Dragon Quest 11: Echoes of an Elusive Age |OT| Classic Combat Camera is Crucial

PlanetSmasher

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Just switch out each of the relevant people when they get pepped. I didn’t find any of those early ones very annoying; some of the later act 2 ones took a little more time but it’s fine enough.

good prep for grinding strats too, if you ever need that
I only have five characters so far, so I can't switch out everyone I need to pep up. I've tried that strategy once but the protagonist got pepped up early and ran out of juice before I could get to the specific enemy I needed to Pep kill.
 

deepFlaw

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I only have five characters so far, so I can't switch out everyone I need to pep up. I've tried that strategy once but the protagonist got pepped up early and ran out of juice before I could get to the specific enemy I needed to Pep kill.
Protag actually has a skill on the bottom tree for pepping whenever, fwiw. It’s the mystery panel and it’s very easy to access; I think you’d need... 57 points, it included? If you have the money and this is a problem, you could just respec to grab that, assuming you can still keep the skill you need for the power. Or just wait till you get another character.

I did not realize that skill was so easily accessible till waaaaaaay late in act 2....
 

splash wave

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Made it to Zwaardsrust last night and I’ve officially been forced to mute the music to retain my sanity.

How many more of these “defeat a specific enemy with this specific pep power” sidequests are there? They’re so goddamn frustrating.
Not a ton, but they're pretty easy if you simply just wait to do those quests when the relevant party members are pepped up. Just swap them out until you find the enemy in question.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Not a ton, but they're pretty easy if you simply just wait to do those quests when the relevant party members are pepped up. Just swap them out until you find the enemy in question.
When do I get a sixth character? I imagine fairly soon if I just got to Zwaardsrust, since every major town seems to mean at least one new character.
 

deepFlaw

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Good. I'm feeling like the party is seriously lacking a heavy hitter aside from Veronica right now. Erik is surprisingly weak and Signore Italiano feels more like a buffer/debuffer than an outright damage dealer.
How do you have Erik set up?

He always did the most damage for me. Status effect target, debuff target, buff him, knife attack that multiplies when there’s status effects. When Divide’s in the mix, can use it to have a better chance of him applying the statuses and then again to do even more damage.

Of course, I often spent too much time caring about setting it up. But it decimated bosses, so.
 

Strawhat_Do

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How do you have Erik set up?

He always did the most damage for me. Status effect target, debuff target, buff him, knife attack that multiplies when there’s status effects. When Divide’s in the mix, can use it to have a better chance of him applying the statuses and then again to do even more damage.

Of course, I often spent too much time caring about setting it up. But it decimated bosses, so.
Erik was my heavy hitter as well. Use divide with critical claim did a number on bosses.
 

Birdie

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Erik's Stealh Rock style move that punishes foes for like 96 damage each action is great too.
 

Lindsay

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Oh hey I was forgetting about this games OT! Safe to expect a spoiler-free zone? Started on the 1st with the goal of putting at least an hours times every day. With it being the weekend now I'm sure ta get much more than that! Currently over 11 hours in and no Sylvando, I DO mind you trying ta force your way into the party! Oh for the days when you could reject potential party members and they'd be like "ok bye". um... I dun think such a time existed but still!

My poorly named hero's going great big huge swords all the way cause nuts to tradition! I always like boomerangs in these games so its a no brainer ta have Erik get some use outta 'em. I only just earlier noticed Veronica had a whip in her inventory but I think I'll ignore that. Kept her AI on "fight wisely" an its been working out for me cause I'm normally an MP miser which'd make regular battles longer/harder! I saw uhh I already forgot her name healer girl can use spears and I always like those to but stat-wise would she really be able to make good use of 'em? Also noticed those lil critters from the intro seem to show up around where treasure/items lying around can be found. Thanks lil guys!
 

Isamu

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man, I'm around lvl 52-54-ish and unlocking these skill panels are becoming a real slog. Getting pretty expensive too.

What level can I expect my characters to be, if I'm aiming to unlock ALL skill panels for them?

