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Dragon Ball FighterZ |OT2| Let's Rock The Dragon
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Janemba is awesome, but his level 3 seems to be missing something.
I hope they give Gogeta his Stardust Breaker.
Can't wait to see DBS Broly, as I main OG Broly on my team. I am really curious about how they change him. Will he play similar to OG? or make him a hybrid of OG Broly and the standard Saiyan cast? Will he have ridiculous armor too? However it is, I am sure he's going to look and animate incredibly since he's the final character. I really doubt they do a season 3, but I can see them adding another 2 characters to this season to round it out. I just hope that DBF2 doesn't remove anyone from this roster just to add them as DLC. I can totally see them doing something like replacing Nappa for Toppo or selling OG Broly as DLC again while DBS Broly is on the base roster.
I hope they give Gogeta his Stardust Breaker.
Can't wait to see DBS Broly, as I main OG Broly on my team. I am really curious about how they change him. Will he play similar to OG? or make him a hybrid of OG Broly and the standard Saiyan cast? Will he have ridiculous armor too? However it is, I am sure he's going to look and animate incredibly since he's the final character. I really doubt they do a season 3, but I can see them adding another 2 characters to this season to round it out. I just hope that DBF2 doesn't remove anyone from this roster just to add them as DLC. I can totally see them doing something like replacing Nappa for Toppo or selling OG Broly as DLC again while DBS Broly is on the base roster.
Depends on who has more say in what happens to the game. If it's ArcSys, then everybody would stay and they would just continue to sell new DLC. They don't have a history of removing characters from previous iterations unless the game gets an entire reboot. If it's Namco... they're the wild card here since DBFZ might be the first real fighter they've outsourced?
Doesn't ArcSys have a history of removing characters between numbered versions? While Guilty Gear isnt regularly numbered, if we look at X to XX to Xrd, characters like Baiken/Anji/Bridget/Dizzy/Testament/Cliff were not brought into Xrd.
Like I said, unless the game gets an entire reboot. The difference between Xrd and the formerly mentioned is night and day. Now if they did it with Sign to Revelator, there would be some shit to answer for.
Basic ki blasts? Lately they've been doing a better job of making each character unique. I want to see what's going to happen here.
https://www.twitch.tv/ggosama Korea vs Japan Team tournament. Shame commentary is only in Korean. There's B and Souji in Japan side.
Can't wait for Gogeta and S. Broly.
Just watched the film again with the nephews this summer and got pumped imagining how battles will look and play out.
If they really nail Broly I can see him becoming my favourite member of the cast; learning every nuance, collecting every colour, etc.
Just watched the film again with the nephews this summer and got pumped imagining how battles will look and play out.
If they really nail Broly I can see him becoming my favourite member of the cast; learning every nuance, collecting every colour, etc.
I can't wait to see the shit talk between Gogeta and Vegito when they fight each other xD
Gogeta is going to be lit
This is all based on the scans I saw so I know what I'm talking bout y'all
This is all based on the scans I saw so I know what I'm talking bout y'all
I'm beyond ecstatic to get the 90's clothes Piccolo worn from the Driving Test episode as my lobby avatar.
World Tour Preview
Celtic Throwdown 2019:
This tournament is stacked!
-There's a chance for a EVO finals rematch, could GO1 relax after clinching a place on the World Finals?
-The European contingent should do a good job defending home-turf, Shanks and Wawa have the most points but there's a lot of talent there.
-Japan is showing up in force: Tachikawa missed EVO and must be hungry for competition, BBNB who after the Finals last year has been disappointing this season, Kaz who can't get past 7th place.
-Besides SonicFox, America is bringing the usual suspects like HGG, Dekillsage, ApolagyMan, Nakkiel and LordKnight. There's limited points and some of these players are lacking.
Should be a great tournament. Since this is post-EVO I expect some surprises. GO1 can just chill until January(hope he does, he has won enough. There's a bunch of EU players with unusual teams which might surprise. It's a good opportunity to see who's hungry.
Here's the pools: https://smash.gg/tournament/celtic-throwdown-2019/events/dragon-ball-fighterz/brackets
CouchWarriors:
So..., I know Jiyuna and Rynge are commentating. Per a tweet from Jiyuna it seems Fenritti is going. No idea who else can't find information online.
