With estimates, it's literally that simple. It all goes down to who you trust because *no* estimate is really accurate.
I edited my post after searching the name I noticed I did read that. I didn't retain that name after reading the op though so when it was brought up to me again in a quote I had no idea who Zhuge was. I even make sure that I'm spelling it right here and the edit. First time I ever heard of the person.
This is something that was known though, right? US was a major Xbox 360 territory. PS3 was catching up in thanks to other territories.
Hence why people have been calling for more games beyond Halo, Gears and Forza otherwise they will never appeal to anyone outside the already established core audience. Hopefully those JRPG xbox rumours at e3 are true.
Then where did EA pull those figures from? You’d think they’d know more about their potential market on each system than an analyst. But maybe not. If not i’m just curious where there got the stats.
Believe it or not, Merriam Webster has been updated so that "literally" now has two meanings:
That's never helped their presence outside of the US and UK.
But the numbers don't add up as Zhuge explained. It's not a case of who to believe.
Merriam Webster can literally fuck off.
It's not the only problem here though.
Huh?
I Don't Know, But Not everyone Buy there game in the system !
We shouldn't trust a company that posts ~1bn$ income per year on knowing numbers? Maybe we should listen to you instead?
Thanks for clarifying. So it seems EAs estimates isn't taking into account certain factors? Or they are aren't calculating this same way we are?
1: NPD data is only related to the United States. We're talking worldwide numbers here.
ZHugeX is an actual analyst who works for an analysis firm, whose numbers correspond with the reality and picture we have from other sources, such as NPD's own numbers, far better than EA's do. Add to that that EA's projected numbers make no sense (27 million units sold between Xbox One and PS4 this year, but Sony projects 18 million for the entire financial year, so they expect Xbox One sales to, what, increase by magnitudes this year out of nowhere? Switch projections are all out of whack, unless the console severely underperforms, which so far it has shown no signs of doing in spite of a severe drought), and I am far more wont to suspect their numbers this time.
Pretty much. Next-gen the PS5/XB can be even in the US/UK but PS5 will still be ahead by a huge margin. It can't hurt to try but I honestly don't think there is anything MS can do about the brand's perception worldwide. A lot of people only want playstation/nintendo and the xbox doesn't exist.
It’s a bigger problem and if you keep missing out on what the competition has in terms of titles it becomes “platform has no games”.
I'm pretty confident that EA has plenty of "actual analysts" and "analysis firms" working for them.
I'm not saying they shouldn't get those games but they have never moved the needle of the brand outside of the US and UK.
Okay. That's fine. Between EA and folks that have access to NPD data I'm much more likely to believe the latter, so long as they are being honest. And I don't think we have any reason to doubt Zhuge.
I'm glad you are, but you responded to exactly nothing I said.
Because Sony releases numbers and Microsoft is a guessing game?
No worries. I'm not sure what the reason is for the discrepancy with EA's estimates.
Because the global sales of the PS4 are a known quantity, and Microsoft has done everything in its power to ensure that the global sales of the Xbox One are not.
NPD's estimates are also estimates. EA may not be directly in the business in estimating console sales, but they have plenty of people in that business working for them. Having semi-precise estimates is extremely important for their own business.
Those are no joke Mochi makers, you gotta have nerves of steel and a lotta trust to pull that off, damn.
I agree. It's basically a Pepsi vs. Coca-Cola situation. The negative effect of 2013 is/was overblown on Era/Gaf...as if the average consumers reads threads on message boards. It may have changed the outcome in US/UK, but going on it will always be a neck to neck race in those two territories.
You're correct. And it's likely that ea pays for npd data so it gets messy
Remember on GAF when people made posts like these and they ended up getting ultimatums to prove it to the mods?
Wow, you were not wrong. I like this piece from their explanation though which fits perfectly here on Era
I think that's actually a fair point.
And it’s been stated US numbers exceeded the proposed amount of Xbox One’s sold during that year in EA’s estimate.
NPD not accurate then either? If not then how have NPD + WW numbers always correlated closely to Sony numbers yet now we have a 15% difference in NPD + WW sales and EA's numbers
