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DualShockers: Fitness Boxing Rated T for Teen for Accurately Depicting the Female Form

Oct 27, 2017
3,351
#55
Far from wanting to be puritan about this, but I think the widespread use of breast physics in gaming to be really juvenile most of the times. Most games make it seem like the only parts of somone's body to be affected by gravity are women's breasts and hair.
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,642
#58
Far from wanting to be puritan about this, but I think the widespread use of breast physics in gaming to be really juvenile most of the times. Most games make it seem like the only parts of somone's body to be affected by gravity are women's breasts and hair.
I sort of agree. We have subcutaneous fat all over our bodies and it all moves. The breasts are probably more noticeable, but largely because many of us go out of our way to notice them...
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,221
#60
As said, the jiggling isn't really noticeable on the default trainer, but some of them do have pronounced erm... physics.

The only thing I noticed more was the slow-down on some of the stages, it can chug in handheld mode at points, which's odd.

I did wonder what Era's take on it would be. It's a good 'game' though...
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,351
#61
I sort of agree. We have subcutaneous fat all over our bodies and it all moves. The breasts are probably more noticeable, but largely because many of us go out of our way to notice them...
Yeah, and it's not like developers put as much effort on other moving bits of people's bodies as they seem to put on women's breasts. Sometimes it feels extremely jarring, IMO.
 
Oct 26, 2017
280
#62
All right the characters are preeeeetty sexualized though. Male and female. The boobs and the dudes are fuckin huge. And you can dress them in skimpy outfits?

I dunno there's a difference between this, and, say, Wii Fit Trainer if she had mild realistic boob jiggle. Granted I also don't think any video game has created realistic boob jiggle, so the typical shitty boob jiggle usually comes off as being implemented for sexy purposes and not realistic purposes. Between the giant boobs and jiggle physics, I'd say this leans towards being implemented for sexy purposes.

Still probably could've gotten an E10+. But I know this Teen rating is to keep my horny pubescent junior high self from dressing up the trainer with enormous boobs in the skimpiest outfit possible and jerking off to the bounciest song in the game. But perhaps kids aren't as sheltered and horny as I once was.

This was a far more graphic post than initially intended.
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,642
#63
Yeah, and it's not like developers put as much effort on other moving bits of people's bodies as they seem to put on women's breasts. Sometimes it feels extremely jarring, IMO.
It's not jarring for me because I'm so used to it. I'm used to it and I'm the Target demographic. The first game with freely moving boobs was dead or alive, and back then it was a real innovation lol since it was mostly young men in the arcade. I was 14 and I loved it! It was such a hit, it's sort of became normal and I don't even notice anymore.

But when I really think about it, yeah it's fuckin weird.
 
Oct 26, 2017
7,077
#64
It's there, but is it worth a T rating? I don't know. But it's not like anyone cares. This game is not targetted to pre-teen users anyway and by chance if some kid really wants to play it, I can't imagine their parents be like "no, wait until you're in middle school".
 
Nov 13, 2017
3,581
#66
Huh this looks like a lot of fun. The boob physics are barely noticeable.
One of those "the controversy around this will give the game more publicity than it ever would have gotten otherwise."

If not for perusing the eshop obsessively I don't think I would have even known this came out.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,265
#68
The real-life women in the video had more jiggle than the virtual trainer.
This, the real girl in the pink hoodie for example was more noiceable than anything inside the game.

PEGI wins again.
Also the game actually looks a lot of fun and as a designer i found those character models (female and male models) nice and easy to the eyes, also you change skin colors to black in any of them so thats another plus.
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,642
#69
I actually found out about this game last night because I was looking for more physical games like beat saber. This looks okay but I'm leaning towards arms. Maybe that Creed game. Something boxing would be fun.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,012
#72
why would he be joking? of course nintendo is pissed at this rating. they would want this game to get an E for sure.
I don't think they just have the rating suddenly sprung on them. I'm sure they could've gone back and had them edit stuff to make it E. I don't think Nintendo cares that much. Could be wrong though.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,301
#73
I actually found out about this game last night because I was looking for more physical games like beat saber. This looks okay but I'm leaning towards arms. Maybe that Creed game. Something boxing would be fun.
If you're looking for physical games because you're looking for a workout, this beats ARMS easily.
 
Nov 16, 2017
985
#74
I saw the Giantbomb QL. The game rewards you with a "prize" of a see-through halter top to put on your female trainer. It's completely unnecessary details like this in a fitness game makes me suspicious of the "breast physics" being implented solely for the sake of accurately depicting the female form....
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,642
#76
If you're looking for physical games because you're looking for a workout, this beats ARMS easily.
Looking for something to stay warm between getting on and off a stationary bike. We've been doing workouts after work and we alternate between one on beat saber and one on the stationary bike. The bike is where we do the real workout and then beat saber is like a fun break that keeps you moving. It's been really good.

