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Edge's big feature on Nagoshi's career: Monkey Ball, F-Zero GX > 1.5M WW, Yakuza origins and future

Oct 25, 2017
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Uh.. I would reject the game too were I in charge back then, not knowing how the series would turn out today.

The way I see it, some Money Ball guy was trying to compete with GTA with some Japanese movie subgenre
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Tokyo
Already own all games on PS3/PS4, so I don't wanna consider this port begging, but man, I'd be way more invested in all the side-quests and minigames if Yakuza games were released on Switch.
 
Dec 21, 2017
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User Warned: System Wars
sony has always been the test platform where big series get thier first start then microsoft and nintendo cry about the game not being on thier system.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Not sure why Microsoft would reject it considering they let anything come to their consoles. Nintendo however, is very weird sometimes so I can understand them.
 
We know the sales numbers for GX he provides are either flat out wrong or skew so heavily to cheaper sales that the game still underperformed for Nintendo.
I completely agree that Nintendo still should make another one, but it must be produced cheaper and probably by an outside team since the market is probably still less than 1million people at a price of $40.
 
Nov 2, 2017
10,471
I don’t understand why a platform holder wouldn’t want a game on their platform as long as there is nothing breaking the rules about it, nice jab from him though lol.
 

Kain

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
942
Not everything is happiness and rainbows, there was a time when the Yakuza brand was all but dead in the West. Luckily people eventually saw the light, because the games themselves have always been great. Even Dead Souls, yes.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yakuza would have been some very niche title if not for the internet finally delivering on the YouTube, the gifs, and the memes. It's a hard series to sell, I thought for a long time it was GTA ripoff
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,162
Maybe they should indeed release it elsewhere. Unless they want to stick to sub 1 million sales every time. Yakuza 0 released on Steam and sold rather well despite being nearly 2 years late.
To me, this shows that demand isn't being met on just the Sony platforms, which makes sense, because not all gamers only game on Sony platforms. I am interested in Yakuza 0, and I'll probably grab it eventually on Steam, but I'd buy it much faster if I could take the game on the go with me, I just have no interest in spending $500+ on a GPD Win 2.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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As for the new systems comment, I wonder if he means a more radical change in mechanics presentation to attract and interest new players without intimidating them.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Was it pitched as an exclusive of multi-plat though? if it was I could understand both MS and Nintendo not jumping in at that time.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I hope it comes to everyone, it's such a great series, with some of the absolute best characters ever.

Though they are in kind of a bad spot, as the Yakuza games are very much not something you can just blast through back-back without major burn out and there's really no other way to catch those two platforms up without offering a collection at some point.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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To me, this shows that demand isn't being met on just the Sony platforms, which makes sense, because not all gamers only game on Sony platforms. I am interested in Yakuza 0, and I'll probably grab it eventually on Steam, but I'd buy it much faster if I could take the game on the go with me, I just have no interest in spending $500+ on a GPD Win 2.
The fact they're even talking about this now kinda seems like talks are going on so hopefully, the next major game in the franchise should be coming to every platform.
 

Mivey

Banned
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,164
It's such an addictive game (Yakuza 0), pretty much all I have been playing the last two weeks. The side activities and substories are so good. I'm just mad I'm not better at some of them, will probably have to skip the dancing related substories. No chance I can score higher than 2000 on any of them. lol

I really hope this gets a larger audience, and they keep making them forever.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,867
It'd be great if players on every platform could have the chance to play the Yakuza series. It's amazing that it's on PC these days and I hope it drops on even more platforms.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Hasn't F-Zero GX often been claimed to have been a sales flop? It selling over a million sure as hell says otherwise!
Wait, F-Zero GX sold 1.5m? Is this new info? I've always heard the game bombed.
Seriously, every time it’s been brought up on the forums in the past people say with near absolute certainty that it was a major failure. This article says not only that it sold well, but also that it really impressed Nintendo.

