Best Song of the beef?

  • Like That

    Votes: 19 2.3%
  • Push Ups

    Votes: 6 0.7%
  • Euphoria

    Votes: 259 31.1%
  • Family Matters

    Votes: 27 3.2%
  • Meet The Grahams

    Votes: 152 18.2%
  • Not Like Us

    Votes: 354 42.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 16 1.9%

  • Total voters
    833

wisdom0wl

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
8,137
I think it's real but not mixed and probably a first pass

also

Adidon made Aubrey be a loving father, please respect my GOAT
 

Real

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,546
(Grammy-winning) The Heist is not a great album, so the nominations really don't mean much to me.

It's totally okay for you to say you don't like his solo output, but saying that his solo stuff isn't great when a jury of hundreds of his music peers think otherwise isn't quite fair.


it wasn't lol
It was literally TMZ level sensationalism "oooh, you have a son". Ok?

"you're a bad dad just like your father" Based on what? Him not wanting to reveal his kid to the media(the smartest thing he could do)?

"Your producer is sick?" Woooow

It is literally a shit diss, and I'll keep saying it forever, internet rap fans chase narratives all the time so I'm not surprised people love it, but Duppy Freestyle was so much better than anything Pusha said. And it was an actual song on an original beat.

Massive oversimplification of the diss - I'd recommend you relisten to it.

Pusha T wasn't hitting him with "you're a bad dad just like your father" out of nowhere - it was the fact that Drake mentioned Pusha T's fiance and made fun of the institution of marriage. Pusha T psychoanalyze Drake's disdain for marriage as a byproduct of the broken home he was raised in. "Marriage is something that your mother had - why are you disparaging mine?" is the read there. The entire song is a full-circle analysis of Drake's life and the hypocrisy that it inherently has. With a rapper like Drake, it was *always* going to come down to the fact that the anger he has of women comes from the fact that his situation was in complete disarray. Him mentioning Pusha T's relatively normal healthy relationship with Virginia Williams doesn't make sense when Drake originally wanted to force Sophie to terminate her pregnancy because he thought she was looking for a payday.

If you're going to take the lyrics out of context, it'll appear as if you don't really want to give the song credit (which it deservedly does). That online narrative you're talking about didn't appear out of thin air.
 

mojo

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,993
sorry but the cover art for adidon won the beef before the track even came on
 

RailWays

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
15,935
Duppy freestyle is really overlooked and I agree it's a good track (the beat is gorgeous) but equally overlooked is the rest of the shit Push said in Story of Adidon.

All people talk about is the stuff about his son when it's a piece by piece surgical dissection of his character. Every line is a hit.
100%
 

Woozies

Member
Nov 1, 2017
19,143
I mean Drake had the better diss song in that beef.

Adidon was not a good diss.

And given how their careers went after the beef, I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
arthur-buster-baxter.gif
 

Grzi

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,789
It's totally okay for you to say you don't like his solo output, but saying that his solo stuff isn't great when a jury of hundreds of his music peers think otherwise isn't quite fair.

Massive oversimplification of the diss - I'd recommend you relisten to it.

Pusha T wasn't hitting him with "you're a bad dad just like your father" out of nowhere - it was the fact that Drake mentioned Pusha T's fiance and made fun of the institution of marriage. Pusha T psychoanalyze Drake's disdain for marriage as a byproduct of the broken home he was raised in. "Marriage is something that your mother had - why are you disparaging mine?" is the read there. The entire song is a full-circle analysis of Drake's life and the hypocrisy that it inherently has. With a rapper like Drake, it was *always* going to come down to the fact that the anger he has of women comes from the fact that his situation was in complete disarray. Him mentioning Pusha T's relatively normal healthy relationship with Virginia Williams doesn't make sense when Drake originally wanted to force Sophie to terminate her pregnancy because he thought she was looking for a payday.

If you're going to take the lyrics out of context, it'll appear as if you don't really want to give the song credit (which it deservedly does). That online narrative you're talking about didn't appear out of thin air.

I mean, I'm talking from my perspective, of course it's subjective. Unfortunately, I've been on this forum for a long time and I've given up on expecting ANYONE here to be able to think for themselves, because I've seen people outright say they can't too many times, obsessed with online narratives, reviews and other people's opinions.
Again, sorry if anyone is offended but it is what it is.
Case in point, you mentioning the jury of music peers like I (or anyone else above the age of 15 with a developed taste, likes and dislikes) should give a fuck about anyone of them.

The second part of your post reads like something from rapgenius. Drake didn't make fun of the institution of marriage LMAO. Drake is a goofball whose entire personality is wanting love, why would he do that. He mentioned Pusha's fiance to make himself seem threatening, it's super simple, and extremely corny, but it's Drake, you expect that stuff from him, and if you don't find it amusing you're taking all of this way too seriously.