Hope it's not Fenritti vs Australia... Maybe some other Japanese players show up, plus other regional competitors like Seo or Korean Wrestling Man. That would make for an interesting tournament.
My advice don't miss Celtic Throwdown, a lot of good Dragon Ball to see there. Both tournament start 31st of August. I'll try to remember to post schedules/twitch links here.
Is there any team in this game that isn't made better by replacing your assist/support character with GT Goku? I feel like this dude just does everything.
Certain characters synergise extremely well with others allowing crazy stuff for example:
That said, Kid Goku overall strengths are probably still better... Why did they release this clear Season 1 like character, at least balance him to the current patch of the game.
I picked the game up recently. This is my first fighting game and I'm definitely looking for good dbfz tutorial content. This is exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks.
Also for anyone interested, DRAGON BALL FighterZ World Tour: Tenkaichi Event - Celtic Throwdown 2019 is going on right now over on Twitch.
Wawa looking good!
if he can beat Go1, might bring some real excitement to this game outside of all this Kid Buu/Bardock/Gtku meh.
if he can beat Go1, might bring some real excitement to this game outside of all this Kid Buu/Bardock/Gtku meh.
Yeah it honestly feels like you're playing this game wrong if you're not running GT Goku. He provides so much as an assist and is also an amazing point character - no character in Marvel ever provided this much support while being such problem on point.
Dr. Doom is probably the closest but he had bad matchups. There really a character that stands out that counters GT Goku's neutral.
Pennang Esports Festival will start in like 10 hours. There's a decent Asian contingent, GO1, Kaz, BNBBN, Tachikawa, Seo a few more. Should make for a good top 8. Some names desperately need points.
Some short thoughts regarding last week events: CouchWarriors was free points for 3 players..., a side effect of announcing events so late. We shall see how this affects the final standings, Maddo and Seo are good players but are they top 16 players in the World? Pennang should be a good place to evaluate their skill in a more competitive field.
Celtic Throwdown was a great tournament, incredibly stacked. Wawa confirming his potential, Europe spicing it up, Dekilsage confirming his place as nº2 in the USA. I'm pretty happy one of the Sagas is in Europe by far the most interesting region this Season.
Some short thoughts regarding last week events: CouchWarriors was free points for 3 players..., a side effect of announcing events so late. We shall see how this affects the final standings, Maddo and Seo are good players but are they top 16 players in the World? Pennang should be a good place to evaluate their skill in a more competitive field.
Celtic Throwdown was a great tournament, incredibly stacked. Wawa confirming his potential, Europe spicing it up, Dekilsage confirming his place as nº2 in the USA. I'm pretty happy one of the Sagas is in Europe by far the most interesting region this Season.
Wawa is actually super fun to watch, I thought he was all hype when everyone was talking about him since I thought Base Goku was boring.
He might challenge GO1 and SonicFox in the near future, the talent is there.
Here you go: https://www.twitch.tv/dragonballfighterz
Pool C starting now.
His Base Goku is jaw dropping. Such a good control and so much damage out of him, that others are putting him A Tier now. lol.
Although his Adult Gohan may be just as impressive.
Three Tenkaichi Events and a couple of others.
Kid Goku has officially turned into a plague. The character only has a few months and it's already the 4th most utilized in top 8's! Kid Boo is seeing another mini-resurgence and has stolen Yamcha's podium spot.
There's enough sample to determine some things out. First 6 characters are the clear top tiers. In a second group we have beam assist, classic Vegeta and "recently" buffed Teen Gohan. After it's a bunch of solid characters until Broly, most of these are in the "why don't you just play top tier, instead of working harder"?
Meta seems pretty settled, Bardock/SSJ Goku shell now divides it's spotlight with Kid Goku and Kid Boo. Occasionally there's the Adult Gohan and Yamcha.
World Tour Report:
GO1 won the Malaysia Event, nothing new. But Kazunoko made him sweat, losing 3-2 on both sets. The question is if this was a fluke or if Kaz is returning to old form. We need more people to challenge GO1.
Besides the two big favorites, Matoi got 3rd and some important points. This was an opportunity for Asian players to gather points.
Next week is NA's turn, I believe no Japanese player nor SonicFox are attending ThunderStruck. That makes it the most unpredictable stop of the World Tour so far.
