Just a confirmation, if you've been paying ANY attention to PC Gamer in the last, uh, let's say six-8 months?
Just a confirmation, if you've been paying ANY attention to PC Gamer in the last, uh, let's say six-8 months?
Apt comparison, since it also keeps being unformed and disgusting.
Giving biased of coverage of something is not the same as getting checks, even though that is the only way people are able to interpret review scores (thanks, years of Famitsu threads?).And yet PCgamer has given pretty bad (or at most mediocre) reviews to pretty much every EGS game except for Metro Exodus (and I guess Anno, if that counts).
You'd think the checks would cover review scores above a 70 at least.
Heck I'm pretty sure they gave Operencia it's lowest score (and that game's pretty good).
Way to be reductive and disingenuous but ok.The way this thread has gone from page one shows us the exact opposite is true. EGS could meet feature parity with Steam tomorrow and the same 10 posters would still rain their performative disinterest on every thread with 'EGS' or 'Epic' in the title.
Excuse me, how my "pretends to be shocked" is a tantrum? Yeah, I expected Epic to sponsorship this show. It happened. Boo-fucking-yah. I'll still watch it and not buy anything on EGS. Is my position that offensive I can't post about it?These are the examples you asked for
Childish noises, unconstructive tantruming
If you go out of your way to ignore hundreds of posts in every EGS thread explaining in great detail the issues with it to make such an hyperbolic statement, maybe. Yes, there are people adding noise and nothing more that are against the EGS. As there are people in favor of EGS doing the same in this very thread, as I believe you saw when scoring for your quotes (fuck, see the damned implications that skepticism towards PCG coverage of EGS means we are gamergate). If you want to do a call out, then do it properly.It's a lot of people saying 'NO I DON'T LIKE IT' and bleating like wounded animals whenever their appalling behavior is called out for what it is.
Nome, please.The argument against exclusivity is the driving force behind anti-EGS sentiment.
Features and availability are separate and secondary.
Fronting like a game that is out first on EGS then steam 6-12 months later 'isn't really out it's just delayed' for the interval is exactly the sort of empty mouth sounds that the Form Letter posted in every single EGS thread interdicts. It's not a uniformly enforced rule at all but it's correctly identified as shitposting. So yes, you contibuted childish noise. Improve.
Ah yes, good to see you ignored everything else in both my posts. Take your own advice.Fronting like a game that is out first on EGS then steam 6-12 months later 'isn't really out it's just delayed' for the interval is exactly the sort of empty mouth sounds that the Form Letter posted in every single EGS thread interdicts. It's not a uniformly enforced rule at all but it's correctly identified as shitposting. So yes, you contibuted childish noise. Improve.
I enjoy hearing about your time there.They do not. Valve prefers to communicate through its actions, and directly with its users/customers, without engaging the press whenever possible. I have some cool anecdotes about my time there in this regard I probably can't share, but I assure you their philosophy is to communicate directly with who they serve and not use the press as middlemen whenever possible.
My time there actually majorly changed my views and opinions on the gaming press and its dynamic with the companies it covers.
Ah yes constantly introducing more dev and consumer facing features is >looking for ways to do less workYou know who charges 30% of all transactions on their digital platforms? Apple, Google, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Valve.
And every single one of them, except Valve, spend hundreds of millions of dollars promoting that platform. Meanwhile, Valve never stops looking for new ways to do less work maintaining their store.
you asked a question and I answered it.Ah yes, good to see you ignored everything else in both my posts. Take your own advice.
you asked a question and I answered it.
Don't ask questions if you're worried you won't like the answer.
There will be megatons.... lets hope at least one of them is good.
Thanks. I wish I could share more, but alas, my friends and ex co-workers work too hard to have me going around spewing stuff I shouldn't.I enjoy hearing about your time there.
I experienced a lot of "communication through action, not words" through my many years of Dota 2. Some appreciate it more than others. "Lack of communication" is cited very frequently as an issue some of the community has with the game. But we know the employees read the subreddits. And we know actual action takes time. But I guess everyone has limits to their patience and with no real pr branch some feel it's like talking to a brick wall.
Am I supposed to resent valve for not doing gobs (really not much at all to be more precise) of marketing and self promotion?
Ah yes constantly introducing more dev and consumer facing features is >looking for ways to do less work
*sigh*
Since it seems or all take two games are 6 month exclusive this wouldnt surprise me. I'm expecting it at this point.
No, but maybe you could recognize their inaction compared to others in the space and imagine a world where they cared as much.
