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Dusk Golem: PS5 costs around $600 at launch to produce, but pretty sure it’ll cost under that
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:o what? I mean.. we're getting unsubstantiated rumors that MS is losing >$100 on Series X... and certainly even more on Series S. MS has clearly tried to save in every single way, from not going all the way with SSD to getting rid of small things like the optical drive to not redesigning the controller. Shocking if Sony's decision lead to such a high cost (I mean.. or Covid, and this will all normalize in a year). IF TRUE, (big if) then I can't see DE being any less that $449. $120-150 loss over say the first 10 million consoles is $1.2 - 1.5 billion. That's not insignificant.
Well we know zhuge said xsx is more expensive by 10 20$ bom . So they r very close bom wise
It's not, Microsoft is just able to absorb the losses easier than Sony
You can see it is though. That is the most basic of chassis that box has been given. For better or worse, the PS5 has gone for extravagant housing.
You have a link by chance? Yeah, Bloomberg would be a far better source for this kind of thing than Dusk
That it cost that doesn't mean that's the price. Consoles are always sold at a loss. The only question is what loss Sony wants to take.
Doubt.
Bloomberg came with a pretty specific BOM (likely informed by Sony).
Zhuge has heard otherwise as well.
Bloomberg came with a pretty specific BOM (likely informed by Sony).
Zhuge has heard otherwise as well.
That was an estimate for the console, but you have to factor in the controller plus the fact that prices for components and actual production were going up due to the pandemic.
Now that doesn't mean anything really. Imo they won't launch higher than the XSX. They know that would look bad.
I dont think they want the "599" mocking to ever return again. So it's 598.
No we don't.
PS4 was sold at around 60$ of loss and that was with the Xbox One being 100$ more expensive so they could have priced higher. I don't even need to talk about the PS3 too.
And some how looks significantly worse. I'm sad every other Playstation has looked amazing, this looks awful.
BOM notwithstanding I don't think Sony would be dumb enough to price themselves out. I say they bite the bullet with $499
Yeah, there you go. Dusk has proven he doesn't know much about the technical part of this stuff and I have doubts any source he has is better than Bloomberg, so I think I'll go with that
Price to produce has nothing to do with proce sold to consumer.
Xsx bom is 20$ or so more expensive than ps5 according to zhuge.
for sure, just mean if it is above the X price at $550 for instance, would this translate into a PS3 situation again in this day and age? I personally dont see 550 being all that bad
No, BOM includes the controller and Dusk states "cost to produce" here. PS4 for example cost about $10 to manufacture per console. So the maximum cost of production for PS5 is $460 and that's even the figure Sony were struggling with due to scarce parts, which is a situation that has since gotten better.
idk where Dusk is hearing this from but Bloomberg sources are 100x more reliable than him on this. Plus Zhuge backed up that Bloomberg report.
That's not real is it.. Though, I wouldn't expect Mike Bithell to know the details of manufacturing.
Regardless, Bloomberg article is from February. It annoys me that people still cite it as gospel fact, as though nothing has happened since February. Nothing at all. To just read the first paragraph and then close the tab seems silly. Like HAS it actually gotten easier to get DRAM and Flash memory? Or has coronavirus exacerbated the situation? This is another line further down in the article:
That's certainly not true anymore. But the magical number would stay constant come hell or high water? Again, that's not to say Dusk is right and Bloomberg is wrong. I'm just warning us from using sources before a global pandemic (that also framed a $470 price point as being too high for consumers) and assuming that they're still correct as written (btw, Ferrs, Bloomberg says PS4 launched at a profit. People here always say differently, so I have no idea.)
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This, he's one of the best insiders in Japan industry in general. He knows stuff.
Dusk, as much as I like him, has only been remotely accurate in Capcom stuff.
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