Can you offer an example of one of these "small" things that someone got offended over and shouldn't have?
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Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson hits out at 'snowflake generation' for 'looking for a reason to be offended (Update: The Rock Says Interview Never Happened)
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Precisely. Well articulate.
We don't, it's always been this way, the internet has just amplified it.
There are people actively harming the world, and they certainly aren't the people on Twitter who definitely exist and got offended at Santa's gender.
Imagine being the person waiting around for people to turn on someone because you don't like their success.
Imagine that.
i was in a hipster coffee shop over christmas break and it was just filled with dead-eyed 20-somethings chanting "SANTA IS A WOMAN," I promise this actually happened
I agree. Especially considering that I am one of those brown people.
It can be true that our generation has questioned the casually regressive attitude towards minorities and the general immorality that is common similar to how the children of the baby boomer/World War generation questioned the treatment of minorities that lead to an improvement in civil rights and more equality. However, it can also be true that there are countless instances of overreactions and overthinking things to the point where I don't believe it's an untrue statement that we live in an outrage culture, and that a lot of people seem to look for things to be offended by.
It's frustrating. On the one hand it's necessary to progress our society. On the other hand it helps emphasize the divisive culture we live and it's just not pleasant. Even in progressive circles in can create a hostile climate.
It's frustrating. On the one hand it's necessary to progress our society. On the other hand it helps emphasize the divisive culture we live and it's just not pleasant. Even in progressive circles in can create a hostile climate.
lmao just today on Twitter I saw people freaking out about that TRIGGERED SNOWFLAKE ON CAMPUS video from like 2015 and every Youtube video about the snowflake generation uses the same picture of a woman with dyed red hair and rimmed glasses. There's like ten examples that are trotted out again and again, if even that. The snowflake generation is a serious widespread issue ok
the latter would be who i'm referring to. NOT the people who are upset with others actively harming the world.
Just because I agree with what he said to an extent doesn't mean I share his opinion on everything.
Yup.
This is just another example of "I'm offended that people are offended about not being accepted."
"People are so sensitive because i said hateful thing" sits alongside with "i have the right to say hateful thing" as straws shit people reach for to justify being shit.
Nice to know that people don't jump to conclusions at all here.
I'm saying that the people who are easily offended are the ones that get upset at things like people wanting preferred gender pronouns, or people that get mad when you say happy holidays instead of merry Christmas. Stuff that shouldn't be an issue.
I have an idea of what you all assumed I meant, but keep the pitchforks at bay now.
Edit: just because I agree to a degree about what he's saying doesn't mean I share the same viewpoints.
But the only reason why we see these people as an issue is because of sensationalist headlines blowing it up. Nobody thinks Santa should be gender neutral, but boomer news articles blew it up and acted like it was this widespread movement. One radio station called out Baby It's Cold Outside for having rapey lyrics and the same thing happens.
It's incredibly easy to just invent drama. Like someone could go on Twitter right now and make up some bullshit about Millennials finding Dumb and Dumber offensive for having an ablest slur in the title, and a bunch of people would queue up to dunk on the special snowflakes without actually fact checking if anyone actually said that.
I pitchfork is gathering dust, I simply disagree with the basic premise you've outlined.
I know, lets scour his social media for problematic posts
lmao that post is too clever by half
OK. Do you think conservative fucking Dwayne Johnson is talking about people complaining about the use of gender pronouns?
Asking for you to explain a vague agreement post isn't using a pitchfork, calm down.
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Our generation is having a social awakening, quit your bitching DOOWAYNE. If you don't like it just keep voting Republican like you've already been doing for the past two decades. They are big on regression just like you, perfect harmony!
There are people out there that are overly sensitive, sure. But that's hardly a fucking pressing issue compared to our country that's actively on fire.
There are people out there that are overly sensitive, sure. But that's hardly a fucking pressing issue compared to our country that's actively on fire.
The Big Sick, a true story about an interracial relationship, received criticism for not having a south asian woman as the love interest.
Chris Pratt being openly religious was also too offensive for some
Japanese dogs speaking English in a movie
or Michelle Obama enjoying GWB's company when they're forced to sit together
Even this forum couldn't get behind being offended by a white model wearing a Wakanda shirt
On the right there are endless examples. Starbucks changing the color of their cups, Trump being called a motherfucker, Obama bowing or giving shitty gifts to the queen or wearing a tan suit etc. etc. They couldn't even handle Warren reading a letter on the Senate floor
It's entirely disingenuous to pretend that all outrage is based on legitimate serious issues like trans rights and that is the only possible thing people could be sick of
you're not wrong, but man, it frustrates me to no end that a term can be "co-opted" to a point where it cannot be used without their taint.
Dwayne has always come across as insincere to me. I'm not really surprised the only time he's really made any comment on social issues outside of vague "let's come together" platitudes is after his buddy caught some shit. #GetLitty
People have always been this way, though. I think it's amplified because of the internet and social media, and because it becomes a self-fulfilling outrage prophecy.
I wasn't doing that, I was asking for that single poster about some examples they would cite, as I have done with several other posters in the thread. Everyone has a line for what they think is "being offended over nothing" (which is a garbage meaningless phrase, but let's just use it as shorthand) and I am trying to establish the goal posts that some people have, which is necessary when they're being vague.
Thank you for being one of the only people in the whole thread to actually provide examples.
I don't really agree that all of those things you shared are good examples of "outrage culture," but that's a whole different topic that could be discussed at length and it would probably get glossed over in this thread.
