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Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson hits out at 'snowflake generation' for 'looking for a reason to be offended (Update: The Rock Says Interview Never Happened)

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Oct 28, 2017
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Legit question, why is always a contrarian opinión on topics like this is automatically met with a “ Hiding alt righters coming out”
It's not a matter of opinion that's why. We know he's talking about Hart and only Hart not some larger discussion so the people chiming in with "he's right," must be either thinking that the Hart criticism was unfair OR they are the group that calls people SJWs. That group 9.9/10 times are Trumpers.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I mean, he's right that there's a "certain sector of society" that's "looking for reasons to be offended" and is "actually putting us backward". Just that, as always, that sector of society is the one that's constantly calling others stupid terms like "snowflakes" or "SJWs", or, you know, complaining about how everyone else is offended "nowadays".
 
Oct 25, 2017
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LOL at CurseVox's bs. Telling someone to not be offended over every little thing is such a white thing to do. I've lost count on how many times this happens here, any asian era member can attest to that.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I just think it's weird that you assume he is speaking about marginalized people being upset at legitimate things. I read his post, and I think to the people being offended at low video game or other media review scores, people offended that some poor customer service person is bending over backwards to their every whim, people offended that somebody didn't return their text, people offended by some aspect of a fictional story/character, shit like that.
that's adorable and I understand how vague these "hes' right you know" cowards actually are but that isn't it.

especially in a thread about that cornball dwayne obviously making these comments because of kevin hart's homophobic bullshit.

how about some self-reflection from these posters and the self realization of being a straight up asshole? it would make things easier.

also, am i back on neogaf?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I just think it's weird that you assume he is speaking about marginalized people being upset at legitimate things. I read his post, and I think to the people being offended at low video game or other media review scores, people offended that some poor customer service person is bending over backwards to their every whim, people offended that somebody didn't return their text, people offended by some aspect of a fictional story/character, shit like that. I don't think you are considering the full diversity of outrage that exists online because there is a lot at the very bottom of the barrel, and none of it has to do with marginalized people.
Why do you think he opened by pointing out that everyone gets to be who they want to be? No, he isn't talking about whiny gamers. You're ignoring important parts of what he said to project your own point into this.
 
Nov 3, 2017
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The Rock shouldn't speak so badly about boomers, I mean sure they are destroying the world and got into a fit of rage everytime there is something they don't "get" but still.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Why do you think he opened by pointing out that everyone gets to be who they want to be? No, he isn't talking about whiny gamers. You're ignoring important parts of what he said to project your own point into this.
He opened his post by saying he hates the term snowflake. At that point, I assumed the rest of his point is not about advocating for how conservatives use snowflake without he himself using the term snowflake. I thought he was speaking to what can be reasonably considered illegitimate outrage, such as the examples I listed.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Whole lot of people risking breaking their toes tiptoeing about what they really mean up in here, it's so transparent

Shocking that so few of you can be found in politically sensitive threads, almost like you're scared what people make of your actual opinions
 
Oct 26, 2017
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MBS and now Kevin Hart. Who’s next Rock?
one of these things is not like the other

Whole lot of people risking breaking their toes tiptoeing about what they really mean up in here, it's so transparent

Shocking that so few of you can be found in politically sensitive threads, almost like you're scared what people make of your actual opinions
this kind of deep paranoia is boorish and egotistical
 
I don’t actually know anyone that spends all their time being offended by a thing. They make a comment and then move on with their life. There’s just so many people saying and doing so many shitty things that there’s always something to call out.
I agree. There are things that absolutely should be called out and they are. That is a positive thing. I don't think that's the issue though.
 
So how about we don't +1 someone using that language in a way they don't really understand? And how about we acknowledge he's not actually right because people have always been opinionated (if that's what you mean by it).
So what term do we use for a guy who hears someone say happy holidays and get extremely upset about it? Or an obviously low income person who withdrew from a class after it was too late to get a refund, because a teacher said their hero was acting like a child? Gotta have some kind of term to explain those idiotic situations.
Still so many people jumping in with their lame ass takes not getting this is about Hart
I honestly just found out that they were friends thanks to this thread lmao. I've always ignored everything to do with Kevin Hart

I love that response haha
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's not a matter of opinion that's why. We know he's talking about Hart and only Hart not some larger discussion so the people chiming in with "he's right," must be either thinking that the Hart criticism was unfair OR they are the group that calls people SJWs. That group 9.9/10 times are Trumpers.
So there’s no nuance for discussion is what you trying to tell me. That’s where you and I disagree because if every discussion such a this gets some accused of being an alt right than what’s the point of even engaging.