This game is honestly looking pretty good because it's not really a game, so you can focus on putting more into your punches instead of just winning. Thanks for the suggestion, jaded.
 
Oct 30, 2017
717
#77
I really miss last gen for that Fitness games, used EA Active 2 on PS3 a lot of back then but sadly this year those games are not existant.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,873
#78
Never imagined this thread would get two pages.

I have been thinking of making a thread because it is a pretty good game. Joycon inputs arent perfect but I am on ten plus days straight doing workouts between the demo and retail. You can get a good workout.

The dress up feature is not my thing and kind of tacky. My Wife and I’s least favorite part. The gratuitous panning around the whole body is unneeded.

Overall works as a good exercise and light rythym game. They seemingly used computer generated voices and it shows. The trainer will go from calm to wildly excited quickly. Also they all use the same lines; “Boom, Boom, boom” so I just play with headphones in.

Going to keep going to get it ingrained as a habit combined with better eating. So far so good.

The breast physics shouldnt cause the ratings to be T as much as dressing your trainers in bikinis. Not a prude but it is unnecessary and pointless to the game.

Also not happy I cant record good runs or take screens of my good days
 
Oct 29, 2017
2,160
#82
Breast physics of any description probably trigger an automatic T rating by the ESRB.

Stupid, but you can blame decades of Team Ninja and D3 Publisher games for their current stance.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,873
#83
Nah, they just didn't record enough varied voice lines.

"To the front! TO THE BACK!"

"Alright THAT'S GOOD."
We walk around the house saying Alright THAT’S GOOD now all the time. I got up tot use the rest room and said I have to go Boom, Boom, BOOM.

They definitely skimped there
 
Oct 27, 2017
13,300
#84
I don't think Nintendo cares that much. Could be wrong though.
maybe not for this game, but i remember in a recent episode of the nintendo power podcast they were talking about how while localizing wind waker everyone at treehouse was panicking because they thought the game might get a T instead of E (E10+ wasn't a thing back then), it's clear that when they can they'd want that E rating to maximize their audience.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,424
#86
People really gotta get over this shit. Can we collectively grow up as a society and realize the human body and even nudity is not the same as something being intentionally sexualized?
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,683
#87
I've been using this almost daily and I can say I never noticed any "breast physics". Not saying they're not there, but I didn't notice at all. Maybe because you're not really looking at the instructor while you're working out? Or maybe it's because the movement is natural and nothing out of the ordinary...
Same. I’ve been on it regularly. It’s been harder to bike with the cold, but I typically spend spring and summer biking, so I’m not super out of shape. This game gives me a hell of a workout though. I can’t say I’ve noticed this though.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,176
#88
I watched the overview trailer and the breast physics seem fairly tame to me. That said, why do breast physics have to be a thing that exist in games at all?

That's a rhetorical question gents. I think we know why they exist.
Honestly, The more detailed the physical simulation, the more immersive experience. Yes, you can argue that moving breasts are inherently titillating, but I don't think that's a good reason not to include it. Having human forms move like human forms is just as important as having believable hair physics, and good particle effects. It aids the suspension of disbelief.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,708
#89
Breast physics of any description probably trigger an automatic T rating by the ESRB.

Stupid, but you can blame decades of Team Ninja and D3 Publisher games for their current stance.
That... really shouldn't change anything. There's a big difference between something like Fitness Boxing's use of physics and DOA's.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,411
#90
OK OP... you made me feel like some weirdo perv for watching damn Nintendo video looking at animated cartoon breasts to see what the hell they were talking about me.

Well played.
 
Oct 26, 2017
1,676
#92
Didn’t notice at all during the Giant Bomb Quick Look, though the ladies are quite attractive.

While there aren’t enough takes of dialogue, this could’ve all been solved by adding “CHU CHU CHU”.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,037
#94
Actually yeah, for some reason I haven't heard of this game, and looking at the trailer I really want it. Looks like a lot of fun and a nice little workout. Plus I love rhythm games, so yeah.

Maybe the ESRB's plan all along was to create a controversy to get more eyes on the game lol. Worked on me!
I just got it this week cos I need to lose some Christmas weight and I've found it tough getting into an exercise regime with a full time job and 2 young kids with a wife who works shifts. I'd recommend it. It's a fun little game which makes you sweat.
 
Oct 25, 2017
595
#97
I saw the Giantbomb QL. The game rewards you with a "prize" of a see-through halter top to put on your female trainer. It's completely unnecessary details like this in a fitness game makes me suspicious of the "breast physics" being implented solely for the sake of accurately depicting the female form....
My understanding from the quick look was that that was her default top, not a prize.