Thank god, really hope the update is true. Not really a fan of Johnson personally, but he has a lot of reach and seems to generally be a nice guy. Really happy that he might not be a jackhole
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Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson hits out at 'snowflake generation' for 'looking for a reason to be offended (Update: The Rock Says Interview Never Happened)
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Agree with both of those things. The latest Ballers season was pretty political though. Which he stars in and is an executive producer of.
I think it's unfair to characterize anyone who shares the sentiment that people are being too quick to jump the gun as cosigning on the idea of "outrage culture"
Obviously, "outrage culture" is a dog whistle usually thrown out by alt right and general lowlife fuckheads to dismiss legitimate reactions to racism, sexism, sexual assault, and others forms bigotry. However, it's getting to the point where it's becoming hard to that people are reacting to every. single. thing that might appear to be an offense. And not just reacting to it, but with extreme emotion and anger. People leap to conclusions so easily and are quick to dismiss someone's existence with a mere "fuck off"
It's tiring and whether we like it or not, it hurts our cause and makes people tune out to legitimate things to be outraged about. I'm really starting to believe that more of these kind of stories will pop up to trigger premature outrage to hurt us even more. Creating even more division in our society. The alt right are weaponizing outrage and we're walking right into it.
We have to get a hold of ourselves. As a black man with a family of his own, I understand that we are all scared, anger, and tired of having to constantly defending our right to exist and be happy. But I feel like we are at a point where we are overcorrecting and it will undermine everything we're doing.
Posted a few IG posts about Tom Brady saying things he never said. It was from a parody sports account that you took as fact. Similar to this situation here.
I agree with all of this and especially the bolded. You can have the opinion that people are too quick to jump the gun while disagreeing with the concept of outrage culture.
I'm glad this was fake, because I always thought he came across as decent.
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I did? When was this? On Gaf? Cus if not that wasn't me, I don't remember doing that
Funny you do though
That's always been a mark against Kaep tbh... but Kaep at least takes meaningful stands on things and his not voting comes from a different place.
This is like when Morricone said Tarantino sucked, so an army of dudes piled on like YEAH I ALWAYS SAID HE SUCKED, only for that interview to be false. Got real quiet after that
I mean, that's not what's being said, what's being said is that for some who did respond negatively, it's not that one fake story that made them think poorly of the guy.
Because that was the accusation being thrown around
There's also this:
I posted an example in this very thread.
Then a month and so later when he was directly confronted by a reporter in regards to this, the Rock stated:
"Such a silly, clickbait post, Oliver," Johnson tweeted. "Im surprised you'd post this. Go back and really read my words. I listened and learned then. As I listen and learn now. C'mon man"
What's hilarious about the Rock's reply here, is that the original post of his never stated that line where he "listened and learned". He edited that in after the fact, and took out the parts about Rupert Murdoch being his friend, and that the Saudis were big fans of his.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....r-clash-over-old-saudi-prince-instagram-post/
I love how he tells him to look back and read his words, as if the world hadn't already seen the original version of the post and reported on it. Also, he has never respnded to questions in regards to the post beyond that one response.
So not saying something means you agree? What nonsense. Maybe people didn't want to contribute to something without having all the facts first?
This is a strange situation. It's very difficult to expect a publication to just wholesale make up an entire interview with a big celebrity. So we had progressives criticizing him and alt-righters agreeing with him. Both sides obviously jumped the gun and were proven misguided including myself but I can't think of another interview with a big celebrity being made up like this. This is a cautionary tale and will dictate how quotes like this are handled here in the future.
Some people are screaming how embarrassing this is for era but lets be real those people either didn't even see the thread until late and never got a chance to comment OR they were in the agree with him camp and were scared to weigh in. I don't for a second think that they were studious enough to doubt the quote and think it was fake and were waiting for confirmation lul.
Some people are screaming how embarrassing this is for era but lets be real those people either didn't even see the thread until late and never got a chance to comment OR they were in the agree with him camp and were scared to weigh in. I don't for a second think that they were studious enough to doubt the quote and think it was fake and were waiting for confirmation lul.
I was in the same boat but I don't feel the need to call people out for getting upset at someone like The Rock going full on baby boomer special snowflake mode.
