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Dragon Quest Community Thread |OT| Party Chat
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I would like DQ VIII has in-game description for the skills before to have to allocate points on them. I'm reading in the Wikia site about Jessica and lol, her best skill in her personal set is the last one to get. Pass.
Just look at the world around you, right here on the ocean floor. Such wonderful things surround you. . . what more is you lookin' for?
~Beneath the ocean,
beneath the ocean
We make big commotion
beneath the ocean~
That just makes the crime premeditated, you glorious bastard.
Start over! Unless you're already deep into the game.
I'm playing the 3DS version (well I was before grown-up responsibilities consumed me) and I gotta say, the lack of a right analog stick is frustrating. There are so many slopes in the overworld and vertical panning is done with the D-pad, so it's a lot of stop-and-look which leaves me vulnerable to random encounters. Running away seems to work pretty well but it's still kind of sloggy.
Shame on me, I clicked on the DQ XI spoiler thread I ate some good ones that were shown in the gigantic image. I could still convince myself that they are a misunderstanding or something like that.
Anyway, I'm loving the game, playing it with harder battles is the perfect difficulty for me. Not gonna bother with the "lower enemies don't give exp" since if I do that the game will feel like grinding, and from experience with other RPG'S were I put this option, is not fun at all
Anyway, I'm loving the game, playing it with harder battles is the perfect difficulty for me. Not gonna bother with the "lower enemies don't give exp" since if I do that the game will feel like grinding, and from experience with other RPG'S were I put this option, is not fun at all
If you hate the idea of using a guide then when in doubt, specialize. It's better to throw your points into one skill (each) and pick up all the bonuses along the way than to spread them around. You'll miss out on the optimized builds but the game's not so difficult that that level of min-maxing feels essential. Heck, I threw all of Jessica's points into sword (not advised by any FAQ and in retrospect I see why) yet made it all the way to the 3rd or 4th postgame boss fight before my super-crappy builds were too much to overcome.
Oh, yeah. Eventually you can equip swords if you throw points into knife, hence my screw-up, but anyway. . . whee.
Probably the worst for everyone except Yangus. I hear that can work for him.
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To recap all of that, throwing each character's points into one skill is suboptimal but rarely crippling; that said, some skills are clearly better than others. The builds I've found don't max out skills so much as avoid (or carefully ration) investment in ones with crappy growth.
I'm not far into the game myself but based on my brief research you can max out two skills by end of game or early postgame, and a third at very high levels. I'm thinking pick a weapon and at least get it to that last damage boost.
MC: (spear OR sword) + courage (90)
Yangus: axes + humanity (82)
Jessica: whip, staff (100), appeal (100). Staff is a late-blooming skill that's good for post-game, one of the few you really want to max out, but since you need to really get your levels up to max out a third skill, I'm thinking do it first, last, or not at all.
Angelo: This guy's builds are rather messy but it looks like bow (88) and charisma (81) are safe investments, with staff (65) another consideration.
To recap all of that, throwing each character's points into one skill is suboptimal but rarely crippling; that said, some skills are clearly better than others. The builds I've found don't max out skills so much as avoid (or carefully ration) investment in ones with crappy growth.
I'm not far into the game myself but based on my brief research you can max out two skills by end of game or early postgame, and a third at very high levels. I'm thinking pick a weapon and at least get it to that last damage boost.
MC: (spear OR sword) + courage (90)
Yangus: axes + humanity (82)
Jessica: whip, staff (100), appeal (100). Staff is a late-blooming skill that's good for post-game, one of the few you really want to max out, but since you need to really get your levels up to max out a third skill, I'm thinking do it first, last, or not at all.
Angelo: This guy's builds are rather messy but it looks like bow (88) and charisma (81) are safe investments, with staff (65) another consideration.
I didn't forget, but they weren't in the FAQs I found. Like I said, I didn't dig all that deep, since I'm not interested in micromanaging the perfect build, myself.
I'll have to dig something up later for you later when you can recruit them (which is much later on). IIRC they aren't rocket science.
I should be finishing up on DQV and start XI, but...
I've managed to port the official mobile script to DW1 on NES.