Considering that both Daytona and It's Almost Dry had good sales and critical reception, I simply say that statement you are making is a subjective opinion on Pusha's output since Clipse.

Yeah, as I said in the first part of my post, this forum is obsessed with reviews, aggregate scores, too many times I've seen people here literally say they were interested in a game/movie, but after the reviews they gave up on it. I'm not even sure what to say anymore, but I definitely think someone should try to balance out the Pusha stannery and the unwarranted Drake hate, and if it has to be me, sure.
 

TheBaldwin

Member
Feb 25, 2018
8,360
I mean Drake had the better diss song in that beef.

Adidon was not a good diss.

And given how their careers went after the beef, I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
Oh come on. I enjoyed Duppy when it came out, it's a good diss with a good flow and a great beat, but the bits that Pusha hits on with story of adidon are MILES better. Pusha dissects Drake as a person, rapper, his friends and family, his hidden son, and his pornstar girlfriend all in the manner of minutes.

Duppy freestyle covers what, the fact that he helped Kanye write songs and that pusha wasn't that big of a drug dealer back in the day?

And for clarity I think Drake is a great rapper, and deserves to be in conversation for top 20 rap artists of all time and I listen to his music more regularly then Pushas, but as a diss pusha's was way more impressive
 

supernormal

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
3,206
This thread had me going back to Duppy Freestyle and Story of Adidon thinking I was crazy or I missed something. Nope. Duppy was nice, but Adidon is just evil. For the purposes of what a diss should be, Adidon was the better record.
 

Trup1aya

Literally a train safety expert
Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,643
Damn, this battle bout to be mid af huh? If this is the type of shit Kendrick and Drake gonna put out, I'm disappointed. Hopefully Kendrick got some heat in the chamber. Shame Cole apologized, maybe Kendrick will say some shit that ropes him back in.

This thread is bonkers to me.

Few Pages back, people comparing Future to Cole… as if Future is up there in the pantheon. I just heard Red Leather and Cole handily outshines him with a throwaway verse. I literally couldn't wait until Future's performance was over. There's no comparison.

Story of Adidon buried Drake. Duppy freestyle doesn't compare.
 
Last edited:

Funkelpop

Member
Sep 2, 2022
5,485
Someone could have wrote that song and used an AI Drake voice. Hence why it sounds a little authentic. If it's real, then maybe Drake is feeling it out.

Also 7 minute Drill is still on streaming. Atleast it is on my Apple Music. 🤔
 

The Silver

Member
Oct 28, 2017
10,785
None of these disses are impressive, from Kendrick's first shot to Drake.

I'm not learning anything new, it's not particularly mean or vicious, it's just low hanging fruit jokes, feel like disses out of obligation rather than actual animosity or drive.

Meg and Nicki had more heat for each other than whatever is going on here.
 

Woozies

Member
Nov 1, 2017
19,143
I hope that track aint real.

Using 4 minutes to tell us kendrick short and got a bad record deal...


Waste of fucking time
 

supernormal

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
3,206

EzekelRAGE

Member
Nov 3, 2017
16,400
So team real wins.

The only line that bothers me is the "I ain't even rappin' after this, I'm way too busy".
I hope he aint trying to bow out now.
 

EzekelRAGE

Member
Nov 3, 2017
16,400
Damn, Drake even sent shots at Ja Morant in this lmao

Apparently Ja posted Metro's albums.

"Ayy, shout out to the hooper that be bustin' out the gritty
I know why you mad, nikka, I ain't even trippin'"

Going by another forum, twitter saying Ja and Drake beefin over a chick too.

He went at several ppl in this. Ross, Future, Kendrick, Metro, Ja, Weeknd. Idk what some of yall expected. This is a very decent track for a diss against multiple ppl. Im sure some wanted more venom for Kdot, but maybe kdot shouldve did some shit by himself instead of cliquing up with others to diss Drake. That gave Drake room to handle stuff the way he doing currently.

From the way Mal was talkin, Drake got more than one diss and this may be more bait for Kendrick to drop his nuke.
Anti Drake gang droppped all their stuff. Drake has responded (whenever this releases)
Ball in Kendrick court after this.
 

Famicom

Member
Oct 25, 2017
711
Drake gotta serve up Rocky next, he was talking the most foul out of anyone (deserved though).
 

cw_sasuke

Member
Oct 27, 2017
26,714
Dope response track, not too much but not too little either considering what they have thrown at him so far this seems like the right level approach.
Seems to be mostly factual stuff either without having to resort to under the belt tmz crazyness.

Lets see how it evolves. I assume its gonna be 1v1 from now on once Kdot replies.

Drake gotta serve up Rocky next, he was talking the most foul out of anyone (deserved though).

