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Dragon Ball Super's manga finally caught up witht the anime. And it was awful in every way.
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That's a better explanation than "hey wow, Goku's doing this silvery-hair thing that hasn't been foreshadowed a single time before this, but we're all acting as if we've known it forever" bullshit they did in the DBS anime. Roshi needs more love.
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- That's a hell of an excuse.
- Well if only we were shown any kind of training like in Z there wouldn't be a problem. There wasn't.
-Why is Krillin goes toe to toe with Blue a thing?
The scene is right here
The dialogue and the meaning of the scene is very fucking clear.
How can anyone be so dense to not get that Goku is testing Krillin? Is character interactions really that hard?
How in the world is that going toe to toe?
This is how you give Roshi love without making your new threat look like a joke.
Look. Character and Emotion. Not just power numbers.
Roshi saying Goku is a bad student after Goku has been portrayed as a genius who dominated all of his Masters lessons and has been constantly praised for it is just dumb.
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The Pokemon manga became hot garbage quite some time ago. Honestly, the current anime is better than the current manga.
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A special one shot. And it was indeed very charming
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He's one step away from making Cell X.
Google that one if you dare.
The hell is that thing lol.
Anyway, I guess this King Cold form isn't for everyone but don't put it on Asura. He's just draws what Salagir told him to.
One gave me Caulifla and Kale, the other didn't.
The superior one gave me 2 of the best characters of the series.
Easily the dumbest shit I've ever seen. Any defense of the manga at that point falls on my def ears. Next thing Launch is gonna gonna come back as a Super Saiyan.
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I'm very surprised about people defending this manga, I might even need a certain reaction shot
Might also need the reaction pose to fully convey my surprise
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Might also need the reaction pose to fully convey my surprise
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toyotaro dont get like how like , how basic story structure works
So you iused the veggie example, but in the anime, Veggie comes back and beats the cold shit out of rose
And in TOP Veggie is like the best characters, it works because after a defeat vegeta got stonger and beat some ass
But if you are so busy jerking your nostalgia boner all the time you can't really appreciate those moments because you are trying to make that character cool all the time
So you iused the veggie example, but in the anime, Veggie comes back and beats the cold shit out of rose
And in TOP Veggie is like the best characters, it works because after a defeat vegeta got stonger and beat some ass
But if you are so busy jerking your nostalgia boner all the time you can't really appreciate those moments because you are trying to make that character cool all the time
Super manga has been trash from the start. It has some decent things, like the stipulations about Blue's usage which I like since it puts some limitations on such a powerful form that keeps them from being too godly, but overall, it's a mess. Dragon Ball Mutliverse is significantly better than the manga.
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yeah, that part where the legendary super saiyan wiped out 4 universes without a single nod to their characters but then was stopped by some ropes was so concise.
Or that part about Goku learning a God of Destruction level technique he never saw...completely offscreen, consistency at its finest
What about Vegeta losing to Hit because Blue took 90% of his strength after he uses it more than once....but then he starts switching over and over between God and Blue without breaking a sweat as his secret move to beat Black?
Or that time where they say that "perfected Blue" is the most powerful version of blue because it doesnt leak the blue fire....but then they never use it again and instead they power up to fight Jiren by getting a bigger aura?
Consistency thy name is Super Manga
You guys are being mean to the manga. Personally I think it was fine until the end of Black's arc, fused Zamasu was just too lame and too weak, and I didn't like when he started to clone himself.
The tournament of Power was indeed rushed and could have been way better I agree. But I don't think he had a say in its length, and its anime counterpart dragged for way too long.
The best part of super is the end of the TOP arc, it's DBZ at its best and the manga completely screws it up. Overall I still find it very enjoyable to read, and the art style could be much worse (the super dragon ball heroes manga murdered my eyes).
The tournament of Power was indeed rushed and could have been way better I agree. But I don't think he had a say in its length, and its anime counterpart dragged for way too long.
The best part of super is the end of the TOP arc, it's DBZ at its best and the manga completely screws it up. Overall I still find it very enjoyable to read, and the art style could be much worse (the super dragon ball heroes manga murdered my eyes).
Cell made more Cell Jr's off screen?! What in the fuck??!
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No. In the Super manga they survived by regeneration. And without their father they wandered around until 17 found them and kept them in his island
Taking away part of Gohan's best moment in the process...
But the chapter is undeniably charming
It is not.
Also, is it really worth to trash every other aspect of a story just to keep consistency?
The manga is pretty bad but it's not like the "proper" version of super is all that much better. I was mostly just baffled that they got to take another crack at these stories and just fucked it up in new ways.
It's crazy how many people were on the "DBS manga is much better than the anime" train.