Now I can hear some of you crying, "Boo! Why can't we get the proper logo in here?" Believe me if I could I would, but the graphics programming is a MESS, you'd pretty much have to reprogram the title screen from scratch and that's daunting for even the most experienced ROM hacker letalone an amateur like me. I figured this would be a great compromise. Hope to get this out soon for those interested.
I've managed to port the official mobile script to DW1 on NES.
Now I can hear some of you crying, "Boo! Why can't we get the proper logo in here?" Believe me if I could I would, but the graphics programming is a MESS, you'd pretty much have to reprogram the title screen from scratch and that's daunting for even the most experienced ROM hacker letalone an amateur like me. I figured this would be a great compromise. Hope to get this out soon for those interested.
Had a prolonged hospital visit that took me away from DQXI so I decided to finally play DQIII on my phone! Liking it so far, but just now starting to get my ass kicked by Orochi. I think I could grind a bit to hit level 23/24 like I've seen advised online (I was only level 18 when I got to it).
I'm kind of stuck as to whether I want to swap a job or two and then grind back up to beat it or beat it and then do that. And I'm also not sure what to do about jobs. I honestly didn't know the job swapping system before starting. Thought you'd have to stick with what you first choose or have other characters. I've been using Soldier, Priest, and Mage. Might change Priest to Sage. Maybe Mage to Martial Artist so I have him with Oomph. Not sure what to do about Soldier, though. Maybe keep it I guess? Any advise?
I'm kind of stuck as to whether I want to swap a job or two and then grind back up to beat it or beat it and then do that. And I'm also not sure what to do about jobs. I honestly didn't know the job swapping system before starting. Thought you'd have to stick with what you first choose or have other characters. I've been using Soldier, Priest, and Mage. Might change Priest to Sage. Maybe Mage to Martial Artist so I have him with Oomph. Not sure what to do about Soldier, though. Maybe keep it I guess? Any advise?
Change the Mage to Sage ASAP, maaaybe change you Soldier to a Fighter, and wait to the endgame to start trying crazy stuff.
Please don't do mage to martial artist.
See my post as well as a few others just before that in this thread: https://www.resetera.com/posts/11268189/
Best with what you have would probably be keeping the priest a priest until you get another book, mage to sage, and maybe just keeping soldier a soldier. If you must change the soldier, do to martial artist. If you must change the priest, do it to mage or to goof off and then sage.
Hmm... Something like that was my other option. I was thinking of eventually changing Soldier to Martial Artist, Priest to Sage and Mage to Priest.
Probably don't want to do all of them at once or else I'd be grinding forever. Any advice on how to stagger those?
Those would work.
Basically just don't do magic user to physical attacker and the other way around.
Don't stagger. You can gain EXP fast in the tower where you get the sage book. Metal slimes show up frequently.
I finished DQVI. I had lower expectations going in to this one from what people have said, but I actually really liked this one. The world map and the way it interconnected was pretty interesting between the real & dream world. And the story and way things progressed had a mystery feeling to me.
Also realized where one of my favorite songs in DQXI came from.
Also realized where one of my favorite songs in DQXI came from.
I got Angelo already. This game sure is fast to let you have a complete party, not like how it was in VII.
Everything about every other DQ games is fast compared to VII. :p
Achieved this last night in 11.
Sadly, I didn't have the ball to go double or nothing. 1.1M is fine with me for now.
Sadly, I didn't have the ball to go double or nothing. 1.1M is fine with me for now.
Best way to structure this was just putting all my responses in-line with the quotes, I used yellow text.
Thanks for both of these write-ups. Really thoughtful stuff.
A guy in the NPD is saying that DQXI made more than twice as much $ as DQIX.
DQIX did 132K in it's first month at roughly half the price of DQXI, so at the bare minimum DQXI sold more than that, probably somewhere in the 150-200K range.
DQXI is also at around ~150K on steam, so looking at somewhere between 300-400K, plus whatever it did in Europe (probably a nominal amount). Don't think it'll get to a million western sales until the Switch version, but >300K is not a bad first month.
DQIX did 132K in it's first month at roughly half the price of DQXI, so at the bare minimum DQXI sold more than that, probably somewhere in the 150-200K range.