Rocky fall off ages ago, he might get some subs in the future but Drake aint dissing any of these guys in a full track outside of kdot.
 

goldenboy

Member
Mar 8, 2023
514
If you need an emergency press conference and acknowledge your child after a diss track, I would say that was a damn fine diss track.
 

Yeeeeeeeeeer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
936
west coast
Damn, Drake even sent shots at Ja Morant in this lmao

Apparently Ja posted Metro's albums.

"Ayy, shout out to the hooper that be bustin' out the gritty
I know why you mad, nikka, I ain't even trippin'"

Going by another forum, twitter saying Ja and Drake beefin over a chick too.

He went at several ppl in this. Ross, Future, Kendrick, Metro, Ja, Weeknd. Idk what some of yall expected. This is a very decent track for a diss against multiple ppl. Im sure some wanted more venom for Kdot, but maybe kdot shouldve did some shit by himself instead of cliquing up with others to diss Drake. That gave Drake room to handle stuff the way he doing currently.

From the way Mal was talkin, Drake got more than one diss and this may be more bait for Kendrick to drop his nuke.
Anti Drake gang droppped all their stuff. Drake has responded (whenever this releases)
Ball in Kendrick court after this.
drake linked up w cole first and used him as a meat shield
 

flonty

Member
Oct 27, 2017
133
Drake's diss is better than 7 minute drill tho.
Cole had nothing on Kendrick and really chose to throw shade on Kendricks catalog.
 

cw_sasuke

Member
Oct 27, 2017
26,714
If you need an emergency press conference and acknowledge your child after a diss track, I would say that was a damn fine diss track.
Its been 6 years, yall still on that beef ? lol
drake linked up w cole first and used him as a meat shield
They been friends and close pretty much ever since they came into the game.
Weird way to rewrite history, but i guess thats the thing to do know on the net if you dont feel a certain outcome.
 

Dabanton

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,990
Drake really is the rap Thanos to some of these guys.

The difference is this time. His taking no chances it seems.

The research is sickening.
 

Japanmanx3

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,006
Atlanta, GA
Twas a light pack. More enthusiasm than Cole thankfully, but still mid overall. He better have the extra clips loaded, because that 'I'm to busy too reply later' bar ain't gonna work.
 

cw_sasuke

Member
Oct 27, 2017
26,714
Twas a light pack. More enthusiasm than Cole thankfully, but still mid overall. He better have the extra clips loaded, because that 'I'm to busy too reply later' bar ain't gonna work.
Its not like he received Either or No Vaseline, no reason to hit any harder atp.
Good to see him even adress most of the dudes on a solid track - its only gonna be him vs. Kendrick going forward, the other ones arent relevant.

can't really say much to rocky ol boy got Rihanna in the end plus has history with drakes bm
Thats not how this works. Plenty of stuff he could say about Rocky, but doubt he cares that much.
 

EzekelRAGE

Member
Nov 3, 2017
16,400
Its been 6 years, yall still on that beef ? lol

They been friends and close pretty much ever since they came into the game.
Weird way to rewrite history, but i guess thats the thing to do know on the net if you dont feel a certain outcome.
Because it's this lol

View: https://twitter.com/therealsjc_/status/1779201516487770345
drake linked up w cole first and used him as a meat shield
Drake didnt link up with Cole to diss. Like that was a Future and Metro only song. Future had a 3rd verse on there and replaced it with Kendrick shit.
Also Drake doesnt need to use Cole as a meat shield. Future/Kendrick/Metro the only ones who using meat shields. Hell this whole album roll out is framed around diss Drake. Like I said earlier, that speaks to how much they need Drake.

Kendrick's biggest shots at drake come from hopping on other ppl's songs. First Control, now Like That. For someone who has been trying to go at Drake for years he seems scared as hell to get shit poppin on his own.
 

Zebesian-X

Member
Dec 3, 2018
20,524
Can't listen atm but I'm glad to hear we've got a proper response. Kendrick's Like That verse felt like an invitation more than anything, the heat is gonna turn up now that Drake's responded
I mean Drake had the better diss song in that beef.

Adidon was not a good diss.

And given how their careers went after the beef, I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
Aren't you the OVO rep that got threadmarked in the last beef thread

Edit: Ah.
It's incredible to me how people still claim Push won this beef. Lmao
Dude didn't say shit. He exposed Drake for having a son? Said he's a deadbeat dad when he wasn't? That's it?

Duppy Freestyle is the best diss out of that entire beef, because Drake really hit Push where it hurts, his rapping, his career, his rhymes, and the lifestyle he flaunts.

It's flabbergasting how people fail to see this, and the only reason I can think of is that people see Push as the savior of "real hip hop" and a "true emcee" so he has to win by default. Otherwise, their entire perception of rap music crumbles. Bunch of dustheads lmao.

