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Dragon Quest XI orchestral music pc mod?
- Thread starter hlhbk
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If you just started playing then that's probably why.
To me the biggest offense is how often tracks are reused. You hear the same overworld theme and the same town theme all the damn time. Which when combined with the fact those tracks are kind of mediocre anyway, you just get sick of them.
I was going to say the same thing, but I think he's talking about the 3DS version, which I believe preta said was possible and easy, but it's just a matter of waiting for a translation.
Oh yeah you're right, skipped over the translation part!
sorry, my bad
Holy shit, is it already happening so soon? When can we expect the full mod to be released? Before the end of the year?
Also, where are the places where one could buy the orchestrated Dragon Quest soundtracks? Are there multiple venues, or is only one available? Can they be bought digitally, in flac, DRM-free? Thanks
Also, where are the places where one could buy the orchestrated Dragon Quest soundtracks? Are there multiple venues, or is only one available? Can they be bought digitally, in flac, DRM-free? Thanks
I can't really say I recommend sliding money directly in the pocket of a homophobic war crime denier, I'm sure the mod itself will come with the music already. To answer your question, I believe the only method there is, is to buy the actual CDs.
You are impressed at their speed, but also think they might need 3 months to finish it?
If I follow what preta said, then it could be a matter of days. Maybe longer to make a nice README, and maybe built a tool that automates part of this.
Somebody really needs to explain to that fossil Sugiyama how the internet and PC mods work. Not only will we get to play the game with orchestral music anyway, he won't earn a fucking cent from this. What a dumbass.
You know, I don't like Sugiyama as much as the next person but that's the problem with the way life works. There were tons and tons of people who worked on the music. You're not just giving him money by buying a cd, you're also rewarding all the people who I'm sure worked really hard on it.
Personally I feel that the actual compositions are nice enough, although I don't think they are that great. That said the midi versions are quite awful and they sound bad, maybe not all of them but the more prominent ones, like the overworld and the battle theme.
Think I'm going to turn off auto-updating for DQXI. I'm not expecting patches anyway (and the game doesn't seem like it needs them) and I wouldn't put it past SE to try to patch this back out of the game. Though they may be as tired of Sugiyama's crap as everyone else and might just shrug their shoulders and say "hey, we tried. "
As for the compositions themselves, I think they are on the weaker side for the series but I find the melodies creeping into my head when not playing so there it's not all bad.
As for the compositions themselves, I think they are on the weaker side for the series but I find the melodies creeping into my head when not playing so there it's not all bad.
Yeah and if I was the kind of person who would want to see his concerts live I'd probably not go after the way he's treated the game.
Is that the case though? You don't spend nearly as much time in the overworld of other 2d games and I just played through IV recently and it had changing overworld tunes. I also think you spend less time in areas in the old games, as being 2d means towns are never quite that huge and you get through them quickly.
Preta and Co., thanks for working on this. I'm 35 hours in the game and don't mind much the MIDI music. However, the intro with the Tokyo Metropolitan Symphony Orchestra is just really good. This game will definitely benefit greatly with the orchestrated soundtrack. I'm really looking forward to the mod release.
Sugiyama straight up thinks foreigners aren't worthy of his music. Apparently he freaked out when Square put his orchestral tracks in the western release of DQVIII. Dude is a total loon.
Compare this with Nobuo Uematsu who appreciates his fans no matter where they come from. He even travelled to my home city of Adelaide (which is an obscure backwater) to attend the Distant Worlds symphony.
I was having similar feelings and would recommend turning the volume of it down to 3 to 5, it hides the quality a little and lowers the grating loud repetitive noises.
Like it super sucks because its a fun game otherwise. I really like the look of it especially the enemy models some of them are so well animated and fun to look at.
Wait, is this true? Is the reason the music sounds not great is that he doesn't want us to hear it orchestrated?
It's weird. The Japanese version of the game has the same OST as the western release. However, Sugiyama also did a fully orchestrated version of the soundtrack to be sold separately as a CD and also in concerts. He won't license the orchestral versions of his music outside of Japan though. The only person who really knows why is Sugiyama himself.
I'm not sure why they were able to make an exception with DQVIII but I heard he was pissed when he found out the western version had the orchestral tracks.