"My" reality doesn't do that at all. I've never said that one isn't responsible for their own actions or accountability. I simply said that help is expected. It doesn't matter which is easier. For instance, if I'm passing a class with a C but want help getting an A, I go to tutoring. The tutors don't do the work for me in class. They help me. It's still my responsibility to do the work in class and study. Everyone everywhere has been helped by others. No one does anything solely on their own.
Except the "bootstrap" mentality is championed by people who don't give back because "I did the hard work, you should have to as well." It's a toxic mentality. The same people want to take away social programs from people.
I think, in this case, it is black and white. I should help anyone who needs or wants it as long as I'm not doing something to hurt others. It's both my moral and religious imperative.
The Rock is defending his friend, I get it. The criticism towards Kevin Hart is justified, however.
There are people who take it too far, I've seen it. Those people don't have a very large voice though, and usually the masses will decide if it's worth caring about or not. As a whole, we're getting better. Don't let the minority who take it too far speak for everyone else.
Also yes, this sounds like a response to his buddy K Hart who handled his scandal horribly. Could have just apologized right away, but his toxic masculinity forbids him for connecting with the LGBT community.
Also yes, this sounds like a response to his buddy K Hart who handled his scandal horribly. Could have just apologized right away, but his toxic masculinity forbids him for connecting with the LGBT community.
Oh you mean where she say he is a beautiful, funny, kind, sweet man?
But no, just forced to be friendly when sitting next to him....
This as well.
I posted something about AOC, and said "I. Love. This. Girl."
My super liberal friend responded with "she's a women SMH"
Like my dude. My using girl/woman is not the biggest fish to fry. Also since I've come out as queer, I find myself using 'girl' for a lot of people lol.
If we recognize that the internet makes it easier to spread a message or ideology we shoulld accept that it's not the same as in the past.
This. Calling it "being offended" is not representative of what and how people are responding. It's calling out people for doing or saying things they should not.
It's an issue that goes beyond right or wrong. Read the woman's article. She wrote quite clearly as to why having stereotyping depictions of her culture achieves nothing and is tokenism at "representation", that if games are really interested in having a particular culture be in them, they need to do more. Maybe some Mexicans might think she's over reacting, maybe some would agree with her. It's not simply because she's "offended" that she's reacting this way.
Most of the time, those who say that people are overreacting or acting offensive don't want to think deeper about the issues that others have raised. They don't want to have take time to listen to voices that are different from their their own. Sure we have people who over react sometimes but in general don't be dismissive and don't come in and say that someone is acting offended when they aren't even prepared to just listen.
A good example of talking about issues is that very article on Mario. When I first saw the headline I thought it wasn't a big deal. I also never thought that about Mario and the use of the costume being a problem. After reading the article it made me think deeper about why Nintendo's representation can have a negative effect even if they don't intend it to be. It also reminded me that this also happens to many non mainstream cultures and groups of people.
If it can affect the way I think I'm sure the article reached out to many as well. That's something and we need more of these articles.
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Grannies in churches have been moralizing and sowing outrage since before the internet. Same with college students on campuses. The internet just amplifies the reach. We just get outraged over different things now. Sure, the means of spreading the outrage and the news of the outrage is not the same, and it does reach more people, but to act as if people are suddenly too sensitive is weird to me. There have always been people who are deemed too sensitive by segments of the population.
Anyway, maybe I'm digging my own grave here, but I don't think so?
What do you want her to say? Despite his politics he probably is nice in person.
People jump to "put down the pitchforks" even when it's just someone commenting on what they did or said. It's pretty fragile.
And he again lives in a time when adults launch campaign after campaign to ban/censor media they view as offensive or raunchy. He kind of has a point, don't you think?
I can understand from THIS viewpoint, not from The Rock's though.
"You're kind of being an asshole."
"OMG TRIGGERED MUCH?? Gosh everyone is so serious all of the time it's just a joke don't be so offended geez you can't say anything anymore etc."
Every. Fucking. Time.
But.. what if he's talking about people who get upset when others want to use gender pronouns?!
^An actual take in this thread
Conservative guy who complains about not using masculine emojis is actually fighting for use of gender pronouns!
Sooo are y'all in here saying that people are too easily offended gonna speak up in the next thread we have about a big gaming studio releasing a mobile title, or does that not count because reasons?
Jumping to "outrage culture" really does nothing but say "your point isn't even worth stating", which really just reinforces the status quo. It's not much different than family members who act like dicks and go "WELL THAT'S JUST THE WAY I AM, YOU CHANGE TO TOLERATE ME CAUSE I SURE AS HELL AIN'T GONNA".
Was just about to type something like this in response to another post. Like, yeah sometimes someone might overreact at something you did with no ill intent. But it's also important to consider where they're coming from, because we all have blind spots and might not see where we could be reinforcing negative or harmful shit without realizing it. I noticed that in my own life, when I stopped dismissing these concerns and started sincerely listening and empathizing, communicating with folks became much more constructive. Even if we might not fully agree. And it did a lot to make me realize the toxic elements of my own behaviour and become a better person.
Jumping to "outrage culture" really does nothing but say "your point isn't even worth stating", which really just reinforces the status quo. It's not much different than family members who act like dicks and go "WELL THAT'S JUST THE WAY I AM, YOU CHANGE TO TOLERATE ME CAUSE I SURE AS HELL AIN'T GONNA".
It won't be long now until 4chan starts inspiring people to be offended about shit. People are so far gone at this point those fucking rabble rousers will certainly spread like a disease.
Let that sink in.
Let that sink in.
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