• iOS/Safari issues when launching the site from mobile home screens should now be fixed! A2HS button compatibility on Android Firefox has also been fixed! Add some purple to your home screen today.

Eiichiro Oda talks about 'One Piece' ending

Nov 19, 2017
738
#61
I'm on episode 50ish. So if I have 2 years to catch up....730 days.....about 1827492 episodes left to watch....I don't think I'm gonna make it in time.
Only watch up to Marineford (500 ish) then switch to the manga. Early on, the OP anime delivered about 2 chapters per episode. Now, they get through 7-8 pages of a chapter per episode. Absolutely abysmal.

EDIT:

Look at Dressrosa, lol:



In an ideal world it should be around 50 episodes
 
Last edited:
Oct 25, 2017
6,013
#63
Holy moly. Any clue why it slowed down so much? Did they catch up with manga or something?
Yes. They've had this issue since about ep 260. Around 290 is probably the worst, thought current anime is pretty close.

The issue is that there is an episode of the anime practically every week, while oda needs rest sometimes so there's not always a manga chapter every week. Plus you really need at least 1.5 manga chapters per episode. They try to compensate with filler arcs and padding out episodes, but it doesn't work well a lot of the time.
 
Aug 22, 2018
420
#64
Yeah! I don't know where you stopped, but it takes a small dip in quality around the middle for a little bit before picking up again. So don't get too discouraged if you don't like right where you jump back in lol
Yeah, but no work of fiction is perfect. I'm sure OP's dip in quality is still solid to decent.
 
Nov 19, 2017
738
#65
Holy moly. Any clue why it slowed down so much? Did they catch up with manga or something?
They get too close to the manga so they have to stretch out the episodes as much as they can. Here is an accurate representation of what you can expect from current One Piece anime:
Yes. They've had this issue since about ep 260. Around 290 is probably the worst, thought current anime is pretty close.

The issue is that there is an episode on the anime practically every week, while oda needs rest sometimes. Plus you really need at least 1.5 manga chapters per episode. They try to compensate with filler arcs and padding out episodes, but it doesn't work well a lot of the time.
The anime was pretty much 1 episode per chapter until after marineford
 
Oct 25, 2017
10,849
#66
Yes. They've had this issue since about ep 260. Around 290 is probably the worst, thought current anime is pretty close.

The issue is that there is an episode of the anime practically every week, while oda needs rest sometimes so there's not always a manga chapter every week. Plus you really need at least 1.5 manga chapters per episode. They try to compensate with filler arcs and padding out episodes, but it doesn't work well a lot of the time.
1.5?
They need to make 3 chapters into one episode
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,283
#69
You'll all still got another 10 years.

I'm still going with the final chapter being Luffy getting old and being executed the same way Roger did, ushering in another golden age.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,033
#70
They get too close to the manga so they have to stretch out the episodes as much as they can. Here is an accurate representation of what you can expect from current One Piece anime:
The anime was pretty much 1 episode per chapter until after marineford
Only thing missing in that video are your constant flashbacks
Flashback of two episodes ago.
 
Oct 29, 2017
161
#71
I guess he has the perk of having the most successful manga of all time to be granted the ability to write how he wants the story to progress.

He has a very good world structure and things pay off years later. Most mangas are written very short sided.

Most artists don't have the ability to do how they envision. The publishing house has a lot of say about the general plot.

I remember a toriyama interview, in which he stated that he wrote from chapter to chapter and his editor had a lot of swaying power. This was the reason why we had basically three villains during the cell arc.
 

ZealousD

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,280
#73
Many Manga readers seem to be under the impression that authors "wing it" when it comes to writing their stories and are often impressed when authors do simple things like foreshadowing or show any sort of sign that their story has been planned in advance.
Toriyama didn't even have Android 17 and 18 in mind when he began the Android/Cell arc, nevermind Cell.
 
Dec 15, 2018
266
#74
Likely one of the more reassuring things about One Piece is that Oda always mentions that hes had the ending in mind for a long time now. Some people could easily say some of the massive arcs nowadays are stalling for time but I believe Oda sees everything as a valuable part when it comes to expanding the world.
 