And I am one of the biggest Clipse fans ever, but Push just seems corny here. You know he did it for publicity and that's it. Don't paint him as some real rap crusader who's out to save real lyricism. What's funny is that he embraced this persona fully because he realizes this is the only type of crowd he can draw nowadays.
Take his verse on the Pop Smoke album for example "Tyler got the album of the year, for now" LMAO, like he's the one who decides this, the paragon of rapping, "I'ma give it to you Tyler, FOR NOW, but wait until I finish another mediocre album". Dude became the #1 cornball and the fact people fail to recognize this because they grasp onto an obsolete idea of what hip hop should be is mindboggling.

First he needs to drop a solo project that isn't mediocre, there's a reason no one talked about Daytona once the whole Wyoming sessions hype died. Push is the best when he's a part of the group, he doesn't have it in him to carry an entire solo project, and that's it. The only time people talked about him was during the Drake beef, he's super irrelevant otherwise, unlike when he was a part of Clipse.
 
Oct 29, 2017
12,960
I'm starting to get tired of all this negativity to three artists I like. This year has sucked for Black pop culture. This beef makes it worse as most hip hop fans and their tastemakers aren't Black. First, we had Katt Williams, then Nicki Minaj, Kendrick, J Cole and now Drake doing this BS.
 

Gorillaz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,716
Its not like he received Either or No Vaseline, no reason to hit any harder atp.
Good to see him even adress most of the dudes on a solid track - its only gonna be him vs. Kendrick going forward, the other ones arent relevant.


Thats not how this works. Plenty of stuff he could say about Rocky, but doubt he cares that much.
I know how this works but Rocky will always have better counters but I don't think rocky is a priority nowadays anyway either
 

Real

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,546
I'm starting to get tired of all this negativity to three artists I like. This year has sucked for Black pop culture. This beef makes it worse as most hip hop fans and their tastemakers aren't Black. First, we had Katt Williams, then Nicki Minaj, Kendrick, J Cole and now Drake doing this BS.

Hip hop has always had a competitive element, and pop culture has always tended to have a high amount of visibility for the gossip and beef stuff. This isn't a new phenomenon nor is this really a figment of just black culture. There's been a lot of positive news in hip-hop - but yeah, that's not going to drive views, clicks, and reactions like stuff like this.

I don't think it's anything to be overtly concerned about, honestly.
 

cw_sasuke

Member
Oct 27, 2017
26,714
I'm starting to get tired of all this negativity to three artists I like. This year has sucked for Black pop culture. This beef makes it worse as most hip hop fans and their tastemakers aren't Black. First, we had Katt Williams, then Nicki Minaj, Kendrick, J Cole and now Drake doing this BS.
Beef is okay as long they dont go crazy with the personal stuff. As of now its still entertaining and all of them can somewhat benefit from it, once they start involving family member and crazy accusations ill probably be done with it as well, because its gonna spill to some street shit.
I know how this works but Rocky will always have better counters but I don't think rocky is a priority nowadays anyway either
Dont know about that Rocky delivery and even that bar on WSDTY was weak. Even if he wanted i dont think he could make a good diss record in 2024, he isnt that type of artist lol.
 

Japanmanx3

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,006
Atlanta, GA
Hip Hop is sport. This the most positive (no real life drama) styled beef in a while. Like no street stuff should be happening no matter how tough these niggas talk. Nikki and Katt went in on the mess mess. It's different. This is like our version of the Final 4 lol. One team dropped out already. The other just said he takes up 2 slots, and Kendrick is the team to beat.

Whatever happens, Big Sean lost lol.

I need a K.dot only response for the one time and then its time for nuclear tag team combos.
 

pink

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
6,265
It's totally okay for you to say you don't like his solo output, but saying that his solo stuff isn't great when a jury of hundreds of his music peers think otherwise isn't quite fair.




Massive oversimplification of the diss - I'd recommend you relisten to it.

Pusha T wasn't hitting him with "you're a bad dad just like your father" out of nowhere - it was the fact that Drake mentioned Pusha T's fiance and made fun of the institution of marriage. Pusha T psychoanalyze Drake's disdain for marriage as a byproduct of the broken home he was raised in. "Marriage is something that your mother had - why are you disparaging mine?" is the read there. The entire song is a full-circle analysis of Drake's life and the hypocrisy that it inherently has. With a rapper like Drake, it was *always* going to come down to the fact that the anger he has of women comes from the fact that his situation was in complete disarray. Him mentioning Pusha T's relatively normal healthy relationship with Virginia Williams doesn't make sense when Drake originally wanted to force Sophie to terminate her pregnancy because he thought she was looking for a payday.

If you're going to take the lyrics out of context, it'll appear as if you don't really want to give the song credit (which it deservedly does). That online narrative you're talking about didn't appear out of thin air.

King push 🐐