I’m a minority Hispanic guy, and I’m not even looking at that statement from a gender,race or political view. I do however agree that people do get offended over the smallest of things. Now with that said I’m not trying to silence your opinion or of others. Topics like this is easily to get dog pilled on for not agreeing with the general consensus.

If he was alluding to the Kevin Hart situation then sure but he isn’t and people want to see and read what they want from that statement.

Those are my two cents, I think what I said isn’t egregious and actually rather respectful (cause tone is an issue at times). But I agree with what he said taking the Kevin Hart thing out of the equation.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Vicki had to agree to that stuff to pay for her family once Eddy died. I mean, she's a Guerrero, she got pro wrestling, but it was awful.
Every insult to Cena(and Punk) basically being "You're gay, and gay is bad" was kind of gross too but at least in those instances there were his adversary and were beating him up. Vicki had no involvement in anything. She wasn't even a heel authority figure anymore.

Ryback saying "you're a nice person and you don't deserve this" and hugging her was meant to make Ryback look stupid, but he looked like the only sane one in the bunch.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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"He added: “We thankfully now live in a world that has progressed over the last 30 or 40 years. People can be who they want, be with who they want, and live how they want."

This is very easy to say for a straight man celebrity with millions of dollars in their bank account. He won't get fired for being gay. He won't be beaten up for being trans. He won't be paid less for being a woman. And due to his line of work and success, he won't even be denied a job or a loan for being black.

But he will lose his shit for being in a badly reviewed movie. Kinda like a snowflake.

Also "my friend Rupert Murdoch", fucking ewww.
 
Jan 24, 2018
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sweet christ and that right there is exactly the problem. You're right. I don't get to decide and I don't care to. I have common sense, decency and manners but I'm sure as hell not going to walk on egg shells to make sure you don't get offended by something. That's your problem, not mine. How do you expect to make it in this world if you can't handle being offended from time to time? Also, I find it funny how you go right in defense mode about being offended but have ZERO problem slinging insults. I guess it only matters when you're offended, huh?
So you have common sense, decency and manners but yet you say if someone gets offended by something you say, that is their problem not yours?

How do those trains of thought fit together?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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So what term do we use for a guy who hears someone say happy holidays and get extremely upset about it? Or an obviously low income person who withdrew from a class after it was too late to get a refund, because a teacher said their hero was acting like a child? Gotta have some kind of term to explain those idiotic situations.
Opinionated idiots?

That kind of thing is nothing new, as reasoned above. It's certainly not a generation thing, and it's certainly not "new" and "increasing".

"Snowflake generation" is terminology used by the right to shit on marginalised people. The less we +1 it, the better.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Literally none of the tweets quoted in this article are "offended"

But let's just pretend for a minute that the whopping six tweets they found were "offended." Does that actually mean that there is an epidemic of "snowflakes" or that an extremely small minority of people are taking things a little too far?

Fuck this stupid strawman and false narrative
Pretty sure the people "offended" by calling Thanks a sociopath were mostly people who think he was right to want to commit genocide for the "right" reasons too. Not exactly the perfect candidates for generation snowflake.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's funny because these days I see more people complain about snowflakes than I see "actual" "snowflakes" complaining about something.
Yep. They've got their own insecurities about the world changing and leaving them and their outdated views/opinions behind. So they have to find someone to blame for making them feel left out of the new, more progressive world.

As always, it's the young generations that they point their ire towards. Tale as old as time.
 
Opinionated idiots?

That kind of thing is nothing new, as reasoned above. It's certainly not a generation thing, and it's certainly not "new" and "increasing".

"Snowflake generation" is terminology used by the right to shit on marginalised people. The less we +1 it, the better.
I mean I'd never use the term snowflake anyway because of the alt right freaks lol
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I don't see why people are so eager to declare which celeb is a great human being, when none of us know these people and never will.

Just chill
I mean, there are very few reasons we can look at a person and make an overall value judgement regardless of celebrity status.

