As disappointed as I am, it would make sense to announce things after the movie hits international audiences. Carry the momentum forward with it.
yeah it's a series trapped by its popularity really.Yeah, it comes off as a little depressing, like he still loves his baby but he's forced into something he doesn't really like. You can see he kinda gets comfort from being involved with the narrative and doing designs but he just doesn't care about the action one bit.
Beerus (+Whis) is still the damn highlight of the series in the past 10 years.
You can't have a story like Namek or the Androids/Cell in modern DB anyway.
A lot of not-fighting and too little emphasis on Goku?
I said a lot of not-fighting, not "not a lot of fighting".Namek and Android arcs didn't have much fighting? Really?
There isn't a period on Namek where you could watch four consecutive episodes without someone getting into a fight. The over emphasis on Goku in Super has been a source of complaint and led to the Tournament of Power.
The only real lull in the Android saga was the period after 18 embarrassed Vegeta and then Piccolo fought 17. Although I can't remember if Piccolo had a skirmish with Imperfect Cell before that
That Toriyama quote is absolutely beautiful.
-openly and politely calls adult dragon ball fans manchildren (he's right tho)
-says that dragon ball is "nothing but fighting"
-A little bit of casual sexism thrown in
Toriyama never change my man.
EDIT:Does anyone else get the impression that the new work he's talking about isn't Dragonball related?
Well, the merchandising sales actually grew in spite of no anime airing, so they're likely in no hurry for the next season.
BoG and FT arc have a ton of not fighting moments, they're just really short arcs.
I mean yeah, we might not see an expansive arc like Frieza/ Android that's 60+ episodes, but that's honestly for the better, looking at reactions to the ToP overall when it was a 60+ episode ordeal, but Super still tries to have plot heavy moments/ arcs.
An event january 10th is our next hope
Pretty sure that event is just a screening of the movie where people are supposed to cheer.
I really thought they were gonna adapt it into a 3 parter or something when they brought Jaco into the show to better explain him.It's only the first arc that doesn't have a lot of fighting. You can tell Toriyama would love do something like that. I think his Jaco manga would have already been adapted into an anime if it had more typical DB fights in it
I'd love it if they bring the anime back and adapt the Broly arc, they would adapt the Jaco manga into a mini-arc like that before they move onto Moro.I really thought they were gonna adapt it into a 3 parter or something when they brought Jaco into the show to better explain him.
I doubt we see any of the above 3.I'd love it if they bring the anime back and adapt the Broly arc, they would adapt the Jaco manga into a mini-arc like that before they move onto Moro.
Why? Readapting the Broly arc will actually give them time to develop a story for starters, and Moro is the next canon arc even if it's only manga-only right now.
If the show comes back by July (April still seems likely) it'll be too soon to adapt Broly. Jaco isn't super relevant overall and taking a break from the series right after it came back for Jaco would be strange, that's something better suited to a TV special.Why? Readapting the Broly arc will actually give them time to develop a story for starters, and Moro is the next canon arc even if it's only manga-only right now.
It isn't Toyotaro "filler", Toriyama is actually working on it with Toyotaro. They even held a panel at Jump Festa with Nozawa and the other VAs talking about it. It's canon, period. It doesn't matter what you think about the quality of the manga, that doesn't affect it's status. Axing it from any future Super anime continuation would make no sense.If the show comes back by July (April still seems likely) it'll be too soon to adapt Broly. Jaco isn't super relevant overall and taking a break from the series right after it came back for Jaco would be strange, that's something better suited to a TV special.
The Galactic Patrol Prisoner arc is likely Toyo filler that won't come to the anime, especially if the anime is coming in the first half of 2019 as planning would have been done before the arc even started in the manga.
It's been described as Toyotaro's arc, Toriyama is involved, but with how little they advertised that and with how little fanfare there was to the start of the arc it's very unlikely that he's very involved.It isn't Toyotaro "filler", Toriyama is actually working on it with Toyotaro. They even held a panel at Jump Festa with Nozawa and the other VAs talking about it. It's canon, period. It doesn't matter what you think about the quality of the manga, that doesn't affect it's status. Axing it from any future Super anime continuation would make no sense.
I mean Toyotaro might be doing more storywork than he's done in the past, but that doesn't mean Toriyama's contribution is "very little." It was literally announced and featured at Jump Festa as Toriyama and Toyotaro's co-creation. This isn't a case with GT where Toriyama is just being credited as series creator and that's it, this is still a collaborative effort here.It's been described as Toyotaro's arc, Toriyama is involved, but with how little they advertised that and with how little fanfare there was to the start of the arc it's very unlikely that he's very involved.
The advertisement is minuscule and they have only pushed it as the next chapter of the manga. Toriyama hasn't said a single thing, all we have is Toyotaro mentioning Toriyama is involved and that isn't some massive advertisement, in fact the Toriyama's comment after Toyotaro's was all about Broly and his next work.I mean Toyotaro might be doing more storywork than he's done in the past, but that doesn't mean Toriyama's contribution is "very little." It was literally announced and featured at Jump Festa as Toriyama and Toyotaro's co-creation. This isn't a case with GT where Toriyama is just being credited as series creator and that's it, this is still a collaborative effort here.
Eitehr way it doesn't matter whether Toriyama is involved or not, this is the next canon saga. It's being advertised and treated as such.
Why would they talk about it at all if it's irrelevant? And saying it has received little to no advertisement is literally false, but if you want to push a false narrative then that's on you. Just because you do not like the manga doesn't skew the facts to suggest that the current Galactic Patrol Prisoner arc is "non-canon" or "filler." Your opinion of Toyotaro doesn't matter in this discussion. The current manga arc is a canon continuation of the Dragon Ball Super Broly movie. That's a fact.The advertisement is minuscule and they have only pushed it as the next chapter of the manga. Toriyama hasn't said a single thing, all we have is Toyotaro mentioning Toriyama is involved isn't some massive advertisement, in fact the Toriyama's comment after Toyotaro's was all about Broly and his next work.
