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Earth Defense Force 5 is coming to PC via Steam on July 11th
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Will buy it immediately FOR THE CAUSE. EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF! EDF!
Yeah, this is SO bought. Stupid, stupid fun. Price is a bit high for sure, but after playing 4.1 so much I've been eagerly waiting for this.
Can you elaborate on this at all? At work and won't be able to play until late evening but it would be a bummer if you can't enable a high refresh rate.
Can you elaborate on this at all? At work and won't be able to play until late evening but it would be a bummer if you can't enable a high refresh rate.
Yes it also has pretty terrible micro stuttering for me in fullscreen mode.
Have you taken a peek in the ini? Any possible workarounds to turn off v-sync or anything like that.
Not really and i'm not even sure there is vsync since there is no option for it and i'm pretty sure i saw some tearing.
Finished the first 5 missions. I'm currently liking most of the changes to Wing Diver so far, particularly the dash which really helps in changing directions. I don't know how fond I am of some weapons doing less damage depending on how much charge you have left. The damage reduction gets pretty bad such that almost half of your charge is effectively useless, forcing you to reload pretty early. So far, though, I'm really enjoying some more cheesy, campy EDF! The dialogue has been, in my opinion, hilarious so far!
"If you don't fight, you will become their food."
"I hear reports that places all over the world are being attacked!" - "Aww, I was planning on travelling next month."
"If you don't fight, you will become their food."
"I hear reports that places all over the world are being attacked!" - "Aww, I was planning on travelling next month."
these games are only worthwhile to me if you can grab a trainer/cheat engine, give yourself infinite health/ammo and absolutely massacre shit.
i got a nuke-like weapon in 4.1, turned on rapid fire and infinite ammo and was able to make the framerate go around 5fps
i got a nuke-like weapon in 4.1, turned on rapid fire and infinite ammo and was able to make the framerate go around 5fps
I think the port is even worse with providing less video options. The stuttering/freezing whenever new UI elements pop-up is really bad.
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EDF5's Wing Diver and Fencer have more in common with character action games now than with most shooters.
This game has a lot of small nuances to the gameplay. Don't be fooled by the "stupid fun"-sticker - it's one of the most original shooters out there when it comes to the actual shooting.
Well, the damage fall off with wing diver is actually a pretty clever game mechanic, because you basically have to cancel your shots and instantly charge again. I've reassigned reload for WD to R3 so I can reload/cancel shots while flying/dodging/ charging shots.
EDF5's Wing Diver and Fencer have more in common with character action games now than with most shooters.
This game has a lot of small nuances to the gameplay. Don't be fooled by the "stupid fun"-sticker - it's one of the most original shooters out there when it comes to the actual shooting.
I mean, I didn't have a problem with the controls or performance in 4.1. They seemed perfectly fine. I'm not having any issues with 5 so far either.
I played 4.1 with a Core i5-4600K, GTX 1070, 8 GB RAM. I recently upgraded to a Core i9-9700K and 16 GB RAM and playing 5 on that (upgraded mostly for photo editing).
Someone figure out how to make the blood textures stay longer, want it to look like splatoon after a fight
I don't know if I should be happy that it's out or annoyed that it was basically a stealth release.
What was the problem with kb&m? I played the entirety of 4.1 that way and had no issues. In fact, I can't really see myself ever playing with a controller given the amount of quick aiming and long-distance sniper shots you typically do in those games.
Thanks for this post. I agree, and this is enough to warn me off of getting EDF5. Not being able to choose my own difficulty to ramp progression, and to challenge myself to difficult set-piece battles, is enough of a deterrent for me.
I really didn't intent that. It's a great game, I love the shit out of it and the series. There's just some things - that might seem bigger here, when we go into detail about them, than they're meant - which I preferred in the previous games, but most people wouldn't agree with me.
If you like EDF it's still absolutely unmissable.
I think it should be possible to hack the game to bypass that initial limitation. I've met several of players online on the PS4 version that had hacked the game (100% completion from the start, all weapons unlocked and maxed out, 1 million(!) health points), so i'd assume that it would be possible to change other values as well, like changing the value that tells you that you've already beaten the game on easy, normal or hard. Might be even easier on PC since thats an open platform. Personally, i have no hacking skills at all, but it might be something that someone could figure out :)
Otherwise, as i mentioned in a previous post, i think Sandlot should just let people choose their difficulty level from the start in future EDF titles. Maybe they could also bring back the "hidden" difficulty level that EDF 2 had (at least on Vita). I dont remember what its called (anyone remembers?), but its harder than Inferno.
There isn't more mandatory grinding than any other EDF. No, you can't choose Inferno from the get go, but that doesn't make a playthrough of Hard mandatory grinding.
Personally, I don't see how anyone can play through any EDF without any grinding whatsoever. Inferno is hard even with health farming. I can't imagine it being fun being constantly one-shotted.
To my surpise, it does actually seem possible to beat inferno without any health farming. Bede-x posted a few videos earlier where he/she beats missions like 107 (which is one of the hardest levels in the game) on inferno in split-screen with only two people. Its pretty amazing :) I also didnt think it was possible, especially levels like 107 and 110.
