Yeah that's why I said normal blue form. With Kaioken, it's a bit unclear who is stronger.
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Dragon Ball Super: Broly SPOILER THREAD [Unmarked Spoilers]
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Yeah that's why I said normal blue form. With Kaioken, it's a bit unclear who is stronger.
UI was needed to beat Kefla and UI should be stronger than fusions as per Heroes (non canon I know I know) so at least for now Fusions are still broken and Kefla edges Broly
Eh I don't really see the logic here. We don't know that UI was needed to beat Kefla and she also would've been curbstomped by Gogeta.
Yeah goku and vegeta are now evenly matched after the tournament of power. Goku UI obviously will trump vegeta but he doesn't actually know how to do that. I'm sure when he does vegeta will power up shortly after
First anime movie outside of Ghibli I've watched in a movie theatre. Spent money on IMAX expecting a great movie going experience and although full, my theater was super quiet. Outside of a couple of giggles when Bulma and Frieza said their wishes, super quiet elsewhere. Quite disappointing.
Some scenes were epic but quite inconsistent quality. Will rewatch when it comes out streaming or Blu-ray just for the Broly fights.
Some scenes were epic but quite inconsistent quality. Will rewatch when it comes out streaming or Blu-ray just for the Broly fights.
Not sure about the Kefla thing. Also, some people thinking Broly is stronger than Jiren lol GTFO he went toe to toe against MUI Goku.
Definitely not. I would say it goes MUI Goku > Jiren > UI Goku > SSB Gogeta / Vegito > Broly > SSB2 Vegeta > SSB Goku Kaioken > SSB Goku / Vegeta
We didn't see either SSB2 Vegeta or SSB Goku Kaioken, so maybe they trump Broly.
I also say SSB2 Vegeta over SSB Goku Kaioken as SSB2 Vegeta was able to handle Destruct power with the same technique Jiren showed funnelling God Ki into hands (red hands with Jiren, blue hands with SSB2 Vegeta)
Look at this way
Base Broly stomped SSG Goku
Base Kefla stomped SSG Goku
SS Broly Stomped Blue Goku
SS Kefla Stomped Blue Goku
Full Power SS Broly was Stomped by Gogeta
SS2 Kefla was Stomped by UI Goku
UI>Fusion so SS2 Kefla >FPSS Broly
Or at least that's how I see it
I think Gogeta/Vegito is stronger than UI Goku, at least offensively.
There was the whole thing where Whis was saying UI Goku could only dodge efficiently.
But Broly is definitely stronger than Kefla. I think Goku and Vegeta together would have beaten Kefla while Broly was chasing those two around.
There was the whole thing where Whis was saying UI Goku could only dodge efficiently.
But Broly is definitely stronger than Kefla. I think Goku and Vegeta together would have beaten Kefla while Broly was chasing those two around.
You can't equate it, as UI is a totally different beast. UI in it's first form just meant he had ultra instinct defence. He couldn't hit. So you can't equate.
Also Goku was severely stamina drained for the Kefla fight. A fresh SSB Goku > beat up SSB Goku.
That was for UI Omen
Mastered perfectly UI attacks and defends simultaneously
Well depends how you look at it, so I may change my list to SSB Vegito / Gogeta > UI Goku due to the lack of offence issue.
That's why we've clarified MUI and UI.
The audience in my showing was super into it. Clapping when Vegeta went SSG and when Gogeta occurs. Laughing a lot.
Same. Some hate it, but for this type of film, it just adds to the emotion imo
I don't think anyone can say whether UI Omen is stronger than Gogeta or vice versa. It'll probably come down to whether Omen turns off or Gogeta defuses first. Gogeta having more raw power but being unable to land a clean hit on Omen. No don't @ me about some Heroes bullshit.
I don't know how long Gogeta can last, shouldn't be that much shorter than SSB Vegito. It's impossible to tell how much time has passed unless they tell you so it's unknown how long Vegito truly lasted compared to Omen.
I don't know how long Gogeta can last, shouldn't be that much shorter than SSB Vegito. It's impossible to tell how much time has passed unless they tell you so it's unknown how long Vegito truly lasted compared to Omen.
That's the usual case if they don't burn through their energy. Vegito Blue didn't last the full hour, we don't know how long he actually lasted.
it's the official term
am, when i watched super it was called "doctrina egoista" that it is a direct translation
i really dont like ultra instinct
What does that mean?
Ultra instinct sounds cool to me.
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crunchy roll is now shitty fansubs
gotcha
is the literal translation of migate no gokui that means "selfish doctrine"
Crunchyroll refers to it as Ultra Instinct...what are you even saying??
English subs were done with TOEI themselves
sorry pal, the first time they aired the episodes they said "doctrina egosita" if they re-subbed them afterwards, thats another thing.
naah, i know they want to be clever about moving from Super to Ultra, like if they were Yugioh trading cards or something, but ultra instinct sounds lame.
I think it's perfectly normal to compare Broly to Jiren. Jiren would still outclass Broly as he is now. He just doesn't have the skill yet. He's just rage and raw power. However, after some time training I can see Broly easily surpassing Jiren. Without a doubt. Dude JUST went SS. Lol
Personally I feel it's:
MUI Goku > SSB Gogeta / Vegito > Jiren > Broly > UI Goku > SSB2 Vegeta > SSB Goku Kaioken > SSB Goku / Vegeta
Crunchyroll Spanish subs were not done under TOEI. Only simulcast is
Ultra Instinct sounds much better and fits the series and character much better.
Lol @ "doctrine" like Goku is some sort of political scholar
Lol @ "doctrine" like Goku is some sort of political scholar
Agreed. It's funny that Freeza canonically got the shit kicked out of him by Broly for a literal hour and more, as Goku and Vegeta's two failed fusions needed a half hour each to defuse. But it's also impressive that he didn't outright die during that time. I'm not sure if the movie should have pointed out a bit more that Freeza got his ass kicked for so long, or left it for audiences to do the math themselves.
Freeza was an evil prick in this movie (albeit with some funny moments), so seeing Broly beat the shit out of him for 1+ hour was satisfying.
I don't think I could listen to Goku say "selfish doctrine" with a straight face 😂
do you know that goku is not the only one who can use it right?
you are talking like if it is a goku developed technique or something
Is SSB2 Vegeta an actual thing? I thought they hadn't given that power-up a separate tier.
Non sense broly is stronger than beerus stated by goku and UI isn't stronger than Gogeta. You can't compare kefla strength to ssj blue gogeta
Al broly stomps
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What? No way is Gogeta/Vegito currently stronger than Ultra Instinct. Isn't that a technique from the angels, also used by the gods? Even some gods have trouble mastering it.
Broly is stronger than what Goku knows about Beerus....so 70% Beerus lol
Does anyone in the US feel that Funimation partnering with Fathom events is going to hurt it's US BO? I looked at most theaters for Saturday near me , and they're only getting one screening even though it's sold most showtimes yesterday and today. I'm surprised Sony just didn't step in with distribution as they own Funimation.
Without SSB Evolution he can't.
Golden Freeza was even stronger than Blue Vegeta on the ToP.