Because Ross and Drake are friends and everyone else is waiting for Kendrick to drop his diss. This keeps Drake looking active in this beef.why does this feel like middle school drama, and not the class
I think the why is the business of reaching that level and staying at the top for so long. You gotta feed the machine behind you on some popstar level stuff.
Yea, but if Drake has to write all that poppy stuff, then they would probably be fewer songs. That's on top of the touring and other stuff he doing that takes away his time.I dunno, I feel like those same songs with better, Drake quality, verses would still have the "popstar" appeal… just with better verses
I mean Yachty makes hits. He was the main pen behind most of City Girl's stuff iirc. Then another part of that is being outta touch. Drake almost 40. Hard to write songs that would connect to a younger audience that he trying to stay connected to.Hell that's pretty much how Drake blew up in the first place- even on bubblegum songs he was putting his pen to work. Now he got Yachty writing for him… it's wild.
I mean Yachty makes hits. He was the main pen behind most of City Girl's stuff iirc. Then another part of that is being outta touch. Drake almost 40. Hard to write songs that would connect to a younger audience that he trying to stay connected to.
Yup. Yachty is a student of the game. We forget he had a 'real hip hop' mixtape years back, dabbled in a Tame Impala wanna be project, and just came out with an old school looking crew project.
We may not like his execution in regards to lyrics and flow (lol), but dude knows what he's doing. His 'A Safe Place' podcast had a steady stream of real MC's also including J Cole, Schoolboy Q etc and he talks musical nitty gritty stuff there too. Id recommend a listen
I don't think "there's no Big 3, there's just big me" is the mentality of someone who's unwilling to engage in beef.Kendrick taking the Meg route and not responding feels like The Way even if it doesn't feed the beef hungry. He said what he had to say.
Yea, but if Drake has to write all that poppy stuff, then they would probably be fewer songs. That's on top of the touring and other stuff he doing that takes away his time.
I mean Yachty makes hits. He was the main pen behind most of City Girl's stuff iirc. Then another part of that is being outta touch. Drake almost 40. Hard to write songs that would connect to a younger audience that he trying to stay connected to.
Booted up, that shit hit up and downs like a skate-ramp
She vapin' in my room, that shit lit up like a glow-lamp
Who want smoke? Okay, cool, it's they whole camp
Big shit popper, we the ones that get your shirt damp
Niggas try to take a nigga spot and now it's too cramped
Up, 8AM, geekin' hard, I'm a real vamp
These niggas got me fucked up, dawg, I'm too amped
Hmm-hmm, make this bitch lick me like a mail stamp"
Lupe is great. I couldn't understand not appreciating Ooh, Mural, Go To Sleep, Gotta Eat, The Instrumental, or Deliver.Yea I don't understand the Lupe adoration. Maybe he's not my thing but I remember liking kick push I guess? All his other songs were super wack to me
Kendrick didn't name Lupe in Control. Lupe's contention was being left out and because he felt the verse was "actually wack." He suggested he wasn't taking it seriously when he dropped his own tracks and just wanted to flex. Of course in the years since he's gotten really hung up on it, saying it was a mistake and then taking it back and so on.For the "pulitzer means kendrick doesnt have to respond crowd" - Kendrick named Lupe in the control verse, Lupe responded. He didnt have a pulitzer then, so why was Kendrick scared to respond at that time?
I think we could probably all come up with an 'Eleven' bar its that obvious.Make a song called Stranger Danger Things, sample the Stranger Things song, make it about all the creepy shit Drake has done with really young and under-aged women.
Writes itself.
C-C-Calling all the good rappers, had to get my crew togetherSo what if the entirety of All City Chess Club had their souls ripped out their bodies and bound to the Living Forest? Third time's the charm!
I dunno, I feel like those same songs with better, Drake quality, verses would still have the "popstar" appeal… just with better verses
Hell that's pretty much how Drake blew up in the first place- even on bubblegum songs he was putting his pen to work. Now he got Yachty writing for him… it's wild.
But you are going by the assumption Drake using ghostwriters is just a recent thing. It's been well documented he has used different ghostwriters for different songs over the course of his career from pretty early on. It's not just Yachty, he's just the most recent.The Yachty and City Girl's songs aren't hits because of the pen game though. And younger audiences still like the shit that Drake actually writes too. I guess having lil Yachty write throwaway songs saves time, but shit like
But you are going by the assumption Drake using ghostwriters is just a recent thing. It's been well documented he has used different ghostwriters for different songs over the course of his career from pretty early on. It's not just Yachty, he's just the most recent.
You are saying he was putting his pen to work, but even back then he was using other people's pen. You might like his old ghostwriters better than his current. But he has an established pattern of using ghostwriters. We don't know if he has ever even written anything at this point.
Kendrick need to release the damn tape. I'm over hear listening to Monster Freestyle and Control and I'm starting to wonder if he's just better and more confident popping shit and being provocative than he is at actually making targeted diss records
I think at this point, social media platforms like Twitter and YouTube should label all AI content the way Twitter's community notes label misinformation.People are making AI reference tracks now, looks like the Cash Cobain leaked reference for Drake is AI lol
Or ya'll just impatient,
relax and keep listening to other shit in the meantime too much music out there.