Here's the standings: https://dbfzworldtour.com/standings/
Still too many points on offer to commentate on who's out or in, besides the obvious.
Season 1 Leaderboard
Season 2 (Patch #1)
Season 2(Patch #2)
SSJ Goku - 98
Bardock - 95
Kid Boo - 57
Kid Goku - 56
Yamcha - 55
Adult Gohan - 50
SSJ Vegeta - 32
Teen Gohan - 30
Goku Black - 29
Vegetto - 24
Tenshinhan - 22
Gotenks - 22
Trunks - 20
Piccolo - 20
SSB Goku - 19
#16 - 18
Hit - 18
Cell - 17
#18 - 17
#21 - 16
Broly - 15
Zamasu - 12
Base Goku - 9
Freeza - 8
Cooler - 7
Base Vegeta - 6
Ginyu - 5
Jiren - 4
Nappa - 3
Videl - 3
Beerus - 3
#17 - 2
SSB Vegeta - 2
Kuririn - 1
Janemba - 1
No appearances: Mr.Boo.
UMAD 2019
Viennality 2019
The Pinnacle
CEO 2019(Tenkaichi Event)
SonicBoom VI
Toryuken 8
Defend the North 2019
VSFighting 2019(Tenkaichi Event)
EVO 2019(Saga Event)
DashFest 2019
CouchWarriors(Tenkaichi Event)
Celtic Throwdown 2019(Tenkaichi Event)
SummerJam 13
Penang Esports Festival(Tenkaichi Event)
Kid Goku has officially turned into a plague. The character only has a few months and it's already the 4th most utilized in top 8's! Kid Boo is seeing another mini-resurgence and has stolen Yamcha's podium spot.
There's enough sample to determine some things out. First 6 characters are the clear top tiers. In a second group we have beam assist, classic Vegeta and "recently" buffed Teen Gohan. After it's a bunch of solid characters until Broly, most of these are in the "why don't you just play top tier, instead of working harder"?
Meta seems pretty settled, Bardock/SSJ Goku shell now divides it's spotlight with Kid Goku and Kid Boo. Occasionally there's the Adult Gohan and Yamcha.
World Tour Report:
GO1 won the Malaysia Event, nothing new. But Kazunoko made him sweat, losing 3-2 on both sets. The question is if this was a fluke or if Kaz is returning to old form. We need more people to challenge GO1.
Besides the two big favorites, Matoi got 3rd and some important points. This was an opportunity for Asian players to gather points.
Next week is NA's turn, I believe no Japanese player nor SonicFox are attending ThunderStruck. That makes it the most unpredictable stop of the World Tour so far.
Here's the standings: https://dbfzworldtour.com/standings/
Still too many points on offer to commentate on who's out or in, besides the obvious.
Season 1 Leaderboard
1st - SSJ Vegeta - 137 selections
2nd - Bardock - 127 selections
3rd - Cell - 121 selections
4th - Kid Boo - 107 selections
5th - #16 - 106 selections
6th - Adult Gohan - 97
7th - SSJ Goku - 85
8th - Gotenks - 67
9th - Goku Black - 46
10th - Trunks - 40
10th - Yamcha - 40
12th - Tenshinhan - 36
13th - Piccolo - 29
13th - #18 - 29
13th - Hit - 29
16th - #21 - 26
17th - Base Vegeta - 22
17th - Ginyu - 22
19th - Teen Gohan - 21
20th - Zamasu - 17
21st - Vegetto - 14
22nd - Broly - 11
23rd - Freeza - 10
23rd - Cooler - 10
25th - Mr.Boo - 9
26th - Base Goku - 8
27th - SSB Goku - 7
28th - SSB Vegeta - 6
28th - Nappa - 6
30th - Beerus - 3
30th - #17 - 3
32nd - Kuririn - 0
2nd - Bardock - 127 selections
3rd - Cell - 121 selections
4th - Kid Boo - 107 selections
5th - #16 - 106 selections
6th - Adult Gohan - 97
7th - SSJ Goku - 85
8th - Gotenks - 67
9th - Goku Black - 46
10th - Trunks - 40
10th - Yamcha - 40
12th - Tenshinhan - 36
13th - Piccolo - 29
13th - #18 - 29
13th - Hit - 29
16th - #21 - 26
17th - Base Vegeta - 22
17th - Ginyu - 22
19th - Teen Gohan - 21
20th - Zamasu - 17
21st - Vegetto - 14
22nd - Broly - 11
23rd - Freeza - 10
23rd - Cooler - 10
25th - Mr.Boo - 9
26th - Base Goku - 8
27th - SSB Goku - 7
28th - SSB Vegeta - 6
28th - Nappa - 6
30th - Beerus - 3
30th - #17 - 3
32nd - Kuririn - 0
Season 2 (Patch #1)
Bardock - 22
Kid Boo - 17
SSJ Goku - 17
SSJ Vegeta - 14
#16 - 12
Yamcha - 12
Gotenks - 10
Vegetto - 9
Videl - 7
Adult Gohan - 6
Piccolo - 6
Hit - 6
#18 - 5
Cell - 5
Trunks - 4
Tenshinhan - 4
Mr. Boo - 3
Teen Gohan - 3
Ginyu - 3
Freeza - 3
Jiren - 2
Base Vegeta - 2
#21 - 2
Broly - 1
Nappa - 1
Cooler - 1
Zamasu - 1
Kuririn - 1
Beerus - 1
SSB Vegeta - 1
No appearance: #17, Base Goku, Goku Black and SSB Goku.