Is there a place to somehow farm for skill point potions or whatever? Or do we simply have to continue leveling up?
 

deepFlaw

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I believe you’ll need to farm a bit for skill seeds for some characters as they won’t have enough even at max level. Though I’m not sure which characters or where you farm them.

Beyond that, obviously you get more points per level the higher you go, so there’s that. Plus it’s not like everyone actually needs everything since you’re probably focusing on one weapon. And if you’re not doing so already, don’t forget that you can use respeccing to be a little creative with what skills you have access to by going across trees.
 

Isamu

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I believe you’ll need to farm a bit for skill seeds for some characters as they won’t have enough even at max level. Though I’m not sure which characters or where you farm them.

Beyond that, obviously you get more points per level the higher you go, so there’s that. Plus it’s not like everyone actually needs everything since you’re probably focusing on one weapon. And if you’re not doing so already, don’t forget that you can use respeccing to be a little creative with what skills you have access to by going across trees.

Thanks for the reply. If you find out where the location is for skill seeds let me know.
 

Lindsay

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Did this game take a step back in terms of inventory organization? Feel like I remember at least DQ9 had a command to straight empty characters pockets of unequipped stuffs, and 11's also missing cursor memory for the Transfer command. The lack of these things along with how laggy the menus are really makes dealing with items and the forge suck. And did I spy materials stolen from baddies in Eriks pockets instead of the bag? C'mon game...
 

Birdie

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There is, it's like a button press (triangle?) on a character's inventory to dump to bag everything but equipment and, for some reason, Yggdrasil Leaves.
 

Lindsay

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Ohhh there it is, thanks! There's organise items in the top item menu and simply organise in each individual characters pockets. Confusing but it does help clear up the clutter!
 

Kromeo

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A load of blacked out extra skills have appeared on eriks skill tree, is that something all characters get?
 

Birdie

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Hmm I got the boat and to the ocean...pretty fun exploring.

Going with Hero, Erik, Veronica, and Jade as my main party. Other two switched in here and there.

I haven't bought any new equipment forever...forging all of it. I imagine that's what you should be doing huh? I have like tons of money saved up now haha.

I suck at gambling mini games though. It's too confusing.
 

OtakuCoder

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So I've hit post-game, but I feel underlevelled for everything. I'm about 51 right now, any quick and effective ways to level up?
 

deepFlaw

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You should look up the specifics, but the general approach is: pep power that boosts exp + pep power that summons metal enemies + pep power that puts metal enemies to sleep so they can be killed.
 

PlanetSmasher

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What's the best way to make money? I'm seriously starting to lag behind in the armor/weapons department.

Also, can anyone recommend to me the best weapon specs for each character? Right now I have hero using greatsword, Erik using dual daggers, Jade using spears, Rab using heavy cane, Serena using rod and shield, Sylvando using sword/shield and Veronica using heavy staff. I had hero and Eric using S/Sh and boomerang respectively for the Metal Slayer abilities, but metal slimes seem so rare it didn't feel worth it to specialize both of them entirely around that.
 

deepFlaw

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That’s been my setup, but I had Sylvando on whip (and I think Serena on dual wands but that shouldn’t matter too much). He mainly heals/buffs but can use whip skills to help with the Erik status effect combos if Erik’s not getting that to stick himself, and so on.

I was never lacking in money but I very very rarely bought any equipment (so only when there was a big upgrade that was cheap enough to merit it) and just crafted instead, including upgrading to +3 as it became easier. Make sure you’re checking bookshelves for recipes, and raiding everyone’s homes and such for items. I’ve found pretty great weapons just sitting there in people’s wardrobes... though I guess that one was from royalty, IIRC, but still.
 

Birdie

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So I've got a gap in recipe books, missing one right after the Drasilian Armor set.

Can someone point me in the general direction? Doesn't seem like a sidequest I missed.
 

deepFlaw

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So I've got a gap in recipe books, missing one right after the Drasilian Armor set.

Can someone point me in the general direction? Doesn't seem like a sidequest I missed.
If this guide I found is ordered correctly... Is The Dapper Chap on the other side of the gap?

