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jondgc

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ben with a fantastic interview. I cannot believe Cyberpunk is a real videogame. My hype for this is off the charts.

 

Wiggy

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Oct 26, 2017
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I wonder how much money the Cyperpunk video has made them. 1mill views could be several thousand dollars if they have good CPM - or a couple hundred of they don't.
 

kamen_tater

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't think the money directly from youtube is what they really care about. It's probably more important to get "Easy Allies Patreon" broadcasted to as many people as possible
 

MrMette

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I wonder how much money the Cyperpunk video has made them. 1mill views could be several thousand dollars if they have good CPM - or a couple hundred of they don't.
A couple of years ago: sure. Nowadays after multiple adpocalypses: I would be very surprised.

It helps with name recognition, new youtube subscribers, new Twitch subs/followers, possible new patrons, which is great and which is for sure worth it.
But even though I am not a specialist at all, from what I have read over the last couple of years, I don't think the youtube money is worth it any more except if you have multiple millions of subs.

I hope I'm wrong though, they deserve it.
 
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jondgc

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Oct 25, 2017
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Speaking of Patreon, it's taken a bit of a hit with some sponsor slots opening up. But if they get filled, we could be approaching Full Playthrough Funday territory. All depends on how long the new Patrons stick around from E3...but it was a very nice gain IMO.
 

Dineren

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've been skipping Mysterious Monsters and that was apparently a mistake. Are the other episodes as good as this latest one?
 

Wiggy

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Oct 26, 2017
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A couple of years ago: sure. Nowadays after multiple adpocalypses: I would be very surprised.
Yeah like i say it could be thousands or just a few 100 - either way not life changing of course. It depends on a lot of factors (watch time, how advertiser friendly the content is etc). Some people still have ok CPM though i hear despite the adpocalypses.
 

MrMette

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I've been skipping Mysterious Monsters and that was apparently a mistake. Are the other episodes as good as this latest one?
I really liked all the episodes, but this one was probably the best (like a lot of people seem to think).
I personally think the others are certainly worth a watch though, but I have to admit that I like most content EZA produces including things like Tabletop and Fiasconauts and I know that this isn't the case for everybody. But I do think Mysterious Monsters is a well-conceived show.

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The theme song is stuck again in my head after watching it.
 
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Dineren

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not as good, imo, but it's just that this one is stellar.

The other ones are really enjoyable, though.
I really liked alle the episodes, but this one was probably the best (like a lot of people seem to think).
I personally think the others are certainly worth a watch though, but I have to admit that I like most content EZA produces including things like Tabletop and Fiasconauts and I know that this isn't the case for everybody.
Thanks, I'll check them out!
 

Wiibomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was checking th angryjoe interview he had with mike pondsmith, holy hell I wished ben could had that chance, I couldn't go beyong half that video.

Ben is really good at interviews, wished he had more chances for them.
 

Kneefoil

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Oct 25, 2017
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I too would love to see Kyle and Damiani finish A Way Out. I remember considering it a highlight of the whole stream. I doubt they'll ever continue the playthrough though.

Was the 2nd playthrough of The Quiet Man going to be an Easy Livin' or a separate thing?
 
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abrack

Unshakable Resolve
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Oct 25, 2017
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Not gonna lie, I'm actually a little annoyed about
them changing the FF7 remake date bet result from what they said in the video AND apparently told fireworksordie. You shouldn't change the result of the bet based on rewarding good vibes or ~dreamers~ rather than the side that actually won based on the terms of the bet...
 

y2kyle89

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I don't watch these betting special for dreams! I watch them for degenerate rules lawyering!
 

GeeseHoward

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Oct 25, 2017
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That final fantasy 7 ruling was utter bullshit, rules are rules, they went out of their way during the special to clarify that the concert DIDN'T belong to the conference.

Fuck off with that dreamers shit, rules are rules baby casinos ain't charity
 

abrack

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah "tie goes to the dreamer" is not a part of total degeneracy. And it wasn't a tie based on the established rules in the first video.
 

abrack

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't know how anyone could argue it was the correct decision when Damiani specifically asked and was told it wouldn't count before placing his bet. The man won $0 because they straight up lied to him! At worst they should consider it a push, everyone wins.
 