Nov 2, 2017
3,882
#76
Many Manga readers seem to be under the impression that authors "wing it" when it comes to writing their stories and are often impressed when authors do simple things like foreshadowing or show any sort of sign that their story has been planned in advance.

That's the thing though, you can still wing it, and know the ending. The emotional highs are usually the first things that come to you when writing a story. The journey is the really hard part about writing a story.
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,977
#80
One piece is a devil fruit that gives you control over all other devil fruit users. Piece....of fruit. Luffy finds it but decides to destroy it instead of consuming it like the bad guy would

I actually haven't read one piece yet, just the first 3 chapters
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,155
#81
Is it true that MAJOR SPOILERS
Luffy and a lot of the main cast is currently dead?

I heard that for a friend and it kinda turned me off from actually reading the manga.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,303
#83
Is it true that MAJOR SPOILERS
Luffy and a lot of the main cast is currently dead?

I heard that for a friend and it kinda turned me off from actually reading the manga.
lol your friend is messing with you. And no, it's not a spoiler. The Strawhats are very alive.

The manga does feel like it's setting up pieces for the end, but it's definitely a ways out. I think even 5 years is a bit generous with how much they still need to address really.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,531
#88
They get too close to the manga so they have to stretch out the episodes as much as they can. Here is an accurate representation of what you can expect from current One Piece anime:
The anime was pretty much 1 episode per chapter until after marineford
There's also the issue of Oda taking a regular break about once every four weeks for the past few years after he got hospitalized one time, so that messes with the anime's pacing even more. This could theoretically be solved with seasonal breaks or even filler arcs, but neither seems likely to happen anytime soon
 
Oct 26, 2017
2,574
#89
These articles always baffle me. Like, why do they act like "knowing the ending in advance" is special, when it's literally one of the very first things us writers actually think about?
because battle shonens can inch forward one arc at a time. power creep is a hell of a drug.

Is it true that MAJOR SPOILERS
Luffy and a lot of the main cast is currently dead?

I heard that for a friend and it kinda turned me off from actually reading the manga.

their boat sank in the last chapter of an arc. it was just a melodramatic fakeout and they reunited lots of people almost immediately.there have been a couple permanent deaths across the run of the manga but no they didn't actually murder everyone in chapter 800
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,719
#92
That's the thing though, you can still wing it, and know the ending. The emotional highs are usually the first things that come to you when writing a story. The journey is the really hard part about writing a story.
Right, at a minimum as an author you have an "outline" of your story in regards to where it's going, even if it's just from having to pitch your story to a publisher to get published. Of course authors in manga "change" things, as ZealousD gave an example of here...

Toriyama didn't even have Android 17 and 18 in mind when he began the Android/Cell arc, nevermind Cell.
...whether it be from editor suggestions/etc... But the way some manga fans get impressed simply by things like introducing a character that was hinted at in previous books/comics in a series, it comes off as readers thinking authors don't plan anything at all/every story is written chapter to chapter and an author that does any form of planning is "amazing".
 
Nov 2, 2017
3,882
#99
because battle shonens can inch forward one arc at a time. power creep is a hell of a drug.




their boat sank in the last chapter of an arc. it was just a melodramatic fakeout and they reunited lots of people almost immediately.there have been a couple permanent deaths across the run of the manga but no they didn't actually murder everyone in chapter 800
The power levels mean nothing to where Oda wants to take the story though. "The One Piece is this, and Luffy finds it when he's old after a long journey and is, himself, a Pirate King" is an Ending that really doesn't need anything else behind it, other than him knowing the goal of his MC's journey.

Obviously things change along the way and the stuff gets more detailed, but that's not at all exclusive to what I've been saying.
 
Oct 25, 2017
297
No, I don't think they have ever meet.

Mangaka wise Oda is close too:
Kishimoto (Naruto), Toriyama (Dragon Ball) and Inoue (Slam Dunk, Vagabond)

There are others but these are the three he seemingly closest too.
Ah, add Miura and Togashi and you have the GOATS.
Maybe not Kishimoto though

I'm of the camp that we're still about 5+ years out. There's still so much more to cover, and then you factor in the monthly breaks plus Jump holidays, there's no way it wraps up in ~80 chapters. I expect another 250 chapters at a minimum to send it off at Oda's standard.