Kid Boo - 17
SSJ Goku - 17
SSJ Vegeta - 14
#16 - 12
Yamcha - 12
Gotenks - 10
Vegetto - 9
Videl - 7
Adult Gohan - 6
Piccolo - 6
Hit - 6
#18 - 5
Cell - 5
Trunks - 4
Tenshinhan - 4
Mr. Boo - 3
Teen Gohan - 3
Ginyu - 3
Freeza - 3
Jiren - 2
Base Vegeta - 2
#21 - 2
Broly - 1
Nappa - 1
Cooler - 1
Zamasu - 1
Kuririn - 1
Beerus - 1
SSB Vegeta - 1
No appearance: #17, Base Goku, Goku Black and SSB Goku.
Season 2(Patch #2)
SSJ Goku - 98
Bardock - 95
Kid Boo - 57
Kid Goku - 56
Yamcha - 55
Adult Gohan - 50
SSJ Vegeta - 32
Teen Gohan - 30
Goku Black - 29
Vegetto - 24
Tenshinhan - 22
Gotenks - 22
Trunks - 20
Piccolo - 20
SSB Goku - 19
#16 - 18
Hit - 18
Cell - 17
#18 - 17
#21 - 16
Broly - 15
Zamasu - 12
Base Goku - 9
Freeza - 8
Cooler - 7
Base Vegeta - 6
Ginyu - 5
Jiren - 4
Nappa - 3
Videl - 3
Beerus - 3
#17 - 2
SSB Vegeta - 2
Kuririn - 1
Janemba - 1
No appearances: Mr.Boo.
UMAD 2019
Adult Gohan - 3
Bardock - 2
SSJ Goku - 2
Trunks - 1
Yamcha - 1
Kid Boo - 1
Beerus - 1
Tenshinhan - 1
Bardock - 2
SSJ Goku - 2
Trunks - 1
Yamcha - 1
Kid Boo - 1
Beerus - 1
Tenshinhan - 1
SSJ Goku - 4
Adult Gohan - 2
#16 - 2
Kid Goku - 1
Bardock - 1
Base Vegeta - 1
Vegetto - 1
Adult Gohan - 2
#16 - 2
Kid Goku - 1
Bardock - 1
Base Vegeta - 1
Vegetto - 1
Kid Boo - 2
Tenshinhan - 2
Gotenks - 2
Teen Gohan - 1
Yamcha - 1
Broly - 1
SSB Goku - 1
Bardock - 1
SSJ Vegeta - 1
SSJ Goku - 1
Kid Goku - 1
Tenshinhan - 2
Gotenks - 2
Teen Gohan - 1
Yamcha - 1
Broly - 1
SSB Goku - 1
Bardock - 1
SSJ Vegeta - 1
SSJ Goku - 1
Kid Goku - 1
SSJ Goku - 4
Kid Goku - 3
Bardock - 3
Adult Gohan - 2
Kid Boo - 2
Teen Gohan - 1
Broly - 1
#18 - 1
Zamasu - 1
Cooler - 1
Cell - 1
SSJ Vegeta - 1
Yamcha - 1
#21 - 1
Goku Black - 1
Kid Goku - 3
Bardock - 3
Adult Gohan - 2
Kid Boo - 2
Teen Gohan - 1
Broly - 1
#18 - 1
Zamasu - 1
Cooler - 1
Cell - 1
SSJ Vegeta - 1
Yamcha - 1
#21 - 1
Goku Black - 1
SSJ Goku - 4
Kid Boo - 2
Hit - 2
Kid Goku - 2
Adult Gohan - 2
#18 - 2
Bardock - 2
Trunks - 2
SSB Goku - 2
Goku Black - 2
#16 - 1
Zamasu - 1
Yamcha - 1
Cooler - 1
#21 - 1
Teen Gohan - 1
Kid Boo - 2
Hit - 2
Kid Goku - 2
Adult Gohan - 2
#18 - 2
Bardock - 2
Trunks - 2
SSB Goku - 2
Goku Black - 2
#16 - 1
Zamasu - 1
Yamcha - 1
Cooler - 1
#21 - 1
Teen Gohan - 1
Bardock - 3
Hit - 3
SSJ Goku - 3
Goku Black - 2
Kid Goku - 2
Freeza - 1
#18 - 1
SSJ Vegeta - 1
Yamcha - 1
Teen Gohan - 1