Judgement and hate bandwagoning is a very common thing these days. It's fascinaing tbh, and kind of sad. I'm not a psychologist so for the most part I can't claim to have expertise on the 20+ year long documentary movie that is any adult's life in which they are a protagonist of enough to drive-by condemn them on a messageboard (or in real life). From what I gather a lot of the reactions to "famous person is accused of doing something bad" new stories seems to come from a short term urge of responding in a way that puts you on the right side of history (good vs bad) instead of taking the time and effort to apply more empathy and critical thinking to the situation when headlines like that pop up.
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I also have to say if the extent of anyone's reaction to this was a post on a message board... that's hardly a meaningful thing.
Like yay glad he didn't say it. It wasn't going to change my life if he had though, not like I was going to go out of my way to consume or not consume his work either way.
Like yay glad he didn't say it. It wasn't going to change my life if he had though, not like I was going to go out of my way to consume or not consume his work either way.
The combination of your avatar and that horrible pun made me laugh. I feel ashamed now... :(
Are you selectively choosing which posts you read and which you don't? Let me repeat it for you directly. Buddy made a post gushing about MBS and referring to Rupert Murdoch of all people as a good friend of his. When people rightfully questioned why the Rock would allow himself to be used as part of MBS' propaganda, he went and edited his post by adding things to it and removing parts of it as well. He then later replied to a reporter who brought up the original post, that the reporter was behaving in click bait journalism, and for the reporter to read what the Rock had actually wrote. Now keep in mind that the Rock has edited his post, and was telling the reporter lines that were never in the original post.
Yes, he's a shitty person.
Even if the interview didn't happen the context is right, everyone gets offended way too easily these days and are always looking to be offended for the littlest of things.
People need thicker skin
People need thicker skin
No, I read all the posts. I was just specifically talking about the people using "he didn't vote" as proof that he's a shtty person, as if somehow not voting is enough of a crime to make you a terrible person.
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Yup. The dog whistle worked. That's what's actually embarrassing about this thread. That so many cowards threw out a "he's right" and high tailed without risking a ban.
And hey, what do ya know, the ones who DID provide examples referred to calling out transphobia, sexual harassment and sexism, one of which got banned.
Amazing that the dog whistle worked so well, we got people agreeing with the article even after they've realized it's fake.
This is a fair point and I'll be sure to keep this in mind in the future.
Always wait a few days before casting judgment to gather the facts. Papa johns nigga thread was a good example from just last week
Reminds me of the thread about how a white woman was going to be hired as a curator of hip hop music, and then after several days of arguging found out she was just going to be one of the specialists or what not.
Why? Dont you want to feel that you are superior to some trash celeb because of the things they said?
Even if it turns out to be wrong you can always go by the "well even if it is wrong, it only proves my point further" route.
Ez post ez life.
It's fuckin sad, especially the last part
I asked multiple times for people to elaborate on their statements, because the original quote didn't just say "snowflake generation" it explicitly said that those people are the ones "pulling us backwards". So do the people just going "he's right" agree with that too? Are they gonna agree that the derned SJWs are the ones pulling us back - in the age of the Trump administration? Of course they didn't respond; they're not here for discussion they're here to shit on other people.
I also wanted to know how people were gauging "outrage" because it appears people here contextualize others' reactions wildly differently. So I asked at least twice, actually trying to foster a discussion relevant to the thread. There's a conversation to be had about reacting too strongly to things, although in the case of news it's often misrepresented and exaggerated to the point of fabrication. It's important, though, to qualify and quantify what exactly we mean and what other people were thinking when they were reacting against the alleged quote so everyone is on the same page and an actual discussion can be had. Of course nobody (whose posts I can see) cared about that. They're just here to shit on other people.
EDIT: There was an image in this post that used a disparaging term I did not notice when I linked it. 😕 Really sorry about that y'all
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Is this not how Trump won the elections? Spread fake news. Get people raged. Even if they know later it's fake news they will find something to justify their anger.
I've seen this on social media, it happens occasionally, someone coined it 'bandwagoning'
Which post has the link to the latest update? I don't want to dig through every page and figured the OP would have been updated but didn't see it there. Thanks in advance.
I mean, that's the entire point. People mark out for celebrity deaths and divided articles, only to be astounded by a new fast food item a week later.
We're in for dark, terrifying times if this is the way news will be presented to us.
For as much as I'd like for us to trust the media, shit like this is happening way too often now. And worst is, people in this thread are too busy taking potshots at one another even after realizing this shit is fake.
Wild times we live in.
For as much as I'd like for us to trust the media, shit like this is happening way too often now. And worst is, people in this thread are too busy taking potshots at one another even after realizing this shit is fake.
Wild times we live in.
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