If you accept "I'm sorry if I offended you" as an apology, then yeah he has.
If you read every other statement he's put out about it, how he doesn't tell those jokes anymore not because he realizes it's wrong, but because he knows he'll get in trouble for it, or that he wouldn't apologize because "it'll never be good enough for some people" (when the problem was it wasn't even close to a sincere apology in the first place), or that he argues he's the real victim in all of this, then no, he really hasn't apologized, or shown that he's learned and grown from this.
Which is entirely what that poster was trying to argue, and then dismissing those who weren't willing to accept that.
I'm not assuming anything. He talks about some people looking for things to be offended about. And he is right. There are definitely people like that. But by not being more specific and using the stupid phrase "snowflake" he has inadvertently (I assume) made a statement that is gonna fuel the shittier people in the world. And that's where I disagree with it.He's wrong because he made a blanket statement that says nothing in particular, yet uses alt right buzzwords as a dog whistle.
To assume that he is talking about specific, cherry picked instances that don't align with right wing talking points is ignorance.
The most effective lies and deceptions are told with a sprinkle of truth. Before warping and twisting to make traps for the lazy, embryonic and foolish who crave little more than the simple feeling of superiority. To believe they are better than someone else.
Welp, I guess it never happened, according to the man himself.I'm not assuming anything. He talks about some people looking for things to be offended about. And he is right. There are definitely people like that. But by not being more specific and using the stupid phrase "snowflake" he has inadvertently (I assume) made a statement that is gonna fuel the shittier people in the world. And that's where I disagree with it.
But that's just how I see it. I'm not asking anyone to agree with me.
Edit: Interview was fake apparently. All for nothing lol
You don't need social media to be offended. You can get offended on the street or through a letter. Social media just spreads it faster but to claim it's exclusive to this generation is hilarious.Well other generations didn't have social media to rage about any particular subject or person. It kinda is exclusive to this generation.
This thread has become super ironic with that update. OP you should put that Rock Response in the OP
Using the word "Sorry" imo means its an apology. Whether you thought it was an acceptable one or not is subjective. But to state he never committed the action of apologizing is objective and false since he did do that. If we want to be very specific with words, we should do the same when criticizing him.
"People react negatively to a statement that, to their knowledge, is true" isn't actually ironic.
People can parse the difference between a "genuine" and "non-genuine" apology. Every one of Kevin Hart's statements shows he does not understand why he's apologizing. Every apology is also attached to a statement that essentially contradicts his own apology. Every statement eventually wrapping around to be about him and how he's the victim in all this.
So no, just saying "sorry" without any fucking meaning behind it is not an "apology". Go be pedantic somewhere else.
People being so fucking insistent on pointing their finger in the air with a "well, technically, he did apologize!", while not even addressing the actual issue of his past and present statements, is telling.People can parse the difference between a "genuine" and "non-genuine" apology. Every one of Kevin Hart's statements shows he does not understand why he's apologizing. Every apology is also attached to a statement that essentially contradicts his own apology. Every statement eventually wrapping around to be about him and how he's the victim in all this.
So no, just saying "sorry" without any fucking meaning behind it is not an "apology". Go be pedantic somewhere else.
There is nothing sudden about Rock dislike. He's been socially disliked for some time by many for his comments in the recent past. "Hate" is not an accurate descriptor here. People hate Trump. People dislike The Rock.So what do we call all the sudden Rock hate in this thread? What is that defined as?
This thread has become super ironic with that update. OP you should put that Rock Response in the OP
People being so fucking insistent on pointing their finger in the air with a "well, technically, he did apologize!", while not even addressing the actual issue of his past and present statements, is telling.
Like boomers who get offended at the kids using pronouns "the wrong way" and people saying "happy holidays"hes right there are people who look for things to get offended by just to be offended
I mean this thread exposed a lot of people who buy into the "snowflake" culture who either A. can't provide any concrete examples and bail or B. provide examples that are clearly real issue that they want to be dismissive about, thus ironically making "themselves" the snowflakes.
So the thread had it's purpose at least.
And in less than 24 hours not being true. What do we call that?