I do think that like 99.9% of all EDF players need to grind for extra health to be able to beat inferno however. Certaintly i need to do that hehe.
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I find it fun to do low-HP Inferno grinding. Any significant enemy can 1-shot you, and even the small chaff can kill you. Once you're pushing 2000+ HP, a lot of that tension goes away. Forcing a playthrough on Hard first dulls the experience, because now I'm aware of what spawns in every mission and I've got a decent HP buffer to boot.
I can't speak to EDF 5, but in 4.1 I was messing with Inferno clears by mission #40 or so in 2p Co-Op. It took focused builds and a plan, but it was extremely fun.
I can't speak to EDF 5, but in 4.1 I was messing with Inferno clears by mission #40 or so in 2p Co-Op. It took focused builds and a plan, but it was extremely fun.
After you beat easy, normal and hard in EDF5, its possible to start a new save file and start from scratch. Then you can go fresh into the game and start on inferno with 200 health and no weapon unlocks. This doesnt change what you say about knowning all the mission etc. though, but at least it allows you to play inferno from the start without any HP buffer :)
EDIT: Ment to tag Bede-x in my previous post, not this one.
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Considering we are talking about thousands of enemies in each level that sounds incredibly tiring.
The average unexperienced player won't be able to beat Hardest let alone Inferno with low HP.
Also: Hardest and Inferno spawn different enemy types on most missiosn and there are some slightly altered missions , so there are still surprises left after completing the lower difficulties.
For most low hp people the moment they meet gold ants for the first time will be followed by an instant "mission failed" screen.
Also: Hardest and Inferno spawn different enemy types on most missiosn and there are some slightly altered missions , so there are still surprises left after completing the lower difficulties.
For most low hp people the moment they meet gold ants for the first time will be followed by an instant "mission failed" screen.
After beating the game on easy or normal or hard with one of the classes
Idk maybe it was the way recoil works. Usually recoil on console and pc is different and I don't think they bothered to alter it for kbm so I feel like I'm struggling with my mouse.
Refuse to believe anyone who started on hardest or inferno in previous games wasn't just annoyingly carried in coop lol
I haven't played an EDF game on PC yet, but I honestly don't know how they could handle Fencer's laggy aiming with kb/m.
It would kill the balancing if his big weapons have the same weightless aiming like a Ranger rifle.
Fencer and Wing Diver also sound like a nightmare on kb to me. All the benefits from mouse-aiming are diminished by having to WASD + having to press and hold at least another key the whole time. It can be uncomfortable on controller as well when dashing with Fencer while holding a shield up and shooting after each dash, but with a kb?...nope, not for me.
Ah, I see. Fencer might be a problem. I haven't really played it, seemed a bit too technical for big dumb me :D. I'll tell you how that plays if I get around to giving it a shot. Which is much more likely in EDF 5 because of all the loot you pick up for other classes.
Never had any trouble with Ranger or even Wing Diver though. But then, 4.1 was my very first EDF, so kb&m is all I've ever known. It's the 'normal' control setting as far as I'm concerned. Plus I've never been all that bothered by digital/d-pad-like controls in 3D games in general.
Really hope 6 adds join in progress, always a process when one or two people leave where you wait for 5 minutes and finally start the mission only for people to then join. Then have to back out or they leave and so on. Just clunky.
Still fucking love the chat system and incredible amount of options. Need to remove the text limitation for custom messages tho.
Still fucking love the chat system and incredible amount of options. Need to remove the text limitation for custom messages tho.
Cheapest you can get it for is £31 from humble bundle if you have the sub or a friend who can give you their friend discount code as far as I'm aware.
So after playing EDF5 for awhile, I think I prefer 4.1 in terms of dialogue. I don't like the EDF5 songs either, they were more fun and catchy in 4.1
Other than that, the frogs are fun to shoot at. Can't wait to see what other new enemies they have.
Also found the class balancing pretty interesting. I wasn't expecting Ranger to be able to call in vehicles like Air Raider. I can't seem to do dash canceling with fencer, wonder if they removed it.
Other than that, the frogs are fun to shoot at. Can't wait to see what other new enemies they have.
Also found the class balancing pretty interesting. I wasn't expecting Ranger to be able to call in vehicles like Air Raider. I can't seem to do dash canceling with fencer, wonder if they removed it.
After 500 hours I finally started to like that song, but you're right, 4.1's is much much better.
With tons of what? I played the hell out of that game and I only saw creatures that look exactly like humans.
If you have a Stardust Cannon (medium range pulse) you should use it pretty much always. I like the Monster snipers rather than the beam or lightning snipers. There's also a level 15 (I think) plasma launcher that is insanely overpowered and is viable all the way to inferno.
WD feels awkward compared to 4.1, until you have the right weapons.
I've been using Destroyer Blaster 2 and Plasma Big Cannon M2. Dunno which mission drops Stardust Cannon.