Yup. People feigning concern over cherry picked complaints online are showing their ass too
Dog whistle got people tripping over themselves to applaud this trash.
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Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson hits out at 'snowflake generation' for 'looking for a reason to be offended (Update: The Rock Says Interview Never Happened)
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Dog whistle got people tripping over themselves to applaud this trash.
I said female ones in a era thread and some dude came at me talking about using the word female will catch me heat even though I meant no harm.
Which brings me to my point people look for stuff to just get mad or complains about or just looking deeper than it actually is.
I'm not saying everyone does this or trying dismiss important issue but most people on social media just looking to be outrage over some issue that isn't serious. Which takes away from bigger issue that actually needs to discuss
The Rock sucks. He's a bad actor, he has bad politics, and he's just generally full of shit. I wish people would quit lionizing these entertainers.
That's what it's always boiled down to. Caring about something another person doesn't is hysterical outrage.
"This doesn't impact me whatsoever so it is literally meaningless"
There was a whole thread about why many people do find it problematic. It was also filled with people who complained about others looking to be outraged and looking too deep into things.
I always hate when people gloss over outraged with snowflake shit. Yeah, sometimes there are people who look to get outraged, but most of the time it's warranted, like with Louis CK.
Pointing out that the term female has and continues to be used as a dehumanizing term and that maybe you should watch what context you use it in isn't outage though. It's just pointing out that there's better language to use that doesn't mirror some shit incels say.
I posted a track on Facebook last week and my mom said it "sounded oriental." I ain't gonna go on some tirade about how that's racist, but I sure as hell let her know that it's a term she shouldn't be using.
The "outrage" people hear when they get called out on stuff like this is perceived, because being corrected on stuff like this is triggering on it's own. People don't like hearing what they said is insensitive, or could be construed as insensitive, so instead they naturally bite back. "Don't be so outraged" really means "I'm feeling sensitive about being called out on something I did or said," at least most of the time.
There is a loud group of people who think that caring about something makes you weak or less than them. Not caring about anything is seen as cool and logical.
Stoicism is cool when you're a moody, edgy teen. Too many people don't grow up from that point.
Kevin Hart said some homophobic shit long ago, has never apologized for it (despite his insistence he did), and you wanted to dismiss those who had a problem with this.
"He should host the Oscars and mad people can stay mad".
Get the fuck out of here with this.
Here's the thing about the term "female": culturally, in English speaking countries at least, the word is used in a dehumanizing manner. There have been threads about this on Era with multiple examples of people within communities (communities that are directly causing the major issues that we need to tackle) referring to men as men but women as females in a context that is clearly treating women as not worthy of being consider individual persons.
That's not "looking for something to get mad about". That's pointing out that you're using terminology that is regularly used to marginalize a group of people.
I can understand that there are some who might see someone use the word and immediately assume that person is one of the folks in the communities I mentioned. That does happen on occasion. But it's also important to understand that your intentions are only half of the equation. You can do something with the best of intentions but it can still hurt people due to experiences others have had that you have not. If that weren't the case then helicopter parents and tiger moms wouldn't be considered a problem.
And especially on a site like this where we're mostly strangers to each other, where a lot of people here have already been dehumanized by the use of that specific term in their daily lives, people aren't going to know your intentions. It's the respectful thing to do (and also a good habit to not allow your language to influence your thoughts) to avoid using the term. When the response is simply "Well you're just overreacting" with no indication that there was any consideration of the other person's feelings or lived experiences (as is often the case), especially after we've had at least one thread here discussing all of this that is regularly linked, how do you expect people to respond?
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I think it's more to do with the fact that people attach a moral imperative to caring about something, and surmise that not caring is the equivalent of being a bad person. Rather than work through why such a self-imposed dichotomy is unnecessary, or actually consider the position of the person caring, it's easier to shut down in one's little bubble by characterizing the mere act of caring as wrong.
Yep. This mentality infects a lot of millenials who grew up on South Park.
Well to be fair not to long ago we did have that franklin from the peanuts outrage which is laughable if people bothered to know about Franklin creation. There are stupid outrages out there sometime and they don't always come from the right.
And do you think Dwayne Johnson is referring to Franklin when he's talking about the "snowflake generation", in the middle of the Hart controversy?
Dunno i'm not the Dwayne Johnson, but to me "snowflake generation" would include them with those on the right that complain about human rights issues.
Just feel like all I see outrage now a days, most valid some no so much.
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That's my whole point you can stay mad about him not apologizing, if your not satisfied with his apology that's on you. I wasn't demising shit, i was basing my comment on his Instagram post he apologize on and his word that he said he already address the issue before and moved on.