Cell - 1
Trunks - 1
Kid Boo - 1
Piccolo - 1
Vegetto - 1
Gotenks - 1
Adult Gohan - 1
Hit - 3
SSJ Goku - 3
Goku Black - 2
Kid Goku - 2
Freeza - 1
#18 - 1
SSJ Vegeta - 1
Yamcha - 1
Teen Gohan - 1
Cell - 1
Trunks - 1
Kid Boo - 1
Piccolo - 1
Vegetto - 1
Gotenks - 1
Adult Gohan - 1
Bardock - 5
Kid Goku - 4
Kid Boo - 3
Yamcha - 2
Teen Gohan - 2
Hit - 1
Broly - 1
SSJ Goku - 1
Trunks - 1
Tenshinhan - 1
Base Goku - 1
Jiren - 1
Goku Black - 1
Kid Goku - 4
Kid Boo - 3
Yamcha - 2
Teen Gohan - 2
Hit - 1
Broly - 1
SSJ Goku - 1
Trunks - 1
Tenshinhan - 1
Base Goku - 1
Jiren - 1
Goku Black - 1
Kid Goku - 4
SSJ Goku - 3
Bardock - 3
Adult Gohan - 3
Kid Boo - 2
Yamcha - 2
SSJ Vegeta - 2
Base Goku - 1
#18 - 1
Cell - 1
Piccolo - 1
Goku Black - 1
Teen Gohan - 1
SSJ Goku - 3
Bardock - 3
Adult Gohan - 3
Kid Boo - 2
Yamcha - 2
SSJ Vegeta - 2
Base Goku - 1
#18 - 1
Cell - 1
Piccolo - 1
Goku Black - 1
Teen Gohan - 1
Bardock - 3
Kid Goku - 3
Kid Boo - 3
Adult Gohan - 3
Yamcha - 3
SSJ Goku - 2
Teen Gohan - 2
#17 - 1
#18 - 1
Tenshinhan - 1
Cell - 1
SSJ Vegeta - 1
Kid Goku - 3
Kid Boo - 3
Adult Gohan - 3
Yamcha - 3
SSJ Goku - 2
Teen Gohan - 2
#17 - 1
#18 - 1
Tenshinhan - 1
Cell - 1
SSJ Vegeta - 1
Bardock - 3
Kid Goku - 3
SSJ Goku - 2
Hit - 2
Piccolo - 2
SSJ Vegeta - 2
Vegetto - 1
Gotenks - 1
SSB Goku - 1
Tenshinhan - 1
Goku Black - 1
Kid Boo - 1
Adult Gohan - 1
Yamcha - 1
Freeza - 1
#18 - 1
Kid Goku - 3
SSJ Goku - 2
Hit - 2
Piccolo - 2
SSJ Vegeta - 2
Vegetto - 1
Gotenks - 1
SSB Goku - 1
Tenshinhan - 1
Goku Black - 1
Kid Boo - 1
Adult Gohan - 1
Yamcha - 1
Freeza - 1
#18 - 1
Kid Goku - 5
Teen Gohan - 4
Kid Boo - 3
SSJ Vegeta - 3
Bardock - 2
SSJ Goku - 2
Cell - 1
Videl - 1
Yamcha - 1
Base Goku - 1
Vegetto - 1
Goku Black - 1
Freeza - 1
Teen Gohan - 4
Kid Boo - 3
SSJ Vegeta - 3
Bardock - 2
SSJ Goku - 2
Cell - 1
Videl - 1
Yamcha - 1
Base Goku - 1
Vegetto - 1
Goku Black - 1
Freeza - 1
Kid Goku - 5
SSJ Goku - 5
Kid Boo - 3
Bardock - 2
Adult Gohan - 2
Yamcha - 2
Base Goku - 1
#18 - 1
Cooler - 1
Broly - 1
Teen Gohan - 1
Vegetto - 1
Cell - 1
SSJ Goku - 5
Kid Boo - 3
Bardock - 2
Adult Gohan - 2
Yamcha - 2
Base Goku - 1
#18 - 1
Cooler - 1
Broly - 1
Teen Gohan - 1
Vegetto - 1
Cell - 1
Kid Goku - 3
SSJ Goku - 2
Bardock - 2
Goku Black - 2
Adult Gohan - 1
Yamcha - 1
Broly - 1
Cooler - 1
Gotenks - 1
Nappa - 1
SSJ Vegeta - 1