It happens in every single Hart thread, so it absolutely happens. And you just did it.. "well, yes, he did apologize", ok, that's good to point out, yes he issued a statement apologizing, but it's equally important to recognize that his apology was bullshit. But you don't seem to care too much about that, for unknown reasons.No one is doing that tho. But its contradictive to use the word "never" and "apology" when he did do that then at the sametime try to hold him accountable for words he choose to use.
And in less than 24 hours not being true. What do we call that?
It happens in every single Hart thread, so it absolutely happens. And you just did it.. "well, yes, he did apologize", ok, that's good to point out, yes he issued a statement apologizing, but it's equally important to recognize that his apology was bullshit. But you don't seem to care too much about that, for unknown reasons.
Some of you need to stop taking everything you read online so literally and jumping to conclusion. It's sickening how quick some of you want to dig up dirts on him already and paint him as a villain before he can even respond and defend himself. Where is the justice in any of this?
Tell me more about me that I didnt discuss while you're being passive aggressive please
This is what I was originally responding to. You're dismissing the entire context of what Hart said and did because of the actual fact that he issued apologies.Is this a fact tho? Hate Kevin Hart all you want but I do recall him saying sorry.
Why is that drive by shitposting? It is (up to this point) 16 pages of something an actor said! Who cares what he thinks about this generation? You disagree with him- great! Move on. But 16 pages because he used the term "snowflake" is kind of proving the Rock's point...
This is what I was originally responding to. You're dismissing the entire context of what Hart said and did because of the actual fact that he issued apologies.
Acting rationally to stimuli is setting us back apparently.I don't really follow your logic. A report was presented, people reacted to a shitty thing he said by saying "That was a shitty thing to say," but then the report turned out to be fabricated and that's... ironic somehow?
..and also dismissing all of the other context of him apologizing, yet contradicting and invalidating his apology.. simply because he apologized.No, im not dismissing the context. I dismissing the statement "he never apologized." Thats a false statement.
Some of you need to stop taking everything you read online so literally and jumping to conclusion. It's sickening how quick some of you want to dig up dirts on him already and paint him as a villain before he can even respond and defend himself. Where is the justice in any of this?
..and also dismissing all of the other context of him apologizing, yet contradicting and invalidating his apology.. simply because he apologized.
Which is exactly why we're talking about the literal fact of whether he issued an apology instead of him clearly not being sorry for what he said.
Yes, but you're taking his apology as being good enough for people to be satisfied; "you can hate him all you want but" is using his literal apology to excuse his poor handling of the situation.Its contractive to hold someone accountable for their specific words and the fact they may have contradicted themselves, then in turn not hold your own words in criticizing them accountable when they aren't accurate.
Some of you need to stop taking everything you read online so literally and jumping to conclusion. It's sickening how quick some of you want to dig up dirts on him already and paint him as a villain before he can even respond and defend himself. Where is the justice in any of this?
Do you have any examples or are you just trying to antagonize others?
Just looked through the UK Daily Star website and it's little more than a common tabloid in as far as I can tell. 16 pages and none of us bothered to check the source. It's like posting a story from the National Enquirer and it sliding for a whole day unchecked.If this was fake news I'm not sure why this thread is still open.
Well for one I think that people who popped in the thread before Rock's response (or just saw the title), also have chance to see the new updated title. Rather than the thread getting buried fast. If there's fake news spread, the correction shouldn't be ignored. This is something that sadly happens way too often. Bullshit claims stick even after when they've been established to be bullshit.If this was fake news I'm not sure why this thread is still open.
I looked at the original article and thought it was shady as hell, looks like a high schooler wrote it. But had no reason to check and see if they would literally fabricate the entire thing.. usually people aren't that bold.Just looked through the UK Daily Star website and it's little more than a common tabloid in as far as I can tell. 16 pages and none of us bothered to check the source.
GG
Yes, but you're taking his apology as being good enough for people to be satisfied; "you can hate him all you want but" is using his literal apology to excuse his poor handling of the situation.
So you absolutely excused relevant context.
So what do we call all the sudden Rock hate in this thread? What is that defined as?
That's... not what happened here? People took a newspaper article at face value because there was no reason to think it had been fabricated.