I wish people (chinese game reviewers that I read, mostly) had talked about his views/actions more, so I wouldn't have bought DQXI, at least not new.
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Dragon Quest composer Koichi Sugiyama isn't happy just being a war crime denier, is anti-LGBT too!
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That's a dilemma that we have to face at times, and it's up to you to make that decision. Hundreds of people worked in the game, it's not just the work of that single hateful man, and I already bought my copy so I'm already doomed haha.
With how long they take to make a mainline game, this or the next will probably be the last mainline games he will ever work on anyways.
Get off your high horse with your both sides nonsense, it's tiresome.
Plenty of composers with orchestral experience. Sugiyama didn't work alone. Hitoshi Sakimoto has worked on Dragon Quest VI even and its lush SNES arrangements proves he has it. There is also Hayato Matsuo. Kazuhiko Toyama is also a great fit
did you know that disliking someone who laughs at the idea that gay people should kill themselves and actively works toward eliminating his countries history of war crimes is just as bad as doing all of those things
it's exactly the same and not a lazy false equivilance to try and make yourself seem superior to people at all
This is not even remotely true. It's the exception, not the rule.
i dont see many people saying they hope he dies
i do see people saying he's 87 and they won't shed a tear when he does die
there's a difference
I'll be happy when Dragon Quest never again features a single one of his compositions. It doesn't need him, his hateful opinions, or his music. Fuck him. A dozen talented composers half his age could replace him tomorrow.
It's not that simple and Dragon Quest unfortunately is nothing on the west, unlike in Japan where DQ is one of the biggest pieces of media and it's music is extremely iconic.
That without count the fact that Sugiyama has copyright on the franchise, which SE can't do anything about him if they want to.
This is actually better than modern Sugiyama tracks. lol
Would be great to replace him.
I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm judging you. It's different. :)
You wanna judge people, we can judge you too. Don't like it? Too bad. Be the better person!
Trash the music, its garbage tier anyways. Cute on the NES, but it truly didn't make the transition.
Please feel free to enlighten me with some pearls of wisdom. Before I return the favour.
Hopefully the next position he finds himself in is permanent.
no you show up to his funeral and cry or SO MUCH FOR THE TOLERANT LEFT
to some of these peeps lmao
This has been a weird thread. One of the weirder ones I've seen on this site, actually. It's peak ResetEra in a lot of ways. As for the topic at hand, this is certainly disheartening, and it is appalling that such views fall adequately within the mainstream for Square Enix to continue this man's employment.
Well I guess now I have another reason to wish SE would get a different composer for Dragon Quest besides the fact the series has terrible music.
Not the first time Sugiyama is doing this kind of shit.
Not the first time Square Enix ignored it.
literally anyone
have system of a down do the music who gives a fuck
Yes, I'm not going to stop to play one of my most expected games because of him and I'm not someone who does boycott either. I'll buy it to support a franchise that I like and the other staff of SE, not him.
Sugiyama has too much clout to be part of an outrage or scandal in Japan unless he kills a man in broad daylight.
For the longest time, most composers in the Japanese game industry worked as company employees instead of freelancers. It is true that for those who have made a name for themselves, they have increasingly opted to go freelance for the reason that it allows them the opportunity to negotiate ownership of their own music. But for all the composers who worked on games while in the employ of a company, that work belongs to the company, not the individual. Sugiyama is in a unique position because he was never in the employ of Enix from the very start. Uematsu and Meguro do not fully own their own music at all. Meguro is in fact still an employee of Atlus, and is the head of their sound division now. So when he issues a takedown, he is doing it on behalf of Atlus. If he were to ever leave Atlus, his prior work does not entirely belong to him by default. That's not how it works.
Man, I hate that I need to defend it in a thread like this but DQ music is in no way trash or terrible. It's very good in all of the games. The Battle Theme of DQ8 and DQ11 are one of my favorite of all time, for example.
I could always boycott their games but Square Enix is basically dead to me already so it wouldn't be much of a protest.
SE would sooner just stop bringing the series West and lock it in Japan where it's even harder to kick up a stink.
How has SE not dropped his ass? Having people like that in your work force may work in Japan but it doesn't fly in the west. Fuck that piece of shit.
There are plenty of old people who accept people for who they are. Age is not an excuse. Its really not unfair that we don't want garbage human beings on earth.
Yeah like I wonder what the reaction would be like in Japan if this happened, especially because DQ is such an institution there
Read the damn thread. He's not your standard octogenarian conservative who defaults to the status quo and doesn't really understand the LGBT thing, he's a far right nationalist who got his jollies at the idea of LGBT people killing themselves.
Even if they do, they have the good sense not to make it a massive part of their public and fiscal lives in an effort to spread toxic propaganda in order to muddy the waters of progressive thought. However, in this case, we have a creative laughing at the concept of fellow human beings committing suicide under this preposterous pretense of being unable to grow the population. This is just absurd.
If square really wants DQ to take off in the west, they'll know what they have to do, once the mainstream gets word of this, its all over, people wont separate the actual game from the music composer
Real talk, you're always likely going to be giving money to a bigot or two if you play Japanese games. There is a widely acknowledged cultural problem. The difference here is this twat is publicly vocal about it.
This struck me as, in all probability, more of an ATLUS thing than Shoji Meguro himself. I mean, we're talking about a company that disallow PS4 screenshot features for Persona 5 out of some backward ass reasons of "people spoilering their games." Not to mention region-locking their PS3 games.
They're control freaks.
Unless there are any other occasion of him acting like a jerk?
Guess I am glad not into the music (well not being into DQ at all, but anyway), cause it would be more heartbreaking to hear how really shitty he is. This series deserves better on this end.
Everyone has different taste, I've always felt it was the worst part of the series, personally.
I really hope I live to see the day when people who parade their bigotry in public are immediately challenged and asked to explain themselves. There is nothing positive about assholes being coddled in permissive social bubbles. They should have to defend their callous views on the spot.
It's not like boycotting it on the west would do something about it. The only thing that it would achieve would be the series not coming anymore for bad sales if it had some kind of repercussion which I doubt it will for the franchise that is niche.
Because SE can't do that if they want to. Sugiyama has copyright on the series as one of the creators along Toriyama and Horii
Well, definitely many do. It's not that different than the west in that regard. We just don't know since those people won't talk about it for the most part.
Fuck this piece of shit. I've hated him since I found out he denies war-crimes committed by Japan. He is just awful.
Also lol at the posters trying to say posters wishing death on him are comparable to his homophobia which includes wishing death on them and denying the atocirities committed in Nanking. Keep embarrassing yourselves with your false equivuilancies.
Also lol at the posters trying to say posters wishing death on him are comparable to his homophobia which includes wishing death on them and denying the atocirities committed in Nanking. Keep embarrassing yourselves with your false equivuilancies.
I am so disappointed as I like his compositions. I always knew he has horribly twisted views on the war. However, this does not surprise me because of his age, and that it is Japan. I always worry that other favorite composers in his age group will be the same way (Koroku Reijoro).
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