Vegetto - 1
Jiren - 1
Beerus - 1
SSB Goku - 1
Cell - 1
Kid Boo - 1
#21 - 1
#18 - 1
Trunks - 1
SSJ Goku - 2
Bardock - 2
Goku Black - 2
Adult Gohan - 1
Yamcha - 1
Broly - 1
Cooler - 1
Gotenks - 1
Nappa - 1
SSJ Vegeta - 1
Vegetto - 1
Jiren - 1
Beerus - 1
SSB Goku - 1
Cell - 1
Kid Boo - 1
#21 - 1
#18 - 1
Trunks - 1
Kid Goku - 5
Kid Boo - 4
Bardock - 3
SSJ Goku - 2
Yamcha - 2
Teen Gohan - 2
Janemba - 1
Freeza - 1
#21 - 1
Vegetto - 1
SSB Vegeta - 1
SSJ Vegeta - 1
#18 - 1
Adult Gohan - 1
Kid Boo - 4
Bardock - 3
SSJ Goku - 2
Yamcha - 2
Teen Gohan - 2
Janemba - 1
Freeza - 1
#21 - 1
Vegetto - 1
SSB Vegeta - 1
SSJ Vegeta - 1
#18 - 1
Adult Gohan - 1
Thunderstruck top 16 till finish going on. Hook just lost to Subatomic Sabers.
https://www.twitch.tv/dragonballfighterz
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Doesn't Gogeta have like 5 supers? Including a lvl 3 into a lvl 5, and a lvl 1 into a lvl 2? jesus.
Also, he's has Vegito like color as a color alt, and I'm loving that.
Also, he's has Vegito like color as a color alt, and I'm loving that.
I'm guessing little since the character is advertised as Gogeta (SSGSS). This game really did drop the ball by not having alt skins
Gogeta going to have a good assist? Been in sort of hibernation waiting on Gogetta and New Broly to drop.
Yeah that's too bad.
It's similar to Base Goku assist, great wall bounce, good block stun. He actually synergizes very well with Baseku, so Wawa has already picked him up and is looking beastly.
Spoiler Alert if you didn't watch the stream yet
Wawa beat Sonic Fox!! Really great confidence booster, especially defending his home term. He's like gohan with the Hidden potential and he's getting stronger every time he plays.
We even got some High level Gogeta play, and got to see first hand another great character with synergy for Baseku.
Wawa's beaten Kazunoko, Tachikawa, and Fenretti, can he take down Go1 is going to be the question
Wawa beat Sonic Fox!! Really great confidence booster, especially defending his home term. He's like gohan with the Hidden potential and he's getting stronger every time he plays.
We even got some High level Gogeta play, and got to see first hand another great character with synergy for Baseku.
Wawa's beaten Kazunoko, Tachikawa, and Fenretti, can he take down Go1 is going to be the question