If so, it’s at...

Octagonia orphanage
 

Lindsay

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After 1 week I'm at 25 hours played, have assembled a full party, an just smashed a big squid!
Am I moving along at a good clip?
 

Birdie

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That's my progress too more or less Lindsay

How are you sidequest wise? I've done all of them so far bar the bunny suit because I don't like gambling minigames haha.

If this guide I found is ordered correctly... Is The Dapper Chap on the other side of the gap?

If so, it’s at...

Octagonia orphanage
I'll need to check when I get home but I don't think so because that location is before you visit Dundrasil.
 

Lindsay

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That's my progress too more or less Lindsay

How are you sidequest wise? I've done all of them so far bar the bunny suit because I don't like gambling minigames haha.
Same! Didn't know the bunny suit was in the casino, I didn't notice that in its prize lineup on first visit. Gambling means tons of saving and reseting which is a pain for when you're manually tracking time played, but if thats the place to get it then I'll just have ta get gambling away next time!
 

Birdie

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Its cheap enough you can buy it without gambling. I actually did it and then won 500 coins right after haha.

I just haven't made the stuff yet. Toriyama's bunny girl obsession is weird.
 

leng jai

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Welp can't figure out how to fix the launch crashing on my PC, even tried deleting all my saves. Looks like I'm never finishing this.
 

Gloam

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This quest for the painter to beat a spitfire with a certain pep attack is bothersome to me. I think I might be too high a level, my party don't seem to be pepping up all too readily in the desert area.
 

Lindsay

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I've encountered Liquid Metal Slimes an now I'm leveling up more running around trying to kill one that I would be if I'd actually killed one! Not leaving this place until I get 'em!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I finally finished the game, 100% of achievements, 140 hours, with Stronger monsters.

What an amazing game, it's probably the best DQ ever.
 

Lindsay

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Finally defeated not one but two LMS! Then proceeded to crush the boss of the area in 2 turns cause I'd gained like 5 levels lol. Did more questing, now in an exploring phase including having now visited all the mini-islands and now finding an orb location blindly! New places, new baddies, all fleeing in terror from my overleveled butt mwahaha!
 

bonkasaurus

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Whew, finally got Jade and Rab. So.. Spears or claws for Jade?
The scene with Rab crying made me really sad.
 

Lindsay

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After doing several things outta order I then ended up in tales of backtracking to properly do what needed to be done in those areas! Whoops! The final orb is all ready for me to claim it! And then...???
 

Lucreto

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I hated that Tentacular fight. I turned off strong enemies just to beat it. I was 3 levels about the recommend level and used the cannon and still was destroyed. Sleep didn't stick for me when it did it didn't last very long.

I am thinking of starting the game again even though I just recruited the last Character. The hard mode left a negative perception that this game doesn't deserve. Hopefully a clean playthough will get rid of it. But Vesperia first.
 

bonkasaurus

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Strong monsters is good for regular enemies, but bosses seem way too powerful while using it. It took me like three hours to beat the slayer of the sands.
 

BriareosGAF

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Ultimately the boss fights often veer between trivial and infuriating depending on how the "status RNG" dance goes. It's one of the core weaknesses of the game's combat system and sadly hasn't really changed over the years.
 

Lindsay

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I crushed that oversized squid with regular old magic and abilities. Whats this cannon business all about?

Okies I and the game itself coulda lived w/o that scene leaving Sniflheim portraying Rab as a dirty old man. Just sayin'. He didn't come across as the type but nopes thats his character now. Thank whichever writer decided to give him that trait.
 
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Psxphile

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I crushed that oversized squid with regular old magic and abilities. Whats this cannon business all about?
Are you playing on Standard? I was and I trounced the boss before even setting foot in Lonalulu (sp?) for the first time.

Apparently talking to the old woman on the cliff above town (or was it in her house?) before taking on Tentacular will cause her to shoot her cannon during the first turn, knocking it out for a few turns I think. Totally missed it myself.