MrMette

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Oct 29, 2017
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I am somewhat salty and complained about it a lot on the betting specials thread, but the thing that annoys me is how it was decided and Huber's bs explanation.
Kyle specifically said in the betting special that the concert wouldn't count. And with Huber's excuse everything can be "announced" at any time in the future.

Just because some people didn't read a date online, doesn't mean it's not announced. That happens litterally with every announcement ever. So with his logic, nothing can ever be announced anymore.

I hope they don't do a "will x be announced" bet next year, because it will always be "no" because somebody didn't see that announcement, so it's not announced for them.
This thing somewhat killed the whole betting special for me this year. I will for sure participate again next year, but I really hope they don't do "will x be announced" bets anymore as they are moot now. I would have been fine losing this bet as I knew I was lucky with the ruling, but it was specifically said by Kyle in the betting special, so that makes it hard to swallow for me.

Btw:
Nothing but respect for fireworksordie for creating the website, this thing doesn't change the fact that I love the whole idea of the website.
 
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Oct 27, 2017
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Pretty sure Kyle changed the FF7 bet to make this result show more 'interesting'. He loves it when people are angry over silly stuff like this.
 

abrack

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Oct 25, 2017
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The feeling I get is that Huber plead his case and Kyle didn't really fight back because it didn't change the winner of the EZA bet (though it may have put Brad slightly ahead of Kyle). But I think when you have 7k+ people playing along with you, you can't be quite so loosey-goosey with the rules.

I do think based on the original wording of the bet alone, there is a real argument to be made either way. If they said it counted from the get go, I wouldn't have cared. But once you told Damiani and ShockorScoff at two different times it was going to go one way, you need a very solid reason to reverse it. "People may not have paid attention to the concert!" and "Tie goes to the dreamer!" are not good enough arguments (or good arguments at all), to me.

Also it doesn't sound like it went to the council, like they said disputed bets would? Unless everyone who didn't bet on it voted on it but they chose not to mention that.

I can totally understand. It really pisses me of for some reason and I'm not sure why. I'm usually not a sore loser, so I don't think that's the full extend. I just can't stand losing in what I feel is an unfair way.
I get it. I didn't bet any Don Bucks on it so it didn't hurt my score at all. It was just an immediate "That Ain't Right!" feeling. You just need a better reason to overturn a previously stated rule, imo.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Possibly, but I honestly think Huber just convinced him. I didn't have the sense that Kyle was 100% ok with the ruling.
Thats why i believe Kyle changed his reasoning on purpose, just for the salt and outrage. I've seen too much of his streams now to believe that he did this on purpose lol. This will generate more comments, tweets, etc. lol.
 

MrMette

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Oct 29, 2017
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The feeling I get is that Huber plead his case and Kyle didn't really fight back because it didn't change the winner of the EZA bet (though it may have put Brad slightly ahead of Kyle). But I think when you have 7k+ people playing along with you, you can't be quite so loosey-goosey with the rules.

I do think based on the original wording of the bet alone, there is a real argument to be made either way. If they said it counted from the get go, I wouldn't have cared. But once you told Damiani and ShockorScoff at two different times it was going to go one way, you need a very solid reason to reverse it. "People may not have paid attention to the concert!" and "Tie goes to the dreamer!" are not good enough arguments, to me.

Also it doesn't sound like it went to the council, like they said disputed bets would? Unless everyone who didn't bet on it voted on it but they chose not to mention that.
Those excuses just make it impossible to ever do a "will x be announced" bet ever again as there is always somebody who doesn't pay attention to something, so nothing can ever be announced anymore, also, as long as people believe, something is always announced, so everything is always announced and not announced at the same time! It's the perfect reasoning by Huber. Well thought through and certainly not just spun out of his Huber mind (which I usually find fantastic).

I don't agree with the idea that something can be announced 2 times, but I probably would be ok with it if nothing about the concert was said during the betting special, but this excuse + the 180 is just ridiculous.

I hope they didn't kill betting specials.
 
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