Discussion in 'Video Games' started by duckroll, Jul 23, 2018.
I even remember reading somewhere that other game composer, like Uematsu, look up to Sugiyama as inspiration in composing game music.
Other well-known video game music composer got their fame from doing video game music.
Sugiyama is the only one who has bargaining power to keep ownership of his music.
To be honest, I think even after he retire from composing, his company will still have hold on DQ music.
I don't see SE dropping the classic DQ theme which was composed by him.
Also, this was a shitty video to watch as a gay dude. Scummy people with even more scummy ideals.
I mean that's how Uematsu was able to do his recent tour without Square Enix's involvement.
And the reason he vehemently refuses to let audiences outside Japan hear the orchestrated versions of his works, instead of shitty MIDIs, when he would only be financially benefiting by licensing them, is?
Nature sure is taking its sweet time with this guy, ugh.
I really thought he couldn't get any worse, but yeah.
And yeah, that's what I was thinking. Even after his death or if somehow he retires, the copyright still will exist there. If by death, probably the family will retain it? Or maybe people that work on his company? Thinking about that now, it'll be very difficult.
How can such an awful person make such beautiful music? That shouldn't happen!
Your comment however comes off as him having copyright makes him an ass. So "/s" all you want, I don't regret scolding you.
What a horrible horrible human being......
Goddamit Sugiyama, why you gotta be such a piece of shit?
Unless by interpret you mean he literally does not want non-Japanese people to hear his music. In which case, how is someone withholding licensing for a purely racist motive not "being an ass" with their rights? Just because copyright law makes someone the god of their own work doesn't mean we can't hold their actions up to a different form of scrutiny.
Just about everything I learn about the DQ composer makes me hate the fucker more.
The fact he'll almost assuredly keep his job, and all his power, after this is really depressing. I really hope it affects Square Enix's bottom line - I know I'm probably going to wind up getting DQXI used now, if I bother to play through it at all. I know that's not fair on the other, decent people who worked on it but I have to draw the line somewhere.
His music is iconic, sure, but honestly it's overdone. Literally every Dragon Quest trailer I've seen uses the same main theme and it's incredibly stale now. I know DQ is a series all about tradition but eventually you have to get rid of the old to make way for the new, especially when the old is vile and leaves a stain on anything it touches.
I know Japan is making some strides in LGBT rights but those in power need to show their support soon or they're going to look incredibly awkward on the global stage.
However, I do want to emphasize the level of organization of the Anti-LGBT+ efforts in Japan. They very effectively tie together social ignorance and Japan's population with the existence of the LGBT+ community and friendly spaces. Sugita (and Sugiyama more-so) is not some rogue Trump-like figures, she is an extension of a conservative LDP ruled Japan and a Japanese feminist movement of the last 60 years that absolutely abhors the LGBT+ community and has organized politically (often successfully) to marginalize the community even further. From this thread and even the youtube clip it would seem Sugiyama is an outlier, but he is very much the norm.
Let's cool it with the death wishes, all right? I mean, yes there's a slight difference between "I hope he gets murdered on the way home" and "I hope he dies of old age, in his bed, surrounded by his loved ones," but let's just...not.
And in no way the main theme of the franchise will ever change, it's part of the franchise. There's 0 chance of it happening even if someday he's not part of the franchise anymore.
But TL;DR It's not simple in any way for different motives.
we should separate art from the artist
Before I picked up DQVIII on 3DS, I was thinking, how bad could the MIDI be? I even listened to the difference on youtube and didn't really mind (maybe I wasn't even listening carefully). But once I started the game and head the music through earphones, I was definitely disappointed. If I was playing on the gameboy, maybe not so much, but the MIDI music definitely feels like it doesn't suit it at all.
And are they really going through with DQXI on the PS4 with MIDI music. That's just straight up laughable. At least there's a chance there'll be a workaround with the PC version, but with denuvo who knows. Will definitely sit it out until a solution is clear.
As for Sugiyama, don't know the guy, but will definitely wait for a deep sale on DQXI. You gotta vote with your wallet these days.
Everyone is wishing death on this guy and I'm just sitting here hoping he goes into retirement and quietly removes himself from society.
but it shouldn't always be expected or encouraged
As much as I absolutely dislike the man, I need to separate him from his work. He does compose beautiful music.
He tried to take out an ad in New York Times and Washington Post about how China spreads lies about Rape of Nanking and comfort women because they're jealous of Japan and want to take it down and both newspapers denied him until he admitted the Rape of Nanking happened. His reply was to up the bid.
"Separate the art from the artist" isn't high-minded neutrality, it's "I don't care and it bothers me that you do so stop."
can anyone suggest a good lgbtq organization in japan that takes donations so i can tell sugiyama to shove it up his old ass
a big whiny thing complaining about how it was impossible to admit it happened because it didn't happen.
The papers never ran it. Sugiyama never stopped believing it.
I love Dragon Quests music and it just hurts to hear how terrible this guy is.
On one hand, you have this old man with hate and prejudice against people, on the other you have people saying that he should die.
I dont belong in this world anymore.
Even in old age, dude still manages to surprise me.
Sugiyama really is the Federer of bigotry.
Ah okay, I understand now. I'm glad in the end this stuff never ran in the papers. I'm kind of surprised at how determined he was to try and run these ads though.
Fuck this piece of shit. I had wanted to play the new DQ, but I don't think I'll be able to do so in good conscience now. I know I'd be thinking about this disgusting waste of life whenever I hear the music.
Don't really care about Morrissey being a cunt, I still like his music fine.
But, wow. I should find a dude and fuck to the Dragon Quest main theme in the background, then hack into his computer and bomb all his personal social with the video attached.
/s... though it's a nice thought anyways
I will now pirate all DQ games because I have selective principles.
sugiyamas an irredeemable garbage person and i hope this gains enough traction to finally see him no longer stain dq with is awful music
Guess they're the same"
As someone who is looking forward to the game so much... This is hard to hear especially since I'm gay. Not sure what to do now tbh.
Spreading hatred and lies is not a good career choice.
Luckily, he's got his music gig to fall back on.