(Grammy-winning) The Heist is not a great album, so the nominations really don't mean much to me.
it wasn't lol
It was literally TMZ level sensationalism "oooh, you have a son". Ok?
"you're a bad dad just like your father" Based on what? Him not wanting to reveal his kid to the media(the smartest thing he could do)?
"Your producer is sick?" Woooow
It is literally a shit diss, and I'll keep saying it forever, internet rap fans chase narratives all the time so I'm not surprised people love it, but Duppy Freestyle was so much better than anything Pusha said. And it was an actual song on an original beat.
100%Duppy freestyle is really overlooked and I agree it's a good track (the beat is gorgeous) but equally overlooked is the rest of the shit Push said in Story of Adidon.
All people talk about is the stuff about his son when it's a piece by piece surgical dissection of his character. Every line is a hit.
I mean Drake had the better diss song in that beef.
Adidon was not a good diss.
And given how their careers went after the beef, I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
It's totally okay for you to say you don't like his solo output, but saying that his solo stuff isn't great when a jury of hundreds of his music peers think otherwise isn't quite fair.
Massive oversimplification of the diss - I'd recommend you relisten to it.
Pusha T wasn't hitting him with "you're a bad dad just like your father" out of nowhere - it was the fact that Drake mentioned Pusha T's fiance and made fun of the institution of marriage. Pusha T psychoanalyze Drake's disdain for marriage as a byproduct of the broken home he was raised in. "Marriage is something that your mother had - why are you disparaging mine?" is the read there. The entire song is a full-circle analysis of Drake's life and the hypocrisy that it inherently has. With a rapper like Drake, it was *always* going to come down to the fact that the anger he has of women comes from the fact that his situation was in complete disarray. Him mentioning Pusha T's relatively normal healthy relationship with Virginia Williams doesn't make sense when Drake originally wanted to force Sophie to terminate her pregnancy because he thought she was looking for a payday.
If you're going to take the lyrics out of context, it'll appear as if you don't really want to give the song credit (which it deservedly does). That online narrative you're talking about didn't appear out of thin air.
Considering that both Daytona and It's Almost Dry had good sales and critical reception, I simply say that statement you are making is a subjective opinion on Pusha's output since Clipse.
Oh come on. I enjoyed Duppy when it came out, it's a good diss with a good flow and a great beat, but the bits that Pusha hits on with story of adidon are MILES better. Pusha dissects Drake as a person, rapper, his friends and family, his hidden son, and his pornstar girlfriend all in the manner of minutes.I mean Drake had the better diss song in that beef.
Adidon was not a good diss.
And given how their careers went after the beef, I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
I mean Drake had the better diss song in that beef.
Adidon was not a good diss.
And given how their careers went after the beef, I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
View: https://x.com/kevonstage/status/1001649907063664640?s=46&t=xUPRmYzscBWyw9YxcHppEg
Still a great summary of the Burying of Drake by the OG Pusha T.
Man had more venom for Future than Kendrick lolI hope that track aint real.
Using 4 minutes to tell us kendrick short and got a bad record deal...
Waste of fucking time
View: https://x.com/kevonstage/status/1001649907063664640?s=46&t=xUPRmYzscBWyw9YxcHppEg
Still a great summary of the Burying of Drake by the OG Pusha T.
sorry but the cover art for adidon won the beef before the track even came on
Drake gotta serve up Rocky next, he was talking the most foul out of anyone (deserved though).
drake linked up w cole first and used him as a meat shieldDamn, Drake even sent shots at Ja Morant in this lmao
Apparently Ja posted Metro's albums.
"Ayy, shout out to the hooper that be bustin' out the gritty
I know why you mad, nikka, I ain't even trippin'"
Going by another forum, twitter saying Ja and Drake beefin over a chick too.
He went at several ppl in this. Ross, Future, Kendrick, Metro, Ja, Weeknd. Idk what some of yall expected. This is a very decent track for a diss against multiple ppl. Im sure some wanted more venom for Kdot, but maybe kdot shouldve did some shit by himself instead of cliquing up with others to diss Drake. That gave Drake room to handle stuff the way he doing currently.
From the way Mal was talkin, Drake got more than one diss and this may be more bait for Kendrick to drop his nuke.
Anti Drake gang droppped all their stuff. Drake has responded (whenever this releases)
Ball in Kendrick court after this.
Its been 6 years, yall still on that beef ? lolIf you need an emergency press conference and acknowledge your child after a diss track, I would say that was a damn fine diss track.
They been friends and close pretty much ever since they came into the game.
can't really say much to rocky ol boy got Rihanna in the end plus has history with drakes bmDrake gotta serve up Rocky next, he was talking the most foul out of anyone (deserved though).
Its not like he received Either or No Vaseline, no reason to hit any harder atp.Twas a light pack. More enthusiasm than Cole thankfully, but still mid overall. He better have the extra clips loaded, because that 'I'm to busy too reply later' bar ain't gonna work.
