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Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson hits out at 'snowflake generation' for 'looking for a reason to be offended (Update: The Rock Says Interview Never Happened)
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Using the word "Sorry" imo means its an apology. Whether you thought it was an acceptable one or not is subjective. But to state he never committed the action of apologizing is objective and false since he did do that. If we want to be very specific with words, we should do the same when criticizing him.
Rock Responds: Interview Never Happened
I'm not assuming anything. He talks about some people looking for things to be offended about. And he is right. There are definitely people like that. But by not being more specific and using the stupid phrase "snowflake" he has inadvertently (I assume) made a statement that is gonna fuel the shittier people in the world. And that's where I disagree with it.
But that's just how I see it. I'm not asking anyone to agree with me.
Edit: Interview was fake apparently. All for nothing lol
So what do we call all the sudden Rock hate in this thread? What is that defined as?
The most effective lies and deceptions are told with a sprinkle of truth. Before warping and twisting to make traps for the lazy, embryonic and foolish who crave little more than the simple feeling of superiority. To believe they are better than someone else.
Taking outliers and holding them up as the common experience and using belittling terms to describe straw man grouping you've created is one such example, directly applicable here.
Welp, I guess it never happened, according to the man himself.
And you can twist "looking to be offended" into not accepting gender pronouns, getting upset at racist and bigoted jokes, etc.
The problem lies in the fact that we didn't have any examples to go off of and we were discussing a blanket, harmful statement.
Anyway, looks like this thread is now a dud anyway.
You don't need social media to be offended. You can get offended on the street or through a letter. Social media just spreads it faster but to claim it's exclusive to this generation is hilarious.
"People react negatively to a statement that, to their knowledge, is true" isn't actually ironic.
People can parse the difference between a "genuine" and "non-genuine" apology. Every one of Kevin Hart's statements shows he does not understand why he's apologizing. Every apology is also attached to a statement that essentially contradicts his own apology. Every statement eventually wrapping around to be about him and how he's the victim in all this.
So no, just saying "sorry" without any fucking meaning behind it is not an "apology". Go be pedantic somewhere else.
And in less than 24 hours not being true. What do we call that?
I mean, determining whether someone is genuine with thier words is literally an opinion. So are you arguing that thats not an opinion. Lol
Do you have any examples or are you just trying to antagonize others?
People being so fucking insistent on pointing their finger in the air with a "well, technically, he did apologize!", while not even addressing the actual issue of his past and present statements, is telling.
There is nothing sudden about Rock dislike. He's been socially disliked for some time by many for his comments in the recent past. "Hate" is not an accurate descriptor here. People hate Trump. People dislike The Rock.
This thread so far is a continuation of that dislike and frustration. If the interview never happened, people that dislike him will dislike him marginally less. That's all.
I mean this thread exposed a lot of people who buy into the "snowflake" culture who either A. can't provide any concrete examples and bail or B. provide examples that are clearly real issue that they want to be dismissive about, thus ironically making "themselves" the snowflakes.
So the thread had it's purpose at least.
No one is doing that tho. You're literally putting words in my mouth. But its contradictive to use the word "never" and "apology" when he did do that then at the sametime try to hold him accountable for words he choose to use.
Like boomers who get offended at the kids using pronouns "the wrong way" and people saying "happy holidays"
Nice to see the interview didn't actually happen.
He doesn't need to defend a certain shithead.
I don't really follow your logic. A report was presented, people reacted to a shitty thing he said by saying "That was a shitty thing to say," but then the report turned out to be fabricated and that's... ironic somehow?
It happens in every single Hart thread, so it absolutely happens. And you just did it.. "well, yes, he did apologize", ok, that's good to point out, yes he issued a statement apologizing, but it's equally important to recognize that his apology was bullshit. But you don't seem to care too much about that, for unknown reasons.
Why is that drive by shitposting? It is (up to this point) 16 pages of something an actor said! Who cares what he thinks about this generation? You disagree with him- great! Move on. But 16 pages because he used the term "snowflake" is kind of proving the Rock's point...
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What exactly is your point? Whether he responded today or next week until he said it was fake there is nothing for people to go on. The time frame is irrelevant.
Tell me more about me that I didnt discuss while you're being passive aggressive please
Some of you need to stop taking everything you read online so literally and jumping to conclusion. It's sickening how quick some of you want to dig up dirts on him already and paint him as a villain before he can even respond and defend himself. Where is the justice in any of this?
This is what I was originally responding to. You're dismissing the entire context of what Hart said and did because of the actual fact that he issued apologies.
Anyway, I take The Rock at his word here and it's too bad someone would use his name to forward their agenda. Glad he has clarified things.
Unless this alleged interview produces some audio tapes to prove Dwayne is lying, this one is a wrap.
Lesson: Verify the sources claiming they had an interview are reputable. The spread of fake news is how we got Trump. The Daily Star seems like it needs to be on a list with VGChartz.
Unless this alleged interview produces some audio tapes to prove Dwayne is lying, this one is a wrap.
Lesson: Verify the sources claiming they had an interview are reputable. The spread of fake news is how we got Trump. The Daily Star seems like it needs to be on a list with VGChartz.
Tell me, what post threshold does this thread need to stay under to prove/not prove his point. You seem to have a rough idea of how many, it would be good for future use.
No, im not dismissing the context. I am dismissing the statement "he never apologized." Thats a false statement.
Honestly I think his apology was terrible and he could have done it so many better ways. I think his ego is the problem with his applogy. But I cant say he "never" apologized
..and also dismissing all of the other context of him apologizing, yet contradicting and invalidating his apology.. simply because he apologized.
Which is exactly why we're talking about the literal fact of whether he issued an apology instead of him clearly not being sorry for what he said.
That's... not what happened here? People took a newspaper article at face value because there was no reason to think it had been fabricated.
Its contractive to hold someone accountable for their specific words and the fact they may have contradicted themselves, then in turn not hold your own words in criticizing them accountable when they aren't accurate.
Yes, but you're taking his apology as being good enough for people to be satisfied; "you can hate him all you want but" is using his literal apology to excuse his poor handling of the situation.
So you absolutely excused relevant context.
Just looked through the UK Daily Star website and it's little more than a common tabloid in as far as I can tell. 16 pages and none of us bothered to check the source. It's like posting a story from the National Enquirer and it sliding for a whole day unchecked.
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Well for one I think that people who popped in the thread before Rock's response (or just saw the title), also have chance to see the new updated title. Rather than the thread getting buried fast. If there's fake news spread, the correction shouldn't be ignored. This is something that sadly happens way too often. Bullshit claims stick even after when they've been established to be bullshit.
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I looked at the original article and thought it was shady as hell, looks like a high schooler wrote it. But had no reason to check and see if they would literally fabricate the entire thing.. usually people aren't that bold.
No im not. Thats you not understanding anything about what im saying. I never stated his apology was good enough. I said it was subjective on how you accept it. Thus why, you can hate him. But please. Continue to put words in my mouth to make something more of what Im saying. It aligns with this thread ironically.
Ah ok I see where your comprehension fails at... you do you. I have nothing more to contribute.
Yeah. I hope this thread is locked down. Just a full day of RestEra eating ResetEra alive. Nothing good came out of this.
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