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DualShock 4 Back Button Attachment review thread
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I don't see myself getting one in the near future, but scalpers are already at it:
Scummy scalpers, I hope Sony releases a real shipment and real distribution on this and they have to sit on those units forever.
Got this over the weekend. I'm using it while playing Sekiro, and I assigned the right back button to circle for sprinting and still having control of the camera. My brain is adjusting slowly to the new input.
However, my biggest gripe about this product is that the back buttons only work when the inputs have been assigned to something else. Like there's no way to disable the original input or assign something else there. You don't actually get more inputs to use, and it's really just a way to keep your thumbs on the sticks and nothing more. I mean I knew that going in, but it feels worse now that I'm actually using the product.
However, my biggest gripe about this product is that the back buttons only work when the inputs have been assigned to something else. Like there's no way to disable the original input or assign something else there. You don't actually get more inputs to use, and it's really just a way to keep your thumbs on the sticks and nothing more. I mean I knew that going in, but it feels worse now that I'm actually using the product.
Same, really hard to re-learn how to play videogames :D Had the same when i transitioned from the pad to an arcade stick for fighting games.
Also i can´t seem to press L3 anymore to run in COD without pressing the back button, can´t find any solid footing to hold the pad in place with this so have to use the leftside button for L3 now. It´s more comfortable than clicking the stick for sure though.
Semi-casual, works great in Siege by binding L3 and R3 to the buttons to enable quick leaning without compromising the right stick movement while aiming.
It's been hard for me adapting to using it in Horizon as it's a game I've already put a lot of time in. I think I might have an easier time using it for a game I'm just starting out on.
I just bought one. The only time I need two controllers is for couch co-op and I don't "need" the back buttons for that.
Yeah, I bought two because I have two controllers and use them both. Once the battery is depleted, I plug it in to be charged and grab the other one off the charger. I'm trying to decide if I actually need two. Removing them and attaching them is a bit cumbersome and I'm worried if fitment will be affected if I am continuously removing and reattaching them. I'm just lazy of course too, haha.
I was really looking forward to this, but after trying to get used to it this weekend, I just can't. I must hold the DS4 strange, as I can't hold the controller as I normally do with the attachment plugged in without accidentally pressing the buttons. It also acted weird with my Astro MixAmp - it made party audio sound crappy despite the fact that the MixAmp is plugged into the PS4 via usb and not through the 3.5mm pass through. Admittedly I did not try to troubleshoot this too much as I just couldn't deal with the uncomfortable way I was holding the controller.
The actual device quality though is great. Buttons have a great feel and the screen makes it a breeze to remap.
The actual device quality though is great. Buttons have a great feel and the screen makes it a breeze to remap.
One of the reviews mentioned something about being able to better move around the camera while swinging through the city in Spiderman. I am really intrigued by that.
If you map a paddle to the X button (left paddle by default) then you can perform the jump boost and point launch without taking your right thumb off of the camera button.
Oh! I have had the game since last year in backlog. Thanks to this information, it sounds like I ought to start the game with the attachment. And here I thought I could start Divinity OS....
Thank you, kindly btw.
Modern Warfare: Crouch on left, Switch weapon on right. It's nice to not have to move my finger from the right stick as much.
Trails of Cold Steel: Turbo mode toggle on left, Option to skip cutscenes on right. Very convenient not having to reach over to the options button after every action in battle.
The versatility on this thing is great. My only issue is finding the right position to hold it in Modern Warfare. I have big hands/long fingers, so I find myself grasping the side of the controller unnaturally, which causes my hand to cramp. May take some time to adjust.
Trails of Cold Steel: Turbo mode toggle on left, Option to skip cutscenes on right. Very convenient not having to reach over to the options button after every action in battle.
The versatility on this thing is great. My only issue is finding the right position to hold it in Modern Warfare. I have big hands/long fingers, so I find myself grasping the side of the controller unnaturally, which causes my hand to cramp. May take some time to adjust.
I use an xbox elite a LOT, so I am used to hitting the extra buttons. With that in mind, I bought one to use with Destiny 2, and just found it slippy and uncomfortable (bear in mind, I already find the ds4 controller small and uncomfortable for my hands)
Before I give it over to a friend, I am going to try putting something tacky on the buttons to see if that changes the feel enough, but for me it's a miss.
Oh the other reason is, why the hell is there no integration in the OS? I want to assign a button to a trigger/button and NOT have the trigger still do an action.
Before I give it over to a friend, I am going to try putting something tacky on the buttons to see if that changes the feel enough, but for me it's a miss.
Oh the other reason is, why the hell is there no integration in the OS? I want to assign a button to a trigger/button and NOT have the trigger still do an action.
I'm considering getting one, though I don't play multiplayer games. It would be for comfort (I like using the back buttons on my Switch controller) and to make the controller more weighty.
Retaio price is fine but what the hell is going on with those resale prices ? Device is still at 30€ on French websites, it comes out on the 14th here. I wanted to buy one in a shop but now I'm wondering if they'll be sold out on release. It doesn't seem likely though, unless retailers receive very few of them.
Retaio price is fine but what the hell is going on with those resale prices ? Device is still at 30€ on French websites, it comes out on the 14th here. I wanted to buy one in a shop but now I'm wondering if they'll be sold out on release. It doesn't seem likely though, unless retailers receive very few of them.
It took me a while to get used to it (I kept squeezing the wrong trigger/back button for a while), but now that I'm used to it it's super freeing. Playing Borderlands 3 and looking around while I'm jumping and reloading is a real treat.
I'm even more excited for Doom Eternal now.
I'm even more excited for Doom Eternal now.