I brought up how Ellen accepted his apology and moved on and the people who didn't accept it can stay mad or do w.e they want to do. In no way I said stop talking about the issue. You saying I was trying to demises it gtfo with that shit and stop saying shit I didn't say.
As for those addressing the female comment I understand why it could be offensive as I stated in my comments. I was just pointing it out how when I used it someone came at me as if I meant to offend anyone. I quickly did my own research and even changed the word from female to women to not cause any issue after understanding how it could be offensive.
Instead of the poster pointing out why I shouldn't use female in that context, like some of you are explaining to me, he basically came at me trying to start something when it wasn't that serious, as one poster said in the thread.
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The Rock should go fuck himself. He always was a shitty person.
Was this before or after the journalist murdering?
Because a lot of people were on the "look how progressive he is!" train up until then.
Except he didn't actually fucking apologize in that instagram. That's the whole fucking point. He refused to apologize at first, kept trying to argue he's apologized before (which no one can actually find), and then immediately started playing the victim game with an insincere "I'm sorry if you were offended" stance that really shows he didn't actually grow and learn shit from this.
And despite people being rightfully mad about this, you post:
"oh fucking well"
So yes, you are 100% trying to downplay and dismiss why people are angry at him. So to turn around and complain about outrage culture comes across incredibly disingenuous.
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Before.
It was still dumb then because anyone could find out about MBS being a sham. It is like the Interview movie.
The point is.. he needs to define what it is he's taking issue with specifically instead of throwing out suspect buzzwords like "snowflake", especially to describe an entire generation.
Otherwise it comes across as a dog whistle, especially in regard to the context of Hart's recent statements, who he's apparently very close to/friends with.
100%.
"We've progressed so much but people are still whining about how we should progress!"
What an idiotic statement.
I'd like to stake out the claim that "The Rock" being kind of a political dunce, while unfortunate, does not matter much, in the grand scheme. He's not developing public policy, his job is to eat 10,000 calories of pancakes and be a big giant meathead for our amusement.
I get where you're coming from, but it's annoying growing up with people who use those bad guys as an excuse to never address the bad things they do.
It's weird to watch people be so against msygony and then turn and make a gay joke.
Or white kids in college explaining to me why it's not racist when they use the n word.
That Kevin hart pic of Dwyane holding him like a baby is hilarious. And perfect for this thread.
His new show looks like crap. Vin diesel stays winning in my book.
His new show looks like crap. Vin diesel stays winning in my book.
Someone as popular and famous as The Rock giving legitimacy to the "snowflake" bullshit has a bigger impact than you think.
I think he is right, but only to a point. There are definitely people out there who actively looking for a for reasons to be offended and upset and sometimes it ends with them making a mountain out of a molehill, but some things deserve to make someone upset. Some things NEED to be called out and addressed. It's not as simple as saying people are "snowflakes".
Also "snowflake" is like "SJW" at this point. It automatically makes you sound dumb.
Also "snowflake" is like "SJW" at this point. It automatically makes you sound dumb.
Yeah oh fuckinf well means I'm demising?
I said oh fucking well cause people will either move on or will still be talking about it( which they have the right to hence oh well) , if that's how you take the phrase that's on you even after I explained what I mean
He's not right at all. He bade a blanket statement about an entire generation, and used "snowflake" to do it. His statement hurts, it doesn't help.
I'm actually kind of proud of the liberal side of my generation for the most part, they don't just take shit on the chin anymore. Something we've done for too long.
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Is this a fact tho? Hate Kevin Hart all you want but I do recall him saying sorry.
He apologized for it on twitter and in person a few times, yet every time he opens his mouth, he contradicts literally everything in said statements.
So you tell me if that's an apology.
I get that and I think he is more wrong than right if that helps.
I dislike him using the word snowflake or blaming an entire generation , but I don't necessarily disagree with his point.
He's wrong because he made a blanket statement that says nothing in particular, yet uses alt right buzzwords as a dog whistle.
To assume that he is talking about specific, cherry picked instances that don't align with right wing talking points is ignorance.
If you accept "I'm sorry if I offended you" as an apology, then yeah he has.
If you read every other statement he's put out about it, how he doesn't tell those jokes anymore not because he realizes it's wrong, but because he knows he'll get in trouble for it, or that he wouldn't apologize because "it'll never be good enough for some people" (when the problem was it wasn't even close to a sincere apology in the first place), or that he argues he's the real victim in all of this, then no, he really hasn't apologized, or shown that he's learned and grown from this.
Which is entirely what that poster was trying to argue, and then dismissing those who weren't willing to accept that.
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