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Drake vs. Kendrick, Future, & Metro - 7/4 Kendrick drops "Not Like Us" Music video
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Because Ross and Drake are friends and everyone else is waiting for Kendrick to drop his diss. This keeps Drake looking active in this beef.
Seems Drake isnt going to officially drop Push Ups.
Lupe is a killer. He knows how to cut deep on a diss track. Love me some Royce but he did him dirty with Steve jobs lol.
I dunno, I feel like those same songs with better, Drake quality, verses would still have the "popstar" appeal… just with better verses
Hell that's pretty much how Drake blew up in the first place- even on bubblegum songs he was putting his pen to work. Now he got Yachty writing for him… it's wild.
Yea, but if Drake has to write all that poppy stuff, then they would probably be fewer songs. That's on top of the touring and other stuff he doing that takes away his time.
I mean Yachty makes hits. He was the main pen behind most of City Girl's stuff iirc. Then another part of that is being outta touch. Drake almost 40. Hard to write songs that would connect to a younger audience that he trying to stay connected to.
Yup. Yachty is a student of the game. We forget he had a 'real hip hop' mixtape years back, dabbled in a Tame Impala wanna be project, and just came out with an old school looking crew project.
We may not like his execution in regards to lyrics and flow (lol), but dude knows what he's doing. His 'A Safe Place' podcast had a steady stream of real MC's also including J Cole, Schoolboy Q etc and he talks musical nitty gritty stuff there too. Id recommend a listen
Yachty seemed like he was down and out for awhile, now he's got nothing but W's. Respect.
I don't think "there's no Big 3, there's just big me" is the mentality of someone who's unwilling to engage in beef.
Kendrick's the one who popped off in response to a song where J. Cole (and by extension, Drake) called him one of the best in the industry.
Not responding to Drake's [unreleased] response is weird.
The Yachty and City Girl's songs aren't hits because of the pen game though. And younger audiences still like the shit that Drake actually writes too. I guess having lil Yachty write throwaway songs saves time, but shit like
Can't be time consuming. This a highschool lunch table freestyle.
Lupe is great. I couldn't understand not appreciating Ooh, Mural, Go To Sleep, Gotta Eat, The Instrumental, or Deliver.
I'd definitely suggest listening to more than singles from him as he's never been a great, or even good, commercial artist. Lyricism, concepts, and story-telling is what he's about.
I honestly can't believe how much people are downplaying how good Lupe is.
Edit: "Professionally accept what ethically I hate/
So in all of my work you see me wrestling with fate" is still one of my favorite bars a rapper has spit.
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Kendrick leak confirmed 100% ai
This guy made it
View: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLfovUGT/
Proof is within the producer tag. Looking through his previous beats it has the same exact tag (example 10 seconds in)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_xaRo6ewiM
This guy made it
View: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLfovUGT/
Proof is within the producer tag. Looking through his previous beats it has the same exact tag (example 10 seconds in)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_xaRo6ewiM
Posting this mostly because I remembered things totally differently and got confused.
Kendrick didn't name Lupe in Control. Lupe's contention was being left out and because he felt the verse was "actually wack." He suggested he wasn't taking it seriously when he dropped his own tracks and just wanted to flex. Of course in the years since he's gotten really hung up on it, saying it was a mistake and then taking it back and so on.
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I think we could probably all come up with an 'Eleven' bar its that obvious.
C-C-Calling all the good rappers, had to get my crew together
Fire like the fire flower, flier than the super feather
Superman with two propellers
But you are going by the assumption Drake using ghostwriters is just a recent thing. It's been well documented he has used different ghostwriters for different songs over the course of his career from pretty early on. It's not just Yachty, he's just the most recent.
You are saying he was putting his pen to work, but even back then he was using other people's pen. You might like his old ghostwriters better than his current. But he has an established pattern of using ghostwriters. We don't know if he has ever even written anything at this point.
Kendrick need to release the damn tape. I'm over here listening to Monster Freestyle and Control and I'm starting to wonder if he's just better and more confident popping shit and being provocative than he is at actually making targeted diss records
We're not talking about ghost written songs though … we're talking about songs where these artists are actually given writer credit. His opponents are framing it as ghostwriting- because they know many people won't know the difference.
Is it possible he always had ghostwriters? Sure, but it's not likely. Why would the quality of ghostwriting go down as his spending power increases? And why would he just have fantastic ghostwriters right out of the gate?
We're not talking about ghost written songs though … we're talking about songs where these artists are actually given writer credit. His opponents are framing it as ghostwriting- because they know many people won't know the difference.
Is it possible he always had ghostwriters? Sure, but it's not likely. Why would the quality of ghostwriting go down as his spending power increases? And why would he just have fantastic ghostwriters right out of the gate?
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Or ya'll just impatient,
relax and keep listening to other shit in the meantime too much music out there.
It's crazy to think how much people in the industry and hip-hop fanbase hate Drake. Still, Drake got the casual hip-hop fans, club girls, kids and zesty dudes lol.
I think at this point, social media platforms like Twitter and YouTube should label all AI content the way Twitter's community notes label misinformation.
Impatient? It been brewing for over a decade and Kendrick been sitting on info for 4 years lol
In the meantime, yeah we all listen to other shit, but nothing wrong with being excited about the sport
I remember when Drake dropped Duppy everyone was like "Pusha gotta respond within two days or it doesn't matter".
Speed has become the name of the game.
Writing credits could be for a line or a hook. Drake had verses written for him, in hip-hop that's considered ghostwritten whether it's credited or uncredited.