This part is'Pretends to be shocked' is the tantrum, here? I'll take it under consideration.
Okay I got a good one.
Tell us what their action should be as opposed to your perceived inaction.
Happened to me as well.PC gamer just banned me (and several other people) from their comments section, so you better don't talk about this on their site.
Valve don't do advertising and they've been pretty upfront about not being interested in doing promotions like that.Here's an idea: sponsor an E3 showcase to promote upcoming games and raise the profile of their platform!
I want to see this just to see the rage, there will be so much of it Mephisto the Lord of Hatred will come back from the dead.
Ah yes Valve's moves are the only ones primarily in self interest. I forget companies all work on the concept of charity.Constantly? Their introduction of new consumer and dev facing features happen at a tiny fraction of the rate of any other player in the space charging a 30% revenue share. And many, many of Valves initiatives are primarily self-interested or strategic hedges. Even their VR support is embarrassingly anemic compared to the large number of third party games both Sony and Oculus have directly financed to keep the burgeoning market afloat.
They are likely there for Maneater, which they debuted last year at the show and was one of the first announced EGS games.
You're telling me people wouldn't be upset over EGS if it had feature parity with Steam and was available in as many regions with as many payment options?Nome, please.
Even if that is the case outside of ERA, nobody here is supporting that. Your line of reasoning is irrelevant.
Here's an idea: sponsor an E3 showcase to promote upcoming games and raise the profile of their platform!
This part is
'This just means five or so games have a 6-12 months delay. '
I don't believe that. People here are primarily railing against buying exclusivity.
I think its about how it all adds up rather than the individual pieces - no one would have to care about a feature incomplete store if they didnt have to use it. On the other hand using exclusivity to force people onto your store which sucks feature wise compared to its competitors just leaves a bad taste.You're telling me people wouldn't be upset over EGS if it had feature parity with Steam and was available in as many regions with as many payment options?
I don't believe that. People here are primarily railing against buying exclusivity.
You're telling me people wouldn't be upset over EGS if it had feature parity with Steam and was available in as many regions with as many payment options?
I don't believe that. People here are primarily railing against buying exclusivity.
Epic pays studios to be exclusive to their platform for 6-12 months, in practical terms, Epic pays developers and publishers to release on a platform that is objectively worse and less robust. There's zero advantages to effectively paying developers/studios to be on a platform that's worse and the only reason it happens is to make a quick buck. Between the EGS not having email verification of new accounts, and the laughable issues that these amateurs had on Android with Fortnite, it's obvious these chumps are thoroughly incapable of maintaining a platform/ecosystem much less a store. Email verification is full-stack development 101, like...
I'm unhappy that a company who's notorious for having a platform that's cheap, insecure garbage sponsoring a PC Gaming show.Seriously not trying to be rude, but what does any of that have to do with them sponsoring a livestream?
I mean, totally seriously, is anyone going to change their stance on EGS at this point?
It just seems to be that once a thread title mentions EGS then everything goes to shit as people rush to get their talking points in. And nobody talks about the actual games being highlighted.
:(
(I just really want to talk about Witchbrook)
Oh wasn't this that chucklefish magic academy game? If so man I was wondering where it went, hope it gets a release date this year plsAnyone else excited to see more from Witchbrook? I am hoping for a release date!
Oh wasn't this that chucklefish magic academy game? If so man I was wondering where it went, hope it gets a release date this year pls
one of my most anticipated games, straight up. I get the impression it's still a long way off tho: one of the devs was asking for feedback about some seemingly pretty fundamental aspects of the game on Twitter recently:Anyone else excited to see more from Witchbrook? I am hoping for a release date!
one of my most anticipated games, straight up. I get the impression it's still a long way off tho.
Yeah they've been pretty good with their streak of games so I have faith in their stuff, also huh I thought eastward already had a release date...Me too. There has been such an odd silence from the devs and publisher throughout the game's development. Makes me wonder if it will end up being a 2020 game.
(And that people regardless of platform/store get to have access to it) :)
That said chucklefish seems to be blowing up these days so they could have a lot of interesting stuff to show!
I think it might end up late 2020, tbh. That thing from one of the devs I edited into my original post kinda gave me the impression they still hadn't decided on how some fundamental aspects of the game were going to work exactly as of last month, which means there's probably still a lot of work to do.Yea. I am hoping for 2019, but I'd be happy with a new trailer and a first half of 2020 date. I really just want to see new info on it.