Or ya'll just impatient,
relax and keep listening to other shit in the meantime too much music out there.
Writing credits could be for a line or a hook. Drake had verses written for him, in hip-hop that's considered ghostwritten whether it's credited or uncredited.Kendrick need to release the damn tape. I'm over here listening to Monster Freestyle and Control and I'm starting to wonder if he's just better and more confident popping shit and being provocative than he is at actually making targeted diss records
We're not talking about ghost written songs though … we're talking about songs where these artists are actually given writer credit. His opponents are framing it as ghostwriting- because they know many people won't know the difference.
Is it possible he always had ghostwriters? Sure, but it's not likely. Why would the quality of ghostwriting go down as his spending power increases? And why would he just have fantastic ghostwriters right out of the gate?
Writing credits could be for a line or a hook. Drake had verses written for him, in hip-hop that's considered ghostwritten whether it's credited or uncredited.
You ask why the quality of ghostwriting would go down as his spending power increased. There's a number of factors.
Creativity isn't based on money, you can pay someone more but it doesn't mean that will be more creative or skilled. Finding good artist that are willing to give you their creative works isn't as easy as just paying someone more. Losing both Quentin Miller and The Weeknd definitely impacted Drake's sound, and those are just two that we know wrote for Drake (yes I'm aware Weeknd didn't write his raps but there is a pattern of him taking from other artists), there are definitely more. OVO was known to have writers tents.
Also he is trying to maintain his popularity with the youth so he would be seeking people who are already tapped in. Yachty definitely has his finger on the pulse in that regard. The writing/writers has changed because the sound that is popular has changed.
It's absolutely possible he had writers from the start. He was already fairly wealthy when he started rapping. He already had fame from Degrassi. Paying someone to write his rhymes would have been completely feasible right from the jump. He wouldn't be the first famous person to start rapping to use ghost writers. Kobe Bryant did the same thing. Drake just made a career out of it.
You mean someone like Quentin Miller? Yachty isn't the first person who has been linked as a writer for Drake.There are plenty of known artists who ghostwrite who are better writers than someone like Yachty. Having more money, means you can afford better talent.
As far as writing credits vs ghostwriting- If an artist isn't taking credit for something they didnt do, no damage is going to come from the allegation. My point is, the "revelation" that Yachty wrote a song, that he's credited for writing , and is objectively unimpressive lyrically, is harm. Until they can attach someone else to Drake's better verses, he gonna skate through the allegations.
Wasn't nobody selling their best work to Kobe , and it's unlikely they would do that for some Canadian cornball from Nickelodeon either. Drake made a name for himself with his own pen, and has even written bangers for other people.
It's not the way. he been sending shots at drake for years. No use going into hiding again. Just proves what J Cole said about hims dissing for attention right.
He also didnt say anything(Some nameflips for the album/songs and the prince line) other than to try and bait Drake to respond.
I heavily doubt kendrick will not respond. Ppl affiliated with him/TDE been posting about hearing the record. He just waiting for w/e reason.
Meg didn't respond because Nicki ended it herself by releasing such a weak track. I like Kendrick more as an artist but Drake's diss is rock solid, he wins by default if it ends here
I just can't get past the part that Drake hasn't even released the track.I don't think "there's no Big 3, there's just big me" is the mentality of someone who's unwilling to engage in beef.
Kendrick's the one who popped off in response to a song where J. Cole (and by extension, Drake) called him one of the best in the industry.
Not responding to Drake's [unreleased] response is weird.
But if he releases he also has to show the writing creditsI just can't get past the part that Drake hasn't even released the track.
Duppy freestyle wasn't ever put on Spotify legally either. I can however see him pulling a Ross and stepping on Kendrick's response like 2 hours later with a legit release of a direct response.I just can't get past the part that Drake hasn't even released the track.
The only good A.I. submission we've seen so far was the old school BBL drizzy
OVO boys trying to push that kendrick ai like it was real was definition of nasty
Duppy freestyle wasn't ever put on Spotify legally either. I can however see him pulling a Ross and stepping on Kendrick's response like 2 hours later with a legit release of a direct response.
Maybe, I have a feeling Drake's response will be about Kendrick looking like an obsessed weirdo lmao. He's baiting it especially with the lines at the end of Push Up where he said release the old diss from 4 years back.I honestly wonder if this is why Kendrick is waiting a bit because he knows Drake has another one in the tuck ready to drop
I just can't get past the part that Drake hasn't even released the track.
I agree, and it's possible that Kendrick isn't making any moves until Drake puts it out officially.I just can't get past the part that Drake hasn't even released the track.
Drake didnt wait a month to respond to like that. He had to wait a month because the we hate drake brigade had another project dropping that was also marketed on dissing Drake. So yea it makes sense to postpone the diss song to make sure you respond to most of the ppl.It took Cole 2 weeks to respond to Like That.
It took Drake 1 month to respond to Like That.
It took Ross less than a day to respond to Drake's diss.
This "Kendrick is on the clock" stuff is stupid. Don't look at Ross for how long people need to take when the others took weeks to respond. It's only been 4 days.