You ask why the quality of ghostwriting would go down as his spending power increased. There's a number of factors.
Creativity isn't based on money, you can pay someone more but it doesn't mean that will be more creative or skilled. Finding good artist that are willing to give you their creative works isn't as easy as just paying someone more. Losing both Quentin Miller and The Weeknd definitely impacted Drake's sound, and those are just two that we know wrote for Drake (yes I'm aware Weeknd didn't write his raps but there is a pattern of him taking from other artists), there are definitely more. OVO was known to have writers tents.
Also he is trying to maintain his popularity with the youth so he would be seeking people who are already tapped in. Yachty definitely has his finger on the pulse in that regard. The writing/writers has changed because the sound that is popular has changed.
It's absolutely possible he had writers from the start. He was already fairly wealthy when he started rapping. He already had fame from Degrassi. Paying someone to write his rhymes would have been completely feasible right from the jump. He wouldn't be the first famous person to start rapping to use ghost writers. Kobe Bryant did the same thing. Drake just made a career out of it.
There are plenty of known artists who ghostwrite who are better writers than someone like Yachty. Having more money, means you can afford better talent. I'm not surprised he's buying the sound to stay relevant, I'm surprised he's keeping the lyrics verbatim- that's what's most lame about it.
As far as writing credits vs ghostwriting- If an artist isn't taking credit for something they didnt do, no damage is going to come from the allegation. My point is, the "revelation" that Yachty wrote a song, that he's credited for writing , and is objectively unimpressive lyrically, is harmless. Until they can attach someone else to Drake's better verses, he gonna skate through the allegations.
Wasn't nobody selling their best work to Kobe , and it's unlikely they would do that for some Canadian cornball from Nickelodeon either. Drake made a name for himself with his own pen, and has even written bangers for other people.
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You mean someone like Quentin Miller? Yachty isn't the first person who has been linked as a writer for Drake.
Obviously he can't tap Jay or Lupe or Skillz or Cyhi at this point in his career. Yachty is actually a good choice for the current climate, whether you like him or not.
Drake has not been honest about what he wrote and what he didn't, so at this point everything is in question. Maybe he wrote some things, maybe he wrote nothing. His artistic integrity is definitely in question.
I just can't get past the part that Drake hasn't even released the track.
But if he releases he also has to show the writing credits
The Quentin miller ref tracks were a lot more damning at the time but most people didn't care then so none of the ghost writing allegations are gong to hold weight now.
The only good A.I. submission we've seen so far was the old school BBL drizzy
OVO boys trying to push that kendrick ai like it was real was definition of nasty
OVO boys trying to push that kendrick ai like it was real was definition of nasty
Duppy freestyle wasn't ever put on Spotify legally either. I can however see him pulling a Ross and stepping on Kendrick's response like 2 hours later with a legit release of a direct response.
I honestly wonder if this is why Kendrick is waiting a bit because he knows Drake has another one in the tuck ready to drop
Maybe, I have a feeling Drake's response will be about Kendrick looking like an obsessed weirdo lmao. He's baiting it especially with the lines at the end of Push Up where he said release the old diss from 4 years back.
I agree, and it's possible that Kendrick isn't making any moves until Drake puts it out officially.
as LTG mentioned, Drake's gonna have to show writing credits on it once it's out there.
Yea, Im sure the writing credits is the reason drake isnt releasing it to streaming. Yall hilarious and must not know what "ghost writing" is. If it's a true ghost writer, they wouldnt be in the writing credits to begin with.
If anything he may be having trouble getting it cleared. He dissed Diddy in the first version and the beat samples what's beef. Dumb move by Drake if Puff or anyone connected to him, has to clear it.
If anything he may be having trouble getting it cleared. He dissed Diddy in the first version and the beat samples what's beef. Dumb move by Drake if Puff or anyone connected to him, has to clear it.
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This bars been out for a while but Kendrick dropping it would've been more of a bomb "he a 10 but he likes his girls 11, that's a strange ting"
And the Michael/Prince thing I wonder if he just volleys it back with Michael's interest in younger kids and Drake's underage rumors.
And the Michael/Prince thing I wonder if he just volleys it back with Michael's interest in younger kids and Drake's underage rumors.
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Kendrick bringing up Drake and young women, with a video attached to it, with a dope beat and flow would be disgusting. There's not enough money and accolades talk to beat that. Let alone the MJ connections, like let's be honest. Whether it's Control or Family Ties or Like That, Kendrick raps well on a dope beat while dropping some tough bars and people feel it. He's never really had to go super personal on someone yet. You add that in and it's nasty.
I went back and listened to Control after reading the posts in this thread. That shit is still flames. Kendrick's got a high bar to meet, but he put it there himself. Better cook.
It took Cole 2 weeks to respond to Like That.
It took Drake 1 month to respond to Like That.
It took Ross less than a day to respond to Drake's diss.
This "Kendrick is on the clock" stuff is stupid. Don't look at Ross for how long people need to take when the others took weeks to respond. It's only been 4 days.
It took Drake 1 month to respond to Like That.
It took Ross less than a day to respond to Drake's diss.
This "Kendrick is on the clock" stuff is stupid. Don't look at Ross for how long people need to take when the others took weeks to respond. It's only been 4 days.
Drake didnt wait a month to respond to like that. He had to wait a month because the we hate drake brigade had another project dropping that was also marketed on dissing Drake. So yea it makes sense to postpone the diss song to make sure you respond to most of the ppl.
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