Kevin Spacey? Obviously a giant chode-face.

The Rock? He has opinions about things.
 
Hmmm, not a good look there. He has bootstrap mentality however so this isn't surprising, doesn't he also lean right politically?
There's nothing specifically wrong with leaning right or having a bootstrap mentality, though. There is a degree of truth in overcoming obstacles yourself rather than expecting help and it's not like everything conservatives stand for is automatically wrong, either. In fact, most of the time, it's the people who represent conservative values that are the issue rather than the values themselves.

As for the snowflake thing, it's kind of a widespread issue independent of political ideology. Even in the field of comedy, lots of jokes no longer fly because people are now deciding they're offended by them. It's very difficult to draw a line between things that are actually offensive and things people are choosing to be offended by and it's very easy to get dogpiled for enjoying things the internet has decided in the last few years is no longer acceptable. Take Mel Brooks' movies - it's frowned upon to like even Young Frankenstein or Spaceballs these days because they're considered offensive and Mel Brooks himself admitted he couldn't release those movies today because they'd be considered too offensive.

And it's not just a "millenial" thing, either. Remember last year and the whole punching Nazis thing and how conservatives got super offended by it and demanded civility?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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It's not a matter of opinion that's why. We know he's talking about Hart and only Hart not some larger discussion so the people chiming in with "he's right," must be either thinking that the Hart criticism was unfair OR they are the group that calls people SJWs. That group 9.9/10 times are Trumpers.
I can only speak for myself, but I very specifically was not referring to anything Hart related, and was only speaking to a larger discussion regarding the amount of people online and the diversity of things that upset people being so great that it inherently covers both legitimate and illegitimate topics.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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To think I used to be such a fan of the rock yet now all I think when I hear him speak is - fuck the rock!

Yes society has made progress but that's because people refused to stay silent about the mistreatment many were suffering. Just because progress has been made it doesn't mean society is where it should be.

We still have discrimination, bigotry and abuse prevalent in many forms yet according to people like him, we should all just take what gains have been made and shut up about anything else.

Also the term snowflake truly only applies to the right who can't accept that people want to be treated equally or want consideration in their daily lives.
 
Jan 24, 2018
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but what if he was in a movie i like?
I'll assume you're being sarcastic but since people really do justify their deification of celebs playing a fictional character, I'll say this,

Just watch the damned movie. All of this celebrity worship is just silly.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Snowflakes have existed forever in this country.

Snowflakes burned women at the stake because they dared to express their femininity.

Snowflakes murdered MLK and Malcolm X because they dared to speak up about equal rights.

Snowflakes demonized Tommie Smith and John Carlos and sent them death threats because they dared to raise the black power salute at the Olympics.

Snowflakes ruined the career of Colin Kaepernick because he dared to protest police violence and criminal justice reform.

Snowflakes just attempted to oust a Texas GOP leader because he dared to be Muslim.

Snowflakes claimed the POTUS wasn't legitimate because he dared to be black.

The next time you find yourself complaining about someone being overly sensitive about something that doesn't personally offend you, perhaps take a moment to look back on the true snowflakes of this country and the real damage they cause, and put that in perspective with whatever it is your complaining about.
Didn’t the Nation of Islam kill Malcolm X?

It doesn’t mean your point is invalid it just stood out among everyone else mentioned
 

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And you can't provide any examples of what you mean?
People calling for a boycott of Cyberpunk 2077 because CDPR tweeted a "Are you assuming their gender!?!?!?" 'joke'
The whole campaign against Halloween costumes
That white girl that wore the Chinese dress to prom
Cultural appropriation in general
The 'war on Christmas'
Hollywood's liberalness in general (Meryl Streep's Golden Globes speech)
 
Oct 28, 2017
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So there’s no nuance for discussion is what you trying to tell me.
Not in this thread there isn't because The Rock is not speaking generally he is literally responding specifically to the Hart situation it just appears like he is trying to have a larger discussion because he's a coward. So the"nuance" you are looking for isn't there. You are using his pretty straight forward defense of his friend to argue your own hang ups with people being offended.

You think there is a larger discussion to be had and are free to make a thread on it but don't try and piggy back your agenda on to his statement because his agenda was to simply defend his homophobic friend nothing more.
 
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