I found it a little uncomfortable as well. It's just not as good as the Xbox controller at the end of the day. Hopefully the DS5 is a little better designed or they just let us use any USB controller on any system.
been using it for a few weeks now (beat Death Stranding, Modern Warfare and The Order 1886 with it). Some days I love it, some days I think it legit messes with the core DualShock4 ergonomics too much and becomes a chore to use. Yeah, it definitely doesn't hold a candle to a Elite V2, which my teenager uses.
Yeah, I don't know, think I'm gonna take it off for a little while to see how I feel about it
Yeah, I don't know, think I'm gonna take it off for a little while to see how I feel about it
I absolutely love the paddles on the Elite but I'm not a huge fan of these so far. The Elite's are very low profile so it doesn't really change anything about where my fingers sit; these bump out just far enough that it feels like I have to slightly adjust my overall grip on the controller to have my fingers rest on them.
I could definitely see a DS5 with built-in paddles being a bit more comfortable.
I could definitely see a DS5 with built-in paddles being a bit more comfortable.
Yeah I've observed going from R1 and R2 is now fairly... unnatural/uncomfortable due to how your hands have to grip the controller.
I just got this today from my local Best Buy. Does anyone have any profiles to recommend for Souls games?
I got a couple ideas
Left and Right for Weapon Switching
Down and Square for item use/healing
Up and down for Magic/Heal switch
Just off the top of my head
For Elite controller users who love using the paddles, how well does this translate? I feel like this should make games like Bloodbourne and Nioh much more enjoyable to play.
Thanks, I'll try those out. I'm just looking at this thing and having a brain fart, lol.
My guess is that Sony didn't think this thing would be so popular and didn't make enough units.
When playing a Dark Souls game with my Elite controller on Xbox One or PC, I generally really like having a paddle set to for [Circle] to run and a paddle for [L3] to jump and I think it makes tricky parts that involve jumping much easier and allows you to sprint around a boss using a backbutton while still being able to keep the camera on them. (probably made easier for me though, since I assign them to my usual "jump" and "sprint" paddles).
It's better than no paddles, but it's pretty rough compared to the Elite 2. But also it's significantly cheaper.
I had the same problem. My solution was to map L3 to one paddle, and null to the other. Now it doesn't randomly click an important button when I set the controller down. I just switch to another profile when I actually need it.
I finally found one at Target this morning. Last one left. You guys weren't joking about how odd it is to attach to the controller. I was sure it was going to break and then it just sucked to the controller.
It's so strange having additional buttons to consider. When I was just messing around with it, not playing anything, I felt like I should be clicking the paddles with my middle fingers. This was really jarring because I usually play with my middle fingers resting on L2 & R2. But when I started actually playing a game my ring fingers naturally reached for the paddles.
I'm already thinking of some configurations like cover and environmental interaction in GTAV. Ducking or sliding in FPSs that support it would work well. I added item use to one paddle and dashing to another in Code Vein and it saved a lot of wasted time in combat.
Really happy with it.
It's so strange having additional buttons to consider. When I was just messing around with it, not playing anything, I felt like I should be clicking the paddles with my middle fingers. This was really jarring because I usually play with my middle fingers resting on L2 & R2. But when I started actually playing a game my ring fingers naturally reached for the paddles.
I'm already thinking of some configurations like cover and environmental interaction in GTAV. Ducking or sliding in FPSs that support it would work well. I added item use to one paddle and dashing to another in Code Vein and it saved a lot of wasted time in combat.
Really happy with it.
Now that it's been a couple weeks it's starting to feel like a really natural extension of the controller. My brain is already making the subconscious connection that my left middle finger is now the "jump" button in Apex.
Speaking of Apex, I switched the right button to up on the d-pad, and being able to freely change my healing items (or heal) and move is a big deal. I used to switch over to a temporary claw to do this and now it feels much more natural.
There is a negative: a d-pad heavy game like Hollow Knight is causing my hand to cramp up. There must be a subtle difference in hand placement that's applying pressure in a way it shouldn't, but I believe over time I'll figure out how to remedy this.
Speaking of Apex, I switched the right button to up on the d-pad, and being able to freely change my healing items (or heal) and move is a big deal. I used to switch over to a temporary claw to do this and now it feels much more natural.
There is a negative: a d-pad heavy game like Hollow Knight is causing my hand to cramp up. There must be a subtle difference in hand placement that's applying pressure in a way it shouldn't, but I believe over time I'll figure out how to remedy this.
I would love to try these out with DMC5 where all of Nero's hold moves make me weep, but I can't justify sinking $30 to do it. If they ever go half price though, I'm there.
I would have loved one, but i see a MAJOR negative/downside.
And that is the fact this attachment covers up the charge port next to the 3.5mm jack.
The very same charge port the OFFICIAL Sony dual charging station uses....
That's a negative alright. There will be way, way more of these in the wild then the charging station in a few weeks though.
Got mine today finally. So far it's a lot better than I expected.
Small, light, and I haven't had any instances of accidentally pressing them. There's just enough resistance to prevent that but not too much to make you struggle to press them.
It's a bummer it covers the EXT port so I can't use my DS4 charger with it but at least it's easy to remove and put back on.
Small, light, and I haven't had any instances of accidentally pressing them. There's just enough resistance to prevent that but not too much to make you struggle to press them.
It's a bummer it covers the EXT port so I can't use my DS4 charger with it but at least it's easy to remove and put back on.
Oh another negative is that I can't use my mute/volume Adjust R attachment anymore. While it would theoretically work with the 3.5 mm jack, the Adjust R attachment is molded to fit onto the bottom of a bare DS4. So I'm forced to unplug my cheap wired headset to "mute" or navigate menus to adjust volume.
An hour of battery life? Damn. The dualshock battery life is garbage as is.
I love the attachment, however.