Thats not how this works. Plenty of stuff he could say about Rocky, but doubt he cares that much.can't really say much to rocky ol boy got Rihanna in the end plus has history with drakes bm
Because it's this lolIts been 6 years, yall still on that beef ? lol
They been friends and close pretty much ever since they came into the game.
Weird way to rewrite history, but i guess thats the thing to do know on the net if you dont feel a certain outcome.
Drake didnt link up with Cole to diss. Like that was a Future and Metro only song. Future had a 3rd verse on there and replaced it with Kendrick shit.
Aren't you the OVO rep that got threadmarked in the last beef threadI mean Drake had the better diss song in that beef.
Adidon was not a good diss.
And given how their careers went after the beef, I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
It's incredible to me how people still claim Push won this beef. Lmao
Dude didn't say shit. He exposed Drake for having a son? Said he's a deadbeat dad when he wasn't? That's it?
Duppy Freestyle is the best diss out of that entire beef, because Drake really hit Push where it hurts, his rapping, his career, his rhymes, and the lifestyle he flaunts.
It's flabbergasting how people fail to see this, and the only reason I can think of is that people see Push as the savior of "real hip hop" and a "true emcee" so he has to win by default. Otherwise, their entire perception of rap music crumbles. Bunch of dustheads lmao.
And I am one of the biggest Clipse fans ever, but Push just seems corny here. You know he did it for publicity and that's it. Don't paint him as some real rap crusader who's out to save real lyricism. What's funny is that he embraced this persona fully because he realizes this is the only type of crowd he can draw nowadays.
Take his verse on the Pop Smoke album for example "Tyler got the album of the year, for now" LMAO, like he's the one who decides this, the paragon of rapping, "I'ma give it to you Tyler, FOR NOW, but wait until I finish another mediocre album". Dude became the #1 cornball and the fact people fail to recognize this because they grasp onto an obsolete idea of what hip hop should be is mindboggling.
First he needs to drop a solo project that isn't mediocre, there's a reason no one talked about Daytona once the whole Wyoming sessions hype died. Push is the best when he's a part of the group, he doesn't have it in him to carry an entire solo project, and that's it. The only time people talked about him was during the Drake beef, he's super irrelevant otherwise, unlike when he was a part of Clipse.
I know how this works but Rocky will always have better counters but I don't think rocky is a priority nowadays anyway eitherIts not like he received Either or No Vaseline, no reason to hit any harder atp.
Good to see him even adress most of the dudes on a solid track - its only gonna be him vs. Kendrick going forward, the other ones arent relevant.
Thats not how this works. Plenty of stuff he could say about Rocky, but doubt he cares that much.
I'm starting to get tired of all this negativity to three artists I like. This year has sucked for Black pop culture. This beef makes it worse as most hip hop fans and their tastemakers aren't Black. First, we had Katt Williams, then Nicki Minaj, Kendrick, J Cole and now Drake doing this BS.
Beef is okay as long they dont go crazy with the personal stuff. As of now its still entertaining and all of them can somewhat benefit from it, once they start involving family member and crazy accusations ill probably be done with it as well, because its gonna spill to some street shit.I'm starting to get tired of all this negativity to three artists I like. This year has sucked for Black pop culture. This beef makes it worse as most hip hop fans and their tastemakers aren't Black. First, we had Katt Williams, then Nicki Minaj, Kendrick, J Cole and now Drake doing this BS.
Dont know about that Rocky delivery and even that bar on WSDTY was weak. Even if he wanted i dont think he could make a good diss record in 2024, he isnt that type of artist lol.I know how this works but Rocky will always have better counters but I don't think rocky is a priority nowadays anyway either
It's totally okay for you to say you don't like his solo output, but saying that his solo stuff isn't great when a jury of hundreds of his music peers think otherwise isn't quite fair.
Massive oversimplification of the diss - I'd recommend you relisten to it.
Pusha T wasn't hitting him with "you're a bad dad just like your father" out of nowhere - it was the fact that Drake mentioned Pusha T's fiance and made fun of the institution of marriage. Pusha T psychoanalyze Drake's disdain for marriage as a byproduct of the broken home he was raised in. "Marriage is something that your mother had - why are you disparaging mine?" is the read there. The entire song is a full-circle analysis of Drake's life and the hypocrisy that it inherently has. With a rapper like Drake, it was *always* going to come down to the fact that the anger he has of women comes from the fact that his situation was in complete disarray. Him mentioning Pusha T's relatively normal healthy relationship with Virginia Williams doesn't make sense when Drake originally wanted to force Sophie to terminate her pregnancy because he thought she was looking for a payday.
If you're going to take the lyrics out of context, it'll appear as if you don't really want to give the song credit (which it deservedly does). That online narrative you're talking about didn't appear out of thin air.