DQXI is also at around ~150K on steam, so looking at somewhere between 300-400K, plus whatever it did in Europe (probably a nominal amount). Don't think it'll get to a million western sales until the Switch version, but >300K is not a bad first month.
I somehow doubt the fact that XI made more money than IX, considering that it likely cost more to make since it had to be redone again for the West and then voice acting added, without Nintendo footing the bill. Plus the dollar is only worth like 85% what it was when IX was released. But I guess it is good that it is in many players hands.
I'd only do this with an emulator so you can frame skip; otherwise it'll be a slog. The game won't hold back on encounter sizes so with only one turn per round and limited group attack options, it's a lot of eating hits in combat. I did reduced party (3 members) and that was still a slog. All goof-offs is essentially solo-ing with a bit more going on, but that could get old.
Otherwise, I dunno, the enduring thing about DQ3 is that there are so many ways to play it.
- One formation I actually ran was Soldier-Soldier-Hero-Cleric (eventually Sage). Holy moly, what a tank-y formation. TPK was never a risk but I couldn't warp out of dungeons until the Hero learned it.
- One formation suggested by the old Famicom guidebook was Hero-Monk-Merchant-Merchant, for those concerned with the Hero's retirement fund.
- "The Fifth Element" run - Hero (Korben), Fighter (Leeloo), Cleric (Vito), Goof-off (Ruby Rhod), no class changes. Eh, kind of conventional, come to think of it.
- LotR Hobbit Run - Hero (Frodo), Thief (Sam), Thief (Merry), Goof-off (Pippin), Merry and Pippin switch to Soldier, and you have to flee from all undead encounters. You may end the run at Necrogond, for obvious reasons.
- "Harry Potter" run - Hero (Harry), Wizard (Ron), Wizard (Herm), no class changes. Random encounters will be faster than usual; bosses could be problematic.
- The Anti-Wizards and Harry Potter is Overrated (Yes I Said That) Muggles League run, Soldier-Hero-Monk-Thief, no class changes, no spellcasting. Herbs and magic items only.
Alternatively, the no Hero run -- make party, immediately kill off Hero in the first encounter, beat the game with just the others. The only reason to do this is to "show the game" that the Hero isn't needed (yeah that'll learn it), unless dragging around his/her corpse means something.
Another way to play would be a "crime-less" run -- unless absolutely necessary to advance the game, no breaking & entering, looting towns, or desecrating graves. You don't enter a residence, open a chest in town, or touch a possession without the owner's permission in advance. Even in public buildings (read: castles), assume any bedroom and such is off-limits. Picking things up off the ground and dungeon looting are OK (except the Pyramid which is one large grave, so in that case you grab only the Magic Key because you can't progress without it). You will miss out on some very nice goodies like the poison needle and meteorite armband, as well as a number of mini-medal rewards (DQ3 is oddly pro-larceny). I suggest Hero-Monk-Cleric-Cleric for maximum moralizing. Changing the clerics to sages is OK.
You can take that a step further and do a "stuffy conservative" run where on top of abiding by the law you also avoid any bar, gambling arena, dance show or puf-puf invitation (and of course absolutely refuse to wear any swimsuit -- I never!), though killing is OK because We Are Righteous. I'm not sure if there's any additional impact beyond role-playing. It makes the Romaly quest interesting -- do you skip it, or fetch the King against your moral code? Maybe you can make a typical party and pretend only the cleric/sage is stuffy so not having him/her around at the time makes things straightforward. OTOH to do the Great Eginbear Heist you need to first warp to Aliahan, drop off the cleric, warp to Eginbear, complete the quest, warp back to Aliahan. . . it's not really challenging, it's just for larfs. In that case you CAN loot in general, but you have to remove the cleric first. That means running the Pyramid without a cleric.
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I have tried, and tried, and tried, but I just cannot game on an iPhone.
I really like DQ III, but the platform is preventing me from enioying it. Just doesn't feel natural.
No other way to play III elsewhere besides the gameboy color release?
Dont ge twhy Squar ehasn't ported the mobile versions to steam.
I really like DQ III, but the platform is preventing me from enioying it. Just doesn't feel natural.
No other way to play III elsewhere besides the gameboy color release?
Dont ge twhy Squar ehasn't ported the mobile versions to steam.