The mangas had its ups and downs - but it's been trash ever since they had Goku pull a hakai out of his ass despite it a) being not only a god level tech, but one innate to a very specific type of god, and b) him never having even seen it.
I thought that was the low point, ...only to find out about Roshi of all people somehow being able to use out skill Jiren.
The mangas had its ups and downs - but it's been trash ever since they had Goku pull a hakai out of his ass despite it a) being not only a god level tech, but one innate to a very specific type of god, and b) him never having even seen it.
I thought that was the low point, ...only to find out about Roshi of all people somehow being able to use out skill Jiren.
That fight between all the gods of destruction was the only thing I've enjoyed in the Super manga thus far. Seeing how Hit was handled, it looks like it's going to stay that way...
Lmao same, only chapter of the arc I truly liked in hindsight, and still do.
Everything involving Hit in ToP was just pure trash in comparison to the anime. I don't see how anyone can look at the fight in the manga and say that anything Toyotaro has done is anywhere near as good as the anime.
That shit was worse than Xicor.
The manga is a very mixed bag, but it's not absolute trash. It really suffered from the fast-forwarded pacing, though (even if the anime ToP suffered from rather slow pacing by comparison, I mean, for God's sake, the whole thing was supposed to be 48 minutes and it takes up 34 episodes, but I guess that's anime time expansion for ya). That being said, I do at least appreciate that the ToP in the manga actually feels like a battle royale and not "Team U7 takes out half the competitors". (I'm being hyperbolic, yes, but it certainly feels like it.)
The Roshi scene isn't even remotely that egregious, all he really does is dodge, and gets away with it because Jiren isn't taking him seriously. Once Jiren goes "huh, that was a thing", he just casually one-shots him. Goku finally figuring out what Roshi and Whis were on about with the art of self-movement and giving it a serious try is frankly way better than Goku somehow achieving that state of mind because a spirit bomb black hole blew up in his face.
And even if it was mostly off-panel, I do appreciate that my boy Gohan went out via mutual KO against the second-strongest non-U7 fighter in the tournament, who SSB Goku couldn't beat in the anime.
Though, frankly, both the manga and anime have significant issues. I wouldn't have done it the way either of them did Super.
The Roshi scene isn't even remotely that egregious, all he really does is dodge, and gets away with it because Jiren isn't taking him seriously. Once Jiren goes "huh, that was a thing", he just casually one-shots him. Goku finally figuring out what Roshi and Whis were on about with the art of self-movement and giving it a serious try is frankly way better than Goku somehow achieving that state of mind because a spirit bomb black hole blew up in his face.
And even if it was mostly off-panel, I do appreciate that my boy Gohan went out via mutual KO against the second-strongest non-U7 fighter in the tournament, who SSB Goku couldn't beat in the anime.
Though, frankly, both the manga and anime have significant issues. I wouldn't have done it the way either of them did Super.
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To be fair, I'd say that that Toriyama shares as much blame for the problems with the manga as Toyotaro.
In the Japanese manga volumes, Toyotaro comments on how Toriyama would look over his pencils, redraw panels / characters or even edit the dialogue.
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In the Japanese manga volumes, Toyotaro comments on how Toriyama would look over his pencils, redraw panels / characters or even edit the dialogue.
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Why would Goku need to power up to his most powerful form to "test" Krillin, if even you agree that it's absurd to even entertain the thought that Krillin would be anywhere near Goku?
This is a really, really dumb way to attempt to close a power level gap by non power level related means.
It's amazing how this series keeps getting worse and worse the more I hear about it.
Not gonna lie, if Freeza looked like that instead of his garbage Golden Freeza form, I would have been able to accept his bullshit power up marginally a bit more.
It's an incredibly difficult technique that not even the GoDs have been able to master. It does involve a power level because just not anything is supposed to be able to use it. It is a God level technique.
Well, this is a manga thing. It never even close to happens in the anime. It's definitely one of the lowest points in the manga too.
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Because earlier the series makes a point about Krillin being insecure/afraid to ever fight agains due to his lack of power. What is character development?
Krillin even Freezes a little when he sees Goku at full power,before getting over it and fighting till the end...that was the freaking point.
Also thanks for letting us know you haven't watched the show. I can now ignore your arguments.
He clearly wanted to hurry up and focus on his favorite, Broly.
Actually, I like the manga more. The anime is way to over done and pretentious. The anime feels like a shonen soap opera. The manga is much more down to earth. To wit; "Infinite Zamasu" was ridiculously dumb and non-sensical in the anime.
The issue with the manga is that it's rushed. The pacing is poor and needs to slow down a bit. (For example, in the latest chapeter, 42, the entire Super Shenron wish is like three panels!)
The issue with the manga is that it's rushed. The pacing is poor and needs to slow down a bit. (For example, in the latest chapeter, 42, the entire Super Shenron wish is like three panels!)