They said that the Switch version would have exclusive content - could have waited for that version and then compare the offerings.
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Dragon Quest XI Definitive Edition exclusive features makes me disappointed!
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Isn't it just as likely Square Enix wanted to offer further incentive for double dippers and those buying a full price game that released much later than other versions? I don't know why it's so obvious to people a platform holder is mandating this stuff, when it'd be kind of dumb for the publisher to not create a more appealing product despite releasing later, or having been purchased once already.
Of course there's plenty of years of Nintendo ports that didn't get exclusive content so maybe not.
That's interesting. Can you provide a link where they say that before Western release.
Like Persona5 R ? This is a completely different issue and it doesn't seem to the main problem for OP.
You guys do understand the port begging rule was made because it derailed threads, right? You arent derailing a port begging thread by port begging.
They went above and beyond with what was added....no way SE does this without incentives from Nintendo. Hero was in Smash, the game got a massive ass demo on Switch and they added tons of QoL and content to the game. That's not their usual approach - they needed like 4 years to fix the FF7 sound bug and OG PS4 DQ11 was never updated with the western versions QoL enhancements.
Care to give an example of a situation like this?
edit: This seems more to be par for the course with Japanese developers pulling this shit and not adding options to purchase add ons for ports. Square did this with Star Ocean 4 where Xbox owners never got the international version add ons. Also more recently with FF12 getting new stuff and the ps4 version being left in the dust. Eternal Sonata had extra content on ps4 that was also never available for Xbox owners and Capcom just releasing new stuff for DMC 3. I know they want to make their game attractive to new buyers but it's annoying as fuck for owners of the games already to get the shaft. Especially with gamers "fuck you I got mine" attitude towards people frustrated that this shit keeps happening.
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This is going to come off bad and I apologize, but nobody is entitled to have all the content. You can make smart buying decisions, but again you're not entitled to anything but the game you bought. Not anything that comes after and wasnt promised for it.
Pretty sure Destiny and Crash Team Racing had / have exclusive content, despite being simultaneously multiplatform releases. There are others out there as well that I don't quite remember off of the top of my head
Destiny2 had exclusive content, cod had that exclusive mode .. just google it if you are really interested.
That's not even talking about the exclusive launch / preorder deals they get all the time.
Equally shitty but not the same sort of situation I was looking for.
Those were timed and not feature related. Can't think of anything comparable this gen.
Well, I suppose they said that, but it is not in product description, and I didn't find this info when I did some research before buying it. I am not really sure they said that when they released the Asian version, which is the version I bought. Regardless, I certainly hope they can make this information more known in the future, though I doubt so.
Yes, the same issue with P5R.
from june 2018
Its only portbegging if you ask for a switch version.
Asking for other consoles than switch is a completely different thing.
Is that really so hard to understand ?
Asking for other consoles than switch is a completely different thing.
Is that really so hard to understand ?
Well this exact same situation isn't something that happens often, considering most games are released simultaneously
Most other games also don't come out over a year or two later than the original release that requires them to justify charging full price for a game that's much cheaper elsewhere so I'd argue having timed exclusive content for simultaneous releases is honestly worse as there's no good reason for that
I'd imagine that would be more of a straight port, considering how much more ambitious the game is and it's split up into several parts anyhow over several years
I'm kinda expecting this but on PS5/XBS instead. It bombed so hard on PC I'm not sure they'll bother.
Making the orchestral tracks exclusive was scummy as hell, no doubts about it.
I can excuse the rest (even if I don't like it), but the music? Come on.
I can excuse the rest (even if I don't like it), but the music? Come on.
I mean yeah, it sucks that the objectively weakest system got the best version of the game, because I'd love to play through it in all its glory on PC, but it was also a really good time on Switch and easily one of my top games for the system, so I ain't too mad. That, and a lot of the added features aren't really that exciting. A whole separate version of the game in 2D was a cool thought, but it's pretty well missing a lot of the charm the "real" version has.
Ff12 on the switch/XBO had some enhancements with basically being able to respec and I think one other feature(cant remember) but that respec was good enough of a feature that it should be updated on ps4/pc
I have a switch myself, but some of the switch people on this site are actually unbelievably obnoxious. Get the fuck out of this thread criticizing shitty exclusivity practices and stop making it about your stupid ass console warz bullshit, port begging has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the topic at all. Get a grip.
