitbox in the entire game to me. Like, they just straight up give him a "win" button for footsies and scrambles. It's just a big box in front of his hurtbox lol. Every time I see it, it drives me insane.
Fuck this thing.
You know this really doesn't get mentioned enough but I genuinely think that might be the worst hitbox in the entire game to me. Like, they just straight up give him a "win" button for footsies and scrambles. It's just a big box in front of his hurtbox lol. Every time I see it, it drives me insane.
Fuck this thing.
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I would definitely tweak the hurtbox of his 5LL because that thing is ridiculous.
On that topic, one of the many things they should do about A.Gohan is to deal with his 2L because that thing is also ridiculous.
2L or 5L?
Oh, I see from the above image. I don't think I knew about its hitbox.
Both, really.
His 5L is the only standing low in the game that is 6f and is actually quite hard to see when paired with an assist. Add the fast fall and that's a lot going on there.
And his 2L, the thing that The Yo Tornado just posted, has that really silly hitbox, is 8f and scales like an M. That's bullshit imo. Make it 7f, give it the scaling of a proper 2L and that's that. He's the only character with a non-low 2L that doesn't even care about it not actually being low because it has that ridiculous hitbox and his real L low is stronger than any low 2L.
Again, add his fast fall and all of it is even more fucked up imo
This is why I think reducing 16's armor is more than enough of a nerf for him. You take that away and quite honestly 16 suddenly has a much harder time getting in than someone like Bardock or Gohan
I honestly don't think Android 16 is even that "broken" at least in comparison to Bardock, A.Gohan, and Kid Buu, which is why I think if you tweak his armor properties 16 comes back down to Earth (especially with a Vegeta assist nerf) because then his ability to get in on people becomes noticeably tougher. He's an overall good character but I don't think he's nearly as solid as the other characters I mentioned.
Regarding Android 16, I'm gonna quote something I said a couple of weeks ago:
Something about all of this has to go, I think. Personally, I would take away his hard knockdown and maybe tweak some of his frames. He can keep the armor as long as he doesn't get to put you almost for free in a situation where possibly the fate of your character comes down to pure guessing.
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