Dammit. I want a new one
 
Oct 25, 2017
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sony has always been the test platform where big series get thier first start then microsoft and nintendo cry about the game not being on thier system.
You're ignoring the fact that Nagoshi had to actually fight Sony as well over Yakuza. The Yakuza series was an uphill battle to be made and he had to fight ethics regulations to get it made.
 
Oct 26, 2017
7,834
To me, this shows that demand isn't being met on just the Sony platforms, which makes sense, because not all gamers only game on Sony platforms. I am interested in Yakuza 0, and I'll probably grab it eventually on Steam, but I'd buy it much faster if I could take the game on the go with me, I just have no interest in spending $500+ on a GPD Win 2.
It's more the series is declining in Japan and blowing up elsewhere, especially after 0 and with growth comes more platforms.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Now look at them begging lol. Stick with PlayStation + PC Sega.
sony has always been the test platform where big series get thier first start then microsoft and nintendo cry about the game not being on thier system.
Jesus, look at this corporate flag, fanboy bullshit here. I've purchased every Yakuza game to date that has been released in the west, so you may say I'm a fan, but I'd just buy them all again if they were rereleased on Xbox One X or PC. PC, fortunately, seems like it's going to happen, but why in the hell wouldn't you want it on as many platforms as possible? Just childish console war nonsense.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's more the series is declining in Japan and blowing up elsewhere, especially after 0 and with growth comes more platforms.
PS4 is a very successful console 'else where', heck it's decline in japan could actually be partly due to PS4 selling poorly there. It regularly sells less than 20k units, finding it's way to more markets is key to the long term success of the series IMO, especially with a new console generation looming and PS5 not being a guaranteed success in Japan.
 
Oct 26, 2017
7,834
PS4 is a very successful console 'else where', heck it's decline in japan could actually be partly due to PS4 selling poorly there. It regularly sells less than 20k units, finding it's way to more markets is key to the long term success of the series IMO, especially with a new console generation looming and PS5 not being a guaranteed success in Japan.
I know the PS4 is, probably why the series is blowing up elsewhere and I think is bigger than ever, despite declining/stagnating in Japan, which would have been a death sentence for the series a few games ago.
I assume a big reason it's now on and more are coming to PC is because of the growing popularity in other parts of Asia, where PC is a lot more dominant for example.

I doubt there's much growth to be had with Switch (new engine games, Yakuza 6 onward, won't run on it) or Xbox, but I also doubt there's any damage to be caused at all either, so more Yakuza for everyone please.
 
Jul 24, 2018
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If I'm not mistaken, of all the big 3 publishers, Sony is the only one who accept Yakuza game.

The concept, the ideas, the story, the game-play, etc.

So that's why with all the Yakuza games on PS until now.
The first game had no addtional funding from Sony, it was all Sega, a gamble from Nagoshi on a tight budget which is why the first game doesn't have as much as content as its sequels. It paid off though. The video posted above goes into detail on it.
 

TheMoon

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Oct 25, 2017
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how come these sales were never listed in Nintendo's sales reports? was this game counted for SEGA instead?
Nintendo only lists million sellers on their chart. And only then when they achieve those 1 million within the same fiscal year they were released in. That's why stuff like Fire Emblem Awakening or the Wii U version of DKC Tropical Freeze never appeared on there despite them being known to sell above a million. The slow rollout (July for JP, August for NA, October for EU) probably contributed to the game not moving that million units until the end of the FY in March.

SEGA didn't publish this so there's no reason to attribute the sales to them.
 
Jan 9, 2018
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I'm actually really shocked at the F-Zero sales. I always thought it was a sales disaster. Are we 100% sure this is what he said? No mis-translation or something? Is Nagoshi himself sure of the 1.5 million?

Either way, 1.5 is deserved for such an awesome game. Now someone needs to convince Miyamoto they should just make a sequel with added online. I don't care if it's a 1 on 1 copy with only online being new.


The Yakuza bit is kinda expected. Nogashi needed to do a lot to convince people around him to go ahead with the series, even his own bosses. I could understand Nintendo not wanting this back then, but I'd expected it to be on Xbox at least. I just hope they change it now and release everything on all platforms.

And give me Super Monkey Ball Sega. Now.