I'm mostly just pissed about the game having a weaker version of the soundtrack for no good reason at all. Ultimately Suigyama owns the rights to the music so he gets to choose. I just don't understand why he wants to screw over fans of the series. Surely he's actually losing money here by not licensing the music. It's bizarre to see an artist hold back their work like that.
(Keep in mind that Sugiyama is in his late 80's and is an outspoken war crimes denier, xenophobic and a homophobe. His political views might have something to do with why he doesn't license his music outside of Japan. I'm just speculating though.)
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I thought with VII and VIII on 3DS it was simply a matter of Nintendo, who published the games, not WANTING to pay the licensing fees. I noticed with games AFTER DQVIII on PS2 we started to see the Sogiyama Kobo trademark on DQ title screens which makes me think there was some kind of loophole at the time that pissed Sugiyama off that he probably had to clamp down. Even if there is some kind of "unworthy foreigner" mentality, he's still scummy for making the music in the original Japanese release so low quality for the sake of concert sales. I could've SWORN I read something with him saying that "Video games should NOT have Orchestra quality music in them" but that doesn't explain remakes with orchestra soundtracks.
I don't think we'll ever properly know until he's gone.
How do you get these working? Does the 3DS have to be modded with homebrew or something?
There is a 3DS homebrew launcher, which you get to install via various exploits (I'm not sure which ones are still active, used to be you could just do it via the 3DS Browser at a certain firmware ).
That one has a tool that allows you to patch games too, I think.
If someone has up-to-date instructions on how to do this, please PM me.
if you google 3ds homebrew its the second link, very easy walk through as the 3ds is a completely or nearly completely hacked system. Ends with .guide for further hints.
There are pre-patched versions floating around out there, also. I have the physical release of both 7 and 8, and for that matter I think three copies of 7 and 2 of 8 (wife bought 7 for her and she inadvertently got an extra copy) . But the modded version is sooo much better, and running with the New3ds CPU speed override fixes some of the menu lag present in the DQ7 NA port as a bonus.
The orchestrated versions are really the only thing I have been using my modded 3ds for, since I've been doing NES and SNES on the Analogue NT/Super NT and everything else on my Retropie.
It's fairly low maintenance these days, but once in a while you have to update the CFW loader or whatever.
There's an era 3ds cfw / Homebrew thread but it is pretty quiet.
I have a physical copy of the game and an ongoing save, so whatever is easiest to get the music working on that.
Or if it's easier, take my save to a digitally backed up version saved on my SD card.
Gaaah, I'm so excited! Between this, the HDR mod, and the ini tweaks I feel so happy for switching to PC gaming 2 months ago. I really hate that the community often has to "fix" games, but so thankful that talented people do.
Once it's ready how will we go about patching it into our own games? will there be a tool or just downloading the entire data.pak file?
It really is hard to go back to console gaming when you are comfortable modding your games. Thats the main reason I bought DQ11 for PC instead of PS4; I knew there would be a music mod eventually. I'm really trying to limit my play so when it gets released I won't be too far into it.
The concerts are only in Japan so it's not like there's an option.
Like he cares about it, he cares about the people buying the special editions which is the DQ product that is available for the west and what he'll get from here. The rest is sold in Japan and well, you can have an idea on how it sells.
There's a orchestrated version of the music on the special edition so this thing isn't true. Except for the part where you say what type of person he is and Sakaguchi stuff, all the rest is complete speculation without any basis.
I don't think we'll ever know at all. For three reasons: Sugiyama is respected in Japan and very famous, no one would say internal things like that and no journal would have motive to ask about this either in Japan because of the first motive.
Apologies. I didn't realise the Special Edition released in the west. That's good news. So he's willing to license music for the west, as part of the SE, it just comes in a CD and is not included in the game itself. I still don't fully understand the logic behind this but at least it shows he's willing to release his music outside of Japan.
I'd still like to know why they didn't include the proper soundtrack in the game itself though. Plenty of companies do Special Editions where they give you a copy of the OST but they usually reflect the music from the actual game. If Sugiyama is holding the music back as a way to strongarm people into getting the SE or going to his concerts, he's still shitting on fans regardless.
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