Have you used the Steam Controller? If so, how does this compare to those rear paddles?
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DualShock 4 Back Button Attachment review thread
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Also I'm laughing at the IGN reviewer talking about how mapping R1/L1 to Fortnite made him better.
Why tf would you not map jump to the paddle when jump shotting is utterly critical to Fortnite? Why the hell is this guy talking like an authority?
Why tf would you not map jump to the paddle when jump shotting is utterly critical to Fortnite? Why the hell is this guy talking like an authority?
Thinking I should have grabbed one of these instead of an Elite 2 for my PC. The DS4 is so much more comfortable to hold.
Oh yeah, I forgot about these. I'll probably pick one up on payday, as I'm actually pretty stoked about this. I love my elite controllers I'd hope so, I have 3 (they're different colors/models, not like... broken ones or something).
Tim Rogers from Kotaku said he likes mapping the bumpers to the paddles on the Xbox Elite controllers because he didn't like them in his video review or the Series 2.
If these things let him play closer to his preference, I guess I wouldn't get on his ass for that.
I mean, I think that's weird yeah, since I tend to like to move other buttons to the R1/RB button like for reload a lot of times, but it's not the first time I've seen someone say something like that.
Tim Rogers from Kotaku said he likes mapping the bumpers to the paddles on the Xbox Elite controllers because he didn't like them in his video review or the Series 2.
If these things let him play closer to his preference, I guess I wouldn't get on his ass for that.
It took me a while to get used to four paddles at first, but after playing a few games with them I adjusted pretty quickly. I'm assuming it'll be easier with just two to have to adjust to.
I'll get it if I see it in store. Gonna remap sprint and jump. Pressing L3 to sprint has destroyed a couple of my controllers.
That IGN video is terrible. Audio out of sync. Clunky editing. Vlogging style low res zooms. I know they have to push out content fast but geez.
From the perspective of any device that recognizes a DS4, there is no difference between a DS4 and a DS4 with the back button attachment.
It's a nice side-effect of putting the UI for the button assignment on the device itself.
No but put something else on the stick. L3/R3 isn't bad for some stuff. A lot of the time I put stuff that's usually stuck on the dpad onto L3/R3 and map sprint or whatever I want to be paddle function to the dpad. That way you're hiding it on the garbage dpad, and never have to take your thumb off the left stick, that allows you to just occasionally you L3/R3 for less important functions. And making dpad the dumping ground for your paddle functions frees up L3/R3 to be way more ergonomic, convenient buttons.
Yeah, its ridiculous that reviewers and people in this thread want to use these freely customizable buttons in freely customizable ways. Obviously, Sony did not intend anyone to map L1 or L3 to these pads. People need to stop acting like authorities of their own preference and use only the most efficient and wise customizations.
After using them on the Steam controller, I'm very very interested in this. Jumping, running and all that are very useful to map to the paddles. Heck, I'm using the Steam controller on Witcher 3 purely because of the paddles.
edit: looks like you can from a reply above. I think it might be on my to buy list now!
Would this be able to be used with adapters like 8bitdo? Does it go through the controller and send what the controller already does, or does this need some software on the client side? Interested in this because I'd like the paddles on Switch games.
edit: looks like you can from a reply above. I think it might be on my to buy list now!
Given that this is almost certainly correct, this is going to be amazing for Daemon X Machina on the Switch.
EDIT: paddles becoming a standard also bodes well for the future of Armored Core and similar titles.
Thanks for the info... that's a shame as that was the first use case that came to mind for me personally.
It would probably considered a cheat if it were possible. You can always just program one paddle R2 and the other Square to just mash them both.
I wonder how likely it is to get full Steam Input support so you can bind the rear-buttons independently.
Can you bind touchpad click to the back buttons?
It's clicky? D: Hopefully there is away to quiet it a bit.
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Playing DS3 right now and I'm torn between mapping it to d-pad left and right to change weapons while I'm backing away or circle so I can move the camera while I'm running.
They also fuck up your stick position when you press them, and for some people they're almost impossible to press, because they require more pressure than the other buttons.
(I have been reliably informed by a UX / Accessibility expert)
It's literally not possible.
The attachment doesn't add any buttons, it simply provides a new way to press existing buttons.
Any configuration tool that relies on something outside of the device itself would mean no compatibility with all the non-PS4 devices you can control with a DS4.
It was probably technically feasible for the thing to store more than 3 presets but maybe they thought it would be too unwieldy to cycle through so many. As long as it's quick to configure I think the way they did probably makes the most sense.
An hour of battery is too much for the DS4, imo. :(
Can't wait for the DS5, though. Hopefully we'll get unofficial drivers for that controller as soon as possible to use them on PC.
Can't wait for the DS5, though. Hopefully we'll get unofficial drivers for that controller as soon as possible to use them on PC.
It's because it is programmed on the attachment itself and not in the PS4 UI.
Is the Share button mappable? I noticed most of the more expensive controllers with paddles don't seem to have that function.
An hour seems pretty crazy for a screen that isn't on most of the time (right?). I'd wait for more data before trusting that figure.
I've been a fan of paddle buttons under the game pad from when I first got my Steam Controller five years ago. This seems like a nice lil' upgrade for my DS4.
I wonder though, is is possible that Sony designed the PS5's brain so that both buttons work as L4 and R4 if the new console can detect the unit is attached on a DS4? If so, that would be particularly cool if this is extended to streamed/remote-play PS5 games, or even PS5 games running/ported on PC.
I wonder though, is is possible that Sony designed the PS5's brain so that both buttons work as L4 and R4 if the new console can detect the unit is attached on a DS4? If so, that would be particularly cool if this is extended to streamed/remote-play PS5 games, or even PS5 games running/ported on PC.
Well I suppose it comes down to how the attachment is handled by DirectInput, if it literally just hooks straight into the controller and "hijacks" the other keys yes it's impossible. But if the extra buttons are defined as new buttons and then just remapped to existing buttons, Steam and others drivers should be able to grab them as extras.
I think that steam Api will probably figure out something for that.
Can you program keyboard commands to it?
Interested in possibly getting this for FFXIV on PS4.
Sounds nice with the clicking and interested in picking it up to try out. When it comes to paddle usage (have the elite), it varies between games but mostly use it for sprint and (X/O) which is either jumping,dodging, crouching basically best used for mobility. Holding down L3 isn't comfortable and while there's click sprinting I'm used to holding buttons for sprint as it feels like it gives better control especially since I use shift hold a lot on PC. Dodging in most games pretty much so that you rarely take your thumb off the analog except for healing.
Personally, I could understand it more with the Elite because switching between the trigger and bumpers is actually more of an annoyance since the controller is more slanted, towards the triggers making bumpers more difficult to press.