If Toriyama was heavily involved and this was the next main arc of the franchise they would be making a huge deal about this.
The arc wasn't announced at Jump Festa, it was talked about at Jump Festa right after Heroes, does that make Heroes the continuation of the series too?
Lmao, what? There is barely any push behind this arc and Toriyama's involvement has only been mentioned once by Toyotaro. I don't think you understand just how much they push Toriyama's involvement in things and how much noise they make about big, new arcs.Why would they talk about it at all if it's irrelevant? And saying it has received little to no advertisement is literally false, but if you want to push a false narrative then that's on you. Just because you do not like the manga doesn't skew the facts to suggest that the current Galactic Patrol Prisoner arc is "non-canon" or "filler." Your opinion of Toyotaro doesn't matter in this discussion. The current manga arc is a canon continuation of the Dragon Ball Super Broly movie. That's a fact.
Lmao, what? There is barely any push behind this arc and Toriyama's involvement has only been mentioned once by Toyotaro. I don't think you understand just how much they push Toriyama's involvement in things and how much noise they make about big, new arcs.
Stop bringing up my opinion on the manga or Toyotaro, I haven't said a single thing about my thoughts regarding those subjects in this discussion, hell I've even openly said in this thread and on Twitter that I think the most recent chapter is really good and that Moro is an amazing design.
There is no "Fact" to it being the "canon continuation of the movie", it's canon to the Super manga, yes, but as of right now that's it, and everything points to this being a manga only thing with how low key they've been about it.
I'm not even saying it can't be in the anime, I'm just saying I doubt it based on what we know.
To be fair It was really weird when the arc first started, but everything since then has just made it seem more and more like it's Toyo's own little thing.Funny thing was that you were telling me Arch how this arc could be from Toriyama back when it was announced and I had my doubts since when Toriyama makes a new story arc they shout it from the mountain top. Like they made sure Broly had Toriyama's name all over it before we even knew the title. And as you noted, they even changed the credit in the manga for the current arc to almost downplay Toriyama's involvement.
So, all signs point to this being like the Hit Arc in the anime. Not part of 'Toriyama's outline', but a decent story nonetheless that is canon to the manga.
He already contradicts his own established lore so yeah that's pretty standard.Come on guys you just know Toriyama will just contradict the hell out of Toyotaro's worldbuilding the next time he involves the Kais in the anime.
He already contradicts his own established lore so yeah that's pretty standard.
Around May.About how long do y'all think it will take for the new movie to hit dvd/bluray/digital?
Toriyama is already confirmed to be working on it and is likely doing corrections to the manga as well like he did with the previous arcs. Some of the pages in the DB Super manga are drawn entirely by Toriyana.I kinda like how Toyo is basically creating fanfiction but the original author is allowing it because hey his word is still law so who really cares what he (toyo) does.
Almost like hes still doing AF but with actual permission.
I kinda like how Toyo is basically creating fanfiction but the original author is allowing it because hey his word is still law so who really cares what he (toyo) does.
Almost like hes still doing AF but with actual permission.
So I've seen a few clips on the movie on YouTube(having already read the spoilers), and there's some interesting transformation-related stuff it got me thinking about (movie spoilers) :
So Broly can tap into Oozaru power despite having his tail removed and without transforming, and it looks like that plus his absurdly high base stats plus the Legendary/Berserk transformation is what makes him vastly outclass Kale and push Goku and Vegeta so far. So we sorta have SS4 in the sense of having oozaru and SS combining, though not the design. The shots of Vegeta briefly going green before SS (I'd seen the pictures of him doing it once, but it looks like it actually happens twice) has me wondering if tapping into that oozaru power and/or Legendary(and combining it with god ki) is what is next for Vegeta to compete with UI, given Evolved is anime-only and only on par with Blue Kaioken. It'd be in line with the more Saiyan-focused approach Vegeta tends to take, and Trunks' Rage form and Vegeta's "That's my Bulma!" moment could also possibly be foreshadowing in a sense.
So I've seen a few clips on the movie on YouTube(having already read the spoilers), and there's some interesting transformation-related stuff it got me thinking about (movie spoilers) :
So Broly can tap into Oozaru power despite having his tail removed and without transforming, and it looks like that plus his absurdly high base stats plus the Legendary/Berserk transformation is what makes him vastly outclass Kale and push Goku and Vegeta so far. So we sorta have SS4 in the sense of having oozaru and SS combining, though not the design. The shots of Vegeta briefly going green before SS (I'd seen the pictures of him doing it once, but it looks like it actually happens twice) has me wondering if tapping into that oozaru power and/or Legendary(and combining it with god ki) is what is next for Vegeta to compete with UI, given Evolved is anime-only and only on par with Blue Kaioken. It'd be in line with the more Saiyan-focused approach Vegeta tends to take, and Trunks' Rage form and Vegeta's "That's my Bulma!" moment could also possibly be foreshadowing in a sense.
I don't think you need to go to deep with those ssj colors, Nagamine the director has said he wanted to show new ways of going ssj.
Vegeta going green is just a fun color, and maybe a fake-out since it kinda looks like Vegeta is going blue.
Same with Goku going "UI".. Its just fun colors. The pupils that Goku gets is just intense emotions.. and the colors are for the effect.
You can see in the storyboard that there's no mention of UI, and the pupils are just there to show intense emotions.