My misgivings with square's shitty as handling isn't limited to the switch additions but I'll also have to content with additions made to the English release and that's the same goddamn console.
My misgivings with square's shitty as handling isn't limited to the switch additions but I'll also have to content with additions made to the English release and that's the same goddamn console.
Yeah that is my only real problem, I never expected the 2D stuff to go to anything else and that is fine, even the added quests are a big whatever, but actual QoL features should have been patched in. In the end Square has done it with multiple games this gen, and has just helped me decide to wait until I can get the PS4 version of their games for cheap, cause I'm not playing 3rd party games on my Switch or buying Square games at full price anymore.
I don't recall being informed when I both DQ11 at launch to support the series.
it was revealed in june 2018 (a few months before the WW release of the game on ps4/pc) that the switch version will have extra content.
Since it hasn't been posted yet, here's a full list of the changes. Range from "anecdotal" to "OH GOD WHY DIDN'T I HAVE THIS" : https://www.thegamer.com/everything-new-dragon-quest-xi-s-definitive-edition/
Just don't read it if you're currently playing a non-Switch version, it can be quite disgusting to see what you miss.
Some excerpts :
- Fun-Size Forge Can Be Used Everywhere
- Orchestrated OST (!!!) + DQVIII OST
- Photo mode (I'd have used the shit out of this , game's gorgeous)
- Party members are now viewable in the overworld (+)
- Cutscenes are immediately skippable (definitely would have shaved a few hours of playthrough, sometimes quitting and reseting game was faster than waiting for everyone to be killed)
- Summon horse from wherever (useful)
- Running over monsterd with mounts grants more XP (+)
- Some real good new rideable monsters
And the worst offender of all in my opinion :
- Battle Speed Selector - this is modern RPG 101 Square, you even offer that on most new titles and remasters !
And I omitted some more spoilery ones, check the list.
Just don't read it if you're currently playing a non-Switch version, it can be quite disgusting to see what you miss.
Some excerpts :
- Fun-Size Forge Can Be Used Everywhere
- Orchestrated OST (!!!) + DQVIII OST
- Photo mode (I'd have used the shit out of this , game's gorgeous)
- Party members are now viewable in the overworld (+)
- Cutscenes are immediately skippable (definitely would have shaved a few hours of playthrough, sometimes quitting and reseting game was faster than waiting for everyone to be killed)
- Summon horse from wherever (useful)
- Running over monsterd with mounts grants more XP (+)
- Some real good new rideable monsters
And the worst offender of all in my opinion :
- Battle Speed Selector - this is modern RPG 101 Square, you even offer that on most new titles and remasters !
And I omitted some more spoilery ones, check the list.
those are mostly the QoL changes and improvements, the major additions are:
- 2D mode, play the whole game like an SNES RPG
- revisiting worlds from the past 10 dragon quest games for special quests
- new story to bridge the gap between act 1 and 2, playing as each of the party members in their own adventure
- japanese voice acting
Yes I was mostly concentrating on what could constitute an "easy" patch for every other platform, mainly QoL features except the OST one.
I still can't accept the basic OST, had to find a workaround after 30 min.
I recently went the opposite direction. Played the demo on Switch and it looked ok in handheld mode but really bad blown up to 55", so I got it for the Pro.
It is sad, isn't? They can just buy the Switch version or just do nothing and stay mad.
No but it has a hidden targets mode for the crossbow that was removed in the Switch port. It kinda sucked though so it's for the better really.
Huh I could have sworn I read somewhere about photo mode being something Square Enix added for the initial western release
Weird, wonder why I thought that
Complaints about the Switch-exclusive features in DQXI or the "censorship" in Tokyo Mirage Sessions, what resurfaces on ERA more often?
It's really more like going from PS2 to PSP. Still the same basic thing but a little reduced around the edges.
SNES to GB is more like the PS4 and 3DS versions. A whole different game essentially.
The funny thing about the SNES->GB thing is that that's exactly what happened to Dragon Quest III
There isn't a single version of DQIII that exists that has all the content from the SNES remake and GBC remake. Newer versions don't even have all the content from the SNES remake!
There isn't a single version of DQIII that exists that has all the content from the SNES remake and GBC remake. Newer versions don't even have all the content from the SNES remake!