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DW Griffith's Intolerance
- Thread starter sapien85
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Didn't he also do a direct sequal to birth called death of a nation but its a lost film with no surviving copy.
Edit : Lost film was called the fall of a nation " and was directed by someone else
He trash anyway
Edit : Lost film was called the fall of a nation " and was directed by someone else
He trash anyway
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Hold your horses OP. Per Wiki:
He's still trash.
worth checking out the you must remember this (and the reading list) about griffth. it's framed about fact checking anger's hot goss Hollywood Babylon, but she dives into a lot about griffth's racial politics, independent film and tech that is often credited to him.
http://www.youmustrememberthispodca...ews-fact-checking-hollywood-babylon-episode-1
http://www.youmustrememberthispodca...ews-fact-checking-hollywood-babylon-episode-1
There was no redeeming for this clown.
Watch The Birth of a Nation.
You think you've seen racism before...
Watch The Birth of a Nation.
You think you've seen racism before...
Yeah, I learned a lot about Griffith while getting my Minor in Media Arts. The guy was a brilliant technical director, but he supposedly was taken aback at efforts to censor his work, and when Intolerance bombed in the box office, he was financially and mentally ruined. None of his future pictures would be as good as Intolerance, nor would any make the kind of money he made with The Birth of a Nation. He remained a household name with regards to the Hollywood directors and superstars of the time, but he was quickly forgotten by the average moviegoers.
It's a shame that he is forever tainted by Birth of a Nation, because Intolerance is actually pretty damn good.
Why is it a shame? That movie revived America's #1 terrorist organization. He deserves it, fuck him and his mama.
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It is. The film is "why are you Blacks picking on me? Waaaaaaah. You guys are so intolerant, I make movie they can learn from!"
LOL This is good to hear. He should have telegram'd the Klan his GoFundMe address.
Ah, Intolerance. Arguably the best American movie ever made, and one of the form's most profound cris de coeurs. Griffith was a master of the art. But yes, he took the wrong side of history.
He died penniless and forgotten. So Karma had his way with him.
In fact, the premise for Sunset Boulevard was inspired by the writer noticing a shabby-looking regular in a Hollywood bar and someone telling him it was DW Griffith.
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The thing I always find most fascinating about Birth of a Nation is that the Civil War costumes used in the movie were actual real Civil War uniforms
That was Broken Blossoms
I enjoyed shooting guys on the decaying set of this movie in LA Noire
Also yeah I watched birth of a nation and I would watch this movie. Disgusting subtext notwithstanding, it is historically important. It belongs in a museum
Also yeah I watched birth of a nation and I would watch this movie. Disgusting subtext notwithstanding, it is historically important. It belongs in a museum
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Yep, he made Intolerance after Birth of a Nation in response to what he thought was intolerance to his racist beliefs. A lot of people, even at the time, hated Birth of a Nation and thought it was overtly racist. DW Griffith apparently had no idea people would think a movie starring the KKK would be seen as hateful. So, in shock, he makes an even bigger more ludicrous epic about how mean people were to him and his racist beliefs.
The KKK had no interest in him. Despite the reason for it's creation, Intolerance wasn't a film they wanted. It was a film beloved and respected and enjoyed by the Hollywood elites and no one else. He was essentially undone by The Birth of a Nation, and he never recovered from it's success. Karma is a bitch.
Great movie.
Don't think I can ever watch Birth of a Nation though. More so after having seen Black KKKlansman.
Don't think I can ever watch Birth of a Nation though. More so after having seen Black KKKlansman.
That may have been the motivation for making the film but I think it's hardly apparent in the actual content of the film. It's not really about intolerance towards racism.
The Birth of a Nation is really only worth watching / owning if you're a film historian.
Going by accounts of people who knew him, Griffith was a dope who did not have any kind of politically-minded sensibilities. Which is not to say he wasn't racist of course, but I think Birth of a Nation was him regurgitating stories he grew up with, without any thought as to what this film was going to do in the real world.
I mean, The Birth of a Nation was based on a book and play. The play was very successful. I honestly doubt Griffith really put any real thought into it beyond that, given what I learned about his politics (or general lack of interest in politics).
I recently watched it for the first time and thought it was a terrific film, but I'm not oblivious to the problems that it has. I do think it has its value even as a non historian, but of course with a critical eye on it, especially regarding the subject matter. I think Ebert said it best: "It is a great film that argues for evil."
I'm interested in reading the book some day to see how much of it has been translated onto the film. It should be